Why the hatred for Autoflower strains?

Mason Jar 92705

Mason Jar 92705

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HighLowGrow said:
Autos suck period. They flower too fast and take up too much space. They are fluffy as hell and taste like chems. Did I mention that they attract mites. In most cases they tip over from being too heavy. Damn autos........


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Autos suck....Too bad people don't give em a shot. They are missing out bbbiiiigggttttiimmmmeee.
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fuckin' eh. bro! Flush those auto flowers down the toilet where they belong, for fuck's sake! I still can't believe people fall for this shit, boggles my mind!
 
Sir72

Sir72

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Flash super autos were pretty dam dank and got 5-6 feet tall, only problem was not all of the fem seeds gave me females which was lame
 
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EverythingsHazy

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Corso312 said:
I toss some outside the last couple summers.. Unfortunately they are prone to bud rot with the extreme heat n humidity in summer here..this year I'm gona try more shaded area or shade cloth.
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Can't blame the plant if those are the conditions it's tossed into. Odds are photos would rot as well, and possibly even more, due to taking longer to finish which equals more time in the hot humidity.

A lot of auto hate is due to grower error or inexperience.
 
Corso312

Corso312

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EverythingsHazy said:
Can't blame the plant if those are the conditions it's tossed into. Odds are photos would rot as well, and possibly even more, due to taking longer to finish which equals more time in the hot humidity.

A lot of auto hate is due to grower error or inexperience.
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That's the thing though.. The one thing I need-want them for is a bumper crop in summer before the big fall harvest. I wouldn't waste indoor space on them, photos are far superior.. I have seen some strains recently started advertising bud rot-mold resistance in their write ups.. Those are the ones I'll order this spring. I don't even care about yield..quality only, I'd rather have 14 gram plants of very good smoke than 5 ounce plants that smokes like regs. I don't care if its 65 days or 100 days either.

I like how simple they are to grow, just FFOF and a few handful if worm castings and 1 or 2 feedings of jacks classic does em great..until the rot moves in.
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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billytimmy said:
Help me out here bro

I just finished a cure on some auto ak and I am stoned as fuck after smoking a tiny bud

what did I do wrong?
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I'm not a believer yet either, but I like your post because I have an Auto AK freebie sitting here. Perhaps I'll run some autos again someday, the freebies are starting to pile up.
 
Corso312

Corso312

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billytimmy said:
Help me out here bro

I just finished a cure on some auto ak and I am stoned as fuck after smoking a tiny bud

what did I do wrong?
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Was it grown outdoors? I'm only interested in outdoor auto's.. And before ya say I never smoked autos blah blah blah.. I got a Buddy who only grows autos in his closet n raves about for 4 years now.. I've smoked all his " great bud" n wasn't impressed.. His auto mazar was the only bud I'd consider above average.
 
billytimmy

billytimmy

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Michael Huntherz said:
I'm not a believer yet either, but I like your post because I have an Auto AK freebie sitting here. Perhaps I'll run some autos again someday, the freebies are starting to pile up.
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there is nothing to believe, they are fun to grow and smoke. and finish really quick most of the time, end of story.

auto ak was like 50 days to harvest or something for me

if you are obsessed with yields or having the most top quality strains possible then auto's are maybe not for you, np
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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Corso312 said:
Was it grown outdoors? I'm only interested in outdoor auto's.. And before ya say I never smoked autos blah blah blah.. I got a Buddy who only grows autos in his closet n raves about for 4 years now.. I've smoked all his " great bud" n wasn't impressed.. His auto mazar was the only bud I'd consider above average.
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I have grown a handful of autos in freebies and was never impressed by the quality or the yield.They same some of the improved and newer strains are totally different. The ruderalis has to affect the THC negatively.
 
billytimmy

billytimmy

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hotrodharley said:
I have grown a handful of autos in freebies and was never impressed by the quality or the yield.They same some of the improved and newer strains are totally different. The ruderalis has to affect the THC negatively.
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some people like cars others like trucks, each has pluses and minuses but both get you there
 
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St1kybudz

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poplars said:
they have their place, but they're useless to the majority of growers worth their shit.

you can't clone them, they're not ideal to keep around for yeild (outdoors they are crap for yeilds.) when you're speaking from a medical standpoint, 6 plants per person, atleast in cali, you want every plant to count.... one plant being an autoflowering that would only get like 3 feet tall MAX.... is not worth it in this situation...

not saying they can't be dank, they just don't have nearly as much potential as normal strains.
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The best thing about AUTOs I can figure is that it would take much to keep a fellow busy harvesting all year, with regular photo plants you can get 1 early harvest and 1 late harvest. Now if you grow photo plants and auto plants we get a harvest every month after the cycle gets started and that's outdoor and can only be done if u use autos
 
WolfieLee

WolfieLee

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hotrodharley said:
I have grown a handful of autos in freebies and was never impressed by the quality or the yield.They same some of the improved and newer strains are totally different. The ruderalis has to affect the THC negatively.
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This seems to keep coming up in the never ending debate, and I look at it this way... there have been MANY years, even decades of breeding involved in producing HIGH potency plants in the PHOTO realm. If you can breed to improve the levels in photo's it should not be that hard to do the same in the AUTO realm, imo...
Look at it this way...somewhere, sometime somebody decided they wanted a plant that would not require the lights to be changed, or wanted a fast (pre-PHOTO) harvest outside, and decided to breed the TRAIT of ruderalis(spelling?) finishing within a LIFE CYCLE independent of LIGHT CYCLE. Did the ruderalis affect the THC? Most def. But they also know they can, and ARE in fact breeding out this UNWANTED trait of the ruderalis... And imo, they are doing a HELL of a job of it, and I feel also, a BETTER job of it given the relatively short amount of time they have had to do it...and it can only continue to improve...
Can the most potent photo strain beat out the most potent strain of auto in existence at this time? Most likely, probably certainly, YES...but that doen't have to mean that someday it WON'T...
I have smoke many auto stains, and even grew some of my own, and I was very impressed with them...they got me BAKED as hell. On the flip side I have smoked a LOT of mediocre photo period bud, and autos too, it all just boils down to preferences and finding what YOU prefer to GROW and SMOKE...that process has NOT changed at all...If you tried auto's and failed, it MAY be that is because you were used to growing photos, and there are MANY differences in the techniques of growing Photos and Autos to their potential...I would guess the failures stemmed from, yes, inferior autos, but ALSO, it can't be denied that many case where just those trying to grow them too much like photos, which does NOT lead to a GREAT auto being raised to it FULL potential...
 
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St1kybudz

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WolfieLee said:
This seems to keep coming up in the never ending debate, and I look at it this way... there have been MANY years, even decades of breeding involved in producing HIGH potency plants in the PHOTO realm. If you can breed to improve the levels in photo's it should not be that hard to do the same in the AUTO realm, imo...
Look at it this way...somewhere, sometime somebody decided they wanted a plant that would not require the lights to be changed, or wanted a fast (pre-PHOTO) harvest outside, and decided to breed the TRAIT of ruderalis(spelling?) finishing within a LIFE CYCLE independent of LIGHT CYCLE. Did the ruderalis affect the THC? Most def. But they also know they can, and ARE in fact breeding out this UNWANTED trait of the ruderalis... And imo, they are doing a HELL of a job of it, and I feel also, a BETTER job of it given the relatively short amount of time they have had to do it...and it can only continue to improve...
Can the most potent photo strain beat out the most potent strain of auto in existence at this time? Most likely, probably certainly, YES...but that doen't have to mean that someday it WON'T...
I have smoke many auto stains, and even grew some of my own, and I was very impressed with them...they got me BAKED as hell. On the flip side I have smoked a LOT of mediocre photo period bud, and autos too, it all just boils down to preferences and finding what YOU prefer to GROW and SMOKE...that process has NOT changed at all...If you tried auto's and failed, it MAY be that is because you were used to growing photos, and there are MANY differences in the techniques of growing Photos and Autos to their potential...I would guess the failures stemmed from, yes, inferior autos, but ALSO, it can't be denied that many case where just those trying to grow them too much like photos, which does NOT lead to a GREAT auto being raised to it FULL potential...
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Okay brother man imma try and break it down good and simple for you while keeping it short and sweet it is very difficult to keep an auto in veg if nearly impossible without hormone treatment so there for it is out of the question to take clones and do several test crosses to determine if the plant is homozygous or heterozygous there or making it much more difficult to stabilize an auto strain it is not impossible but if you ask me it's like hitting the loto to ibl an auto you would have to mysticaly get a male and a female with homozygous Dom or recessive for all the traits you desire further more you can not do a back cross with the original parents making the proccess of stablisation even more difficult
 
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