umm.. best light distance from center of bulb to foliage?

JD_85

JD_85

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Kush Killington said:
Its a great start thou. Vert is kinda awkward at first. The thing i struggle with most is training. Since i dont take clones (limitation reasons) all my plants are a lil diff so its hard to train everything evenly. Itll all come wit time thou

Sir KK
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i only did this vert because i had no room in da bud room and i dont have enough power yet to set up another 2k. i feel comfortable with 1.4k and this was the only way i could think of. plus im so strapped for time so im only watering and feeding this vert.
i would like to get familiar with a small 400w cage before i go all in.
im also in the process of trying to get down to 1 plant per 1k... so much easier!!! ive gone from 64count to 32count to 6count stayed at 6 for a while then the last 2 or 3 grows have been 4count.
then i over vegged the last 4count, so i stuffed two in a 5x8 and stuck two in makeshift vert bud room
thank you guys and galls for all the help. ive got a whole lot of reading to do.
here is a quick pic of the horizontal room... 2k two 818 headbands
 

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ttystikk

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Kush Killington said:
How is w/ft^2 calculated in a circular set up? watts/surface area comes out to a loow number. But then again i guess the parameters for a vert grow are diff for a horizontal. 50w/ft^2 flat = ?w/ft^2 vert

Sir KK
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Sorry I didn't see this until now. The plain and simple truth is that vertical canopy surface area is the same as any other, only it's tipped up ninety degrees. Your surface area calculation should be circumference times height. If mine always seemed eyebrow raisingly low, that's because they were.
 
NebulousPLM

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legallyflying said:
We go 16" from bulb to cage but you can NOT let them grow through the cage. Max yield at that distance although some varietis don't like the light that close...
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Found this online in reference to vertical growing... At 12 inches do you find that it's too hot?
 
NebulousPLM

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ttystikk said:
Twelve inches with a thouie is definitely too hot, at least without a cooltube.

Sixteen to twenty is much better.
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I'm stoked to start vert.
Should be going starting Dec 1... I'm thinking 18 inch radius circle around the bulb.. Then an octagon of trellis around them.
 
Craig1969SS

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I use 600's without a cage and get mine 10" away from the bulb. You give up a lot of intensity for every inch you move away. My room temp gets no higher than 72 though with 2 bare 600's and a 600 in a hood vented in the 10x11' bedroom. I use 20" box fans under the lights
 
NebulousPLM

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Craig1969SS said:
I use 600's without a cage and get mine 10" away from the bulb. You give up a lot of intensity for every inch you move away. My room temp gets no higher than 72 though with 2 bare 600's and a 600 in a hood vented in the 10x11' bedroom. I use 20" box fans under the lights
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Ya, those fans really knock heat off the 600 bulb. There's about a 1 inch gap between my bulb and fan, and I can literally put my hand underneath the bulb and it won't burn. I can touch the bottom, still won't burn. Now the sides... That's another story. Plus the bare bulb has helped supplement heat so my heater works smarter not harder !

I keep my girls about 12in from the bulb.
 
JD_85

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Thanks to all who have helped with my first vert. The yields were so sick I had to do it again! I think my veg room is now my new vert room!
I added a hexagon screen this time, and is working better.
Got 4 in there now. Three r in super soil and 1 in coco. The coco isn't tied down at all,
If I remember they are lemon garlic og in
 
JD_85

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Lemon garlic in coco and ghost train haze #1, g,s,cookies. And the keeper of 818 headband In super soil
 
medicalMonster

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My two cents and nothing else - take with a grain of salt -

Their is no height. It doesn't exist. Sir Jonathan at 10,000 feet growing in 20 degrees vs Mr ham growing at -150 below sea and +28. Distance means squat.

You need most important to read your plants. Period. That's it.
Second, if in doubt, IR temp gauge. Must have. 75-80 canopy MAX for most strains.

Good luck. I don't mean to offend anyone. I just write super fast and I come across as a dick but i mean no harm. PCE :peace:
 
Craig1969SS

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medicalMonster said:
My two cents and nothing else - take with a grain of salt -

Their is no height. It doesn't exist. Sir Jonathan at 10,000 feet growing in 20 degrees vs Mr ham growing at -150 below sea and +28. Distance means squat.

You need most important to read your plants. Period. That's it.
Second, if in doubt, IR temp gauge. Must have. 75-80 canopy MAX for most strains.

Good luck. I don't mean to offend anyone. I just write super fast and I come across as a dick but i mean no harm. PCE :peace:
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IR temp gauge? Is that like a temp gun or a digital thermometer. Yes reading your plants is primary. You're kind of behind the 8 ball if you don't have a feel for that.
 
NebulousPLM

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If you get an indoor/outdoor thermometer, you can hang the cord right at your canopy. That's what I do.
So when I press the 'in/out' button I can change from my overall room temp/hum, to my canopy temp/hum
 
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