EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Wow, delusional
Listed according you your delusions
1)Benghazi was a disaster and Hillary has been clearly implicated in multiple felonies if you actually read any of the material currently being declassified. No, she hasn't been charged or implicated in any felonies. Congress -- the partisan Republican one we have today embarrassed itself last year in a squalid session that ended up wasting everybody's time. That's all you have. Go away.

2)Trump isn't a Muslim bigot, He most certainly is. Read what he said in the last debate. He said he was surprised at all the fit young men and no women present represented in the refugees coming from Syria. First off that's untrue. Second, the implication is clear -- in this lie, he's basically saying they are mole terrorists. This is not the first time he's said this either. Read between the lines, dude. This guy is a complete asshole bigot.

Furthermore, why would a terrorist go through the hardship of coming here as a refugee when he could simple enter on a tourist visa?

3) That Muslim terrorist crap you said is just that and bigoted to boot. ISIS has 10,000 fighters. If the US had to, they'd be nothing but grease spots. For political reasons, the US is holding back. There is no good reason to invade that part of the world. Get out of here. The crimes that are committed there are done by ISIS. Its on them, not the US and we can only make things worse by putting US boots on the ground. ISIS is contained, funds are starting to dry up and they will suffocate. Give it time. This represents good leadership coming from Obama.

4) Ron Paul is a fringe libertarian with nothing to offer. The only reason he's still around is because the wealthy oligarchs that control a massive part of the wealth of this country like the idea of completely unregulated markets. Hooboy that would be putting the rich pigs onto their feed. The end point of free or shall we say, unregulated, markets is monopoly and that's just fine with the Richie Riches of this country. Not for me. No way, no how.

The assumptions that you make in 4) are spurious. (I chose not to address 1-3 )

One major aspect of a free market is competition proliferates or at least is allowed to. A truly free market would mean the removal of government enhanced barriers to entry in a given market.

In a regulated market like the one in the USA, people are PREVENTED from engaging in commerce, which REDUCES competition....which is a component of a forcible monopoly.

In all seriousness, you have no understanding of what a free market is or means. I challenge you to back up what you've stated and explain how a free market causes a monopoly.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I'm shocked at the shit the Chump gets away with saying. Amy NORMAL, SANE candidate for office wouldn't be going around alienating while voting blocs in a single breath.

Clearly, he's not running for president. He's just running to be THE CHUMP. Stay at his chintzy overpriced hotels!
 

schuylaar

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I'm shocked at the shit the Chump gets away with saying. Amy NORMAL, SANE candidate for office wouldn't be going around alienating while voting blocs in a single breath.

Clearly, he's not running for president. He's just running to be THE CHUMP. Stay at his chintzy overpriced hotels!
Are you aware that he sued bill maher for $5M for calling his father a chimp?:lol:

Trump is representative of every racist old white man in this country and although there are many..there are not enough.

Of course he'll be more than happy to tell you how he ripped off the Chinese in a RE deal then wouldn't let them use their own property..yeah! that's it..great foreign policy..typical old white fucker.
 

Queece

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How is it racist to say that our boarder is a problem? The heroine problem is killing Americans every day and it's being made in clandestine labs in Mexico and the Middle-east. We know this. Half the problem is over-prescribing pharmas and we can all wag our finger at those dinosaur companies, the other half is our porous border allowing dangerous dirty shit with fenanyl in it into the country. Don't you dare tell me otherwise, 1/10 kids from my graduating class are fucking dead right now, cold in the ground because of dirty Mexican H.

If you are in any way shocked by what Trump says, I will tell you that you are not making that value judgement for yourself. The media is trying to character assassinate the dude given any opportunity, meanwhile Hillary and Bill are known to be international criminals and completely ineligible to run and you hear nothing that condemning. Two-tier justice at its finest. You are just buying the spin.

"Well, we tortured some FOLKS" -the guy Bernie endorses

Hey, John Stewart is a paid-shill by Viacom Executives to provide an impotent controlled opposition to the status-quo. All those John Oliver types are clearly on Murdoch's payola, don't trust what they say. They are not genuine or liberal. John Steward continuously supported Obama despite his role in atrocities committed by his army of toy planes, and cheerleaded for Obama-care despite that "public option" vanishing near the roll-out. You know the one that would have made it kind of sane, this whole strong-arm robbery thing, because the marginal players would set the price and there would be real discovery in the insurance market. Yeap, humanitarian Obama figured he'd let those same beasts that forced parents into bankruptcy to pay for their kid's chemo put a gun to your head every April. Bernie supports this.

Trump isn't a racist, you heard that on the news and the news tells only lies.

He's been saying the same thing his whole campaign, and people obviously agree, looking at his numbers. You want another liar? Hillary or Bernie. The truth for a change: Trump. It isn't always the easiest thing to hear, but yes, Islam is a problem. Sorry, you can't have your imperialist bronze-aged ideology that treats women like second-class citizens stampeding across Europe. Remember the Ottoman Empire? Muslims are for damn sure no secret doves. Decades of bloody conflict to eject them from Spain and the rest of Europe because they were savage.

Sounds bad? What just happened in Cologne? Xenophobia hurts, I know, but so does having your daughter gang-raped by some illiterate peasants that have been told their whole life that they are allowed to do that because she is kaffir. Something needs to be done to prevent physical acts of violence against women, and nothing is being done because everyone's afraid to be labeled a "racist hate-monger" by the co-opted left.

Teflon Don hasn't given them an inch. He's so popular right now because he's saying what is resonating with sane Americans that are aware of how dishonest the world has become. The establishment "left" will keep lying and bombing and smiling and making memes from the oval office to pollute your report with them. It's psychodrama, they keep bombing but they'll only show "puppy kisses for Obama" on the news as the ticker reads the body count.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
How is it racist to say that our boarder is a problem? The heroine problem is killing Americans every day and it's being made in clandestine labs in Mexico and the Middle-east. We know this. Half the problem is over-prescribing pharmas and we can all wag our finger at those dinosaur companies, the other half is our porous border allowing dangerous dirty shit with fenanyl in it into the country. Don't you dare tell me otherwise, 1/10 kids from my graduating class are fucking dead right now, cold in the ground because of dirty Mexican H.

If you are in any way shocked by what Trump says, I will tell you that you are not making that value judgement for yourself. The media is trying to character assassinate the dude given any opportunity, meanwhile Hillary and Bill are known to be international criminals and completely ineligible to run and you hear nothing that condemning. Two-tier justice at its finest. You are just buying the spin.

"Well, we tortured some FOLKS" -the guy Bernie endorses

Hey, John Stewart is a paid-shill by Viacom Executives to provide an impotent controlled opposition to the status-quo. All those John Oliver types are clearly on Murdoch's payola, don't trust what they say. They are not genuine or liberal. John Steward continuously supported Obama despite his role in atrocities committed by his army of toy planes, and cheerleaded for Obama-care despite that "public option" vanishing near the roll-out. You know the one that would have made it kind of sane, this whole strong-arm robbery thing, because the marginal players would set the price and there would be real discovery in the insurance market. Yeap, humanitarian Obama figured he'd let those same beasts that forced parents into bankruptcy to pay for their kid's chemo put a gun to your head every April. Bernie supports this.

Trump isn't a racist, you heard that on the news and the news tells only lies.

He's been saying the same thing his whole campaign, and people obviously agree, looking at his numbers. You want another liar? Hillary or Bernie. The truth for a change: Trump. It isn't always the easiest thing to hear, but yes, Islam is a problem. Sorry, you can't have your imperialist bronze-aged ideology that treats women like second-class citizens stampeding across Europe. Remember the Ottoman Empire? Muslims are for damn sure no secret doves. Decades of bloody conflict to eject them from Spain and the rest of Europe because they were savage.

Sounds bad? What just happened in Cologne? Xenophobia hurts, I know, but so does having your daughter gang-raped by some illiterate peasants that have been told their whole life that they are allowed to do that because she is kaffir. Something needs to be done to prevent physical acts of violence against women, and nothing is being done because everyone's afraid to be labeled a "racist hate-monger" by the co-opted left.

Teflon Don hasn't given them an inch. He's so popular right now because he's saying what is resonating with sane Americans that are aware of how dishonest the world has become. The establishment "left" will keep lying and bombing and smiling and making memes from the oval office to pollute your report with them. It's psychodrama, they keep bombing but they'll only show "puppy kisses for Obama" on the news as the ticker reads the body count.
:fire:

This space reserved for response to Mr. Queef once my B-grade horror movie ends..
 

Fogdog

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Okay, is that why Hillary is on suicide watch right now?:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/01/15/donald-trump-takes-big-step-to-make-sure-iowans-know-the-truth-about-what-happened-in-benghazi-3/

Regarding the FBI's take:
"The former federal law enforcement official said the finding in the January IG letter represents a potential violation of USC 18 Section 793, “gross negligence” in the handling of secure information under the Espionage Act."

Really. Why were we in Libya in the first place, let alone Benghazi? Oh wait, the memo that I posted (hosted by .gov) that detailed the reasons why Hillary, as Secretary of State, colluded with the French government to depose Gadaffi to stop him from proliferating a gold-backed Dinar. It's all right there, don't take my word for it. Pure colonialism at work.

Donald Trump gave the correct figures, most of the refugees are young men, but they are not Syrian men in the case of Germany and France, who have been attacked by terrorists. "Mole terrorists". They immigrated as refugees, but then oops, they were terrorists. Also well reported by both sides of the isle.

I don't condone violence in any way, whatsoever in any circumstance, nor do I support war. I was merely making the case that if there ever were a "just war", which some regard WWII due to the atrocities being committed by the Germans, a war to liberate Saudi Arabia from the extremely repressive regime that currently holds public hangings for crimes including "Grand-theft Auto" and "Sorcery" (real, look it up), could be made.

The problem with ISIS is that their obviously being sponsored by someone, and we keep ongoing material aid programs to "moderate rebels" and ISIS keep getting new guns and toys. Doesn't take a genius. And we let banks like HSBC launder money for them, even though they keep getting caught. It's in plain sight, you need ISIS to close that contract for new useless $800million jets. Obama is a military industrial complex wind-up toy that they painted black to throw liberals off his scent, and will continue to kill civilians in Yemen and Pakistan with predator drones until he leaves office. He sponsors terrorism and is himself, a terrorist. Full stop.

Come on man? Old Uncle Ron? Seems like a nice enough guy, I think his heart is in the right place at least.
Regarding Ron Paul, since he's your uncle, I'll leave your family out of this.

Regarding Syrian refugee demographics: The demographics of Syrian refugees applying to relocate to the US is about 67% women and children under 11 years (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/). About 25% are men 18 and older.

When Trump said most of the refugees are young men he is basically saying that Syrian refugees are mole-terrorists and he's lying. This is obvious fear mongering on Trump's part. It plays well with bigots and racists.

You said: "ISIS ... obviously being sponsored by someone". Here is a source I consider credible: http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/11/20/draining-isis-coffers/sophisticated-finances-that-could-trip-up-isis

As with most propaganda, your statement is half-right. ISIS was being sponsored by a lot of someones. That's drying up as stated in the NY Times article

Obama is doing exactly the right thing by not boosting US troops in that area. Also by not trying to enforce some sort of US dominated no fly zone. The only solution to the ISIS threat is a local one. Containment and attrition of ISIS by the coalition help make a local solution possible.

As for the "righteous war" stuff. Recommend you smoke a blunt and watch a war movie. Its less harmful than what Bush Jr did in Iraq when he launched his righteous war. Turned out to be more complicated than that. Same goes with, I laugh when I say this, a war on Saudi Arabia to liberate its people as you suggest.

Getting back to the original post, Sanders is not a war hawk but not a pacifist either. When he takes office, I think that the Obama administration will be handing off a global situation in better shape than he received and putting it into the right hands for the future.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Regarding Ron Paul, since he's your uncle, I'll leave your family out of this.

Regarding Syrian refugee demographics: The demographics of Syrian refugees applying to relocate to the US is about 67% women and children under 11 years (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/). About 25% are men 18 and older.

When Trump said most of the refugees are young men he is basically saying that Syrian refugees are mole-terrorists and he's lying. This is obvious fear mongering on Trump's part. It plays well with bigots and racists.

You said: "ISIS ... obviously being sponsored by someone". Here is a source I consider credible: http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/11/20/draining-isis-coffers/sophisticated-finances-that-could-trip-up-isis

As with most propaganda, your statement is half-right. ISIS was being sponsored by a lot of someones. That's drying up as stated in the NY Times article

Obama is doing exactly the right thing by not boosting US troops in that area. Also by not trying to enforce some sort of US dominated no fly zone. The only solution to the ISIS threat is a local one. Containment and attrition of ISIS by the coalition help make a local solution possible.

As for the "righteous war" stuff. Recommend you smoke a blunt and watch a war movie. Its less harmful than what Bush Jr did in Iraq when he launched his righteous war. Turned out to be more complicated than that. Same goes with, I laugh when I say this, a war on Saudi Arabia to liberate its people as you suggest.

Getting back to the original post, Sanders is not a war hawk but not a pacifist either. When he takes office, I think that the Obama administration will be handing off a global situation in better shape than he received and putting it into the right hands for the future.

It sounds like you think the USA should be in charge of the "global situation".
 

Queece

Well-Known Member
Regarding Ron Paul, since he's your uncle, I'll leave your family out of this.

Regarding Syrian refugee demographics: The demographics of Syrian refugees applying to relocate to the US is about 67% women and children under 11 years (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/). About 25% are men 18 and older.

When Trump said most of the refugees are young men he is basically saying that Syrian refugees are mole-terrorists and he's lying. This is obvious fear mongering on Trump's part. It plays well with bigots and racists.

You said: "ISIS ... obviously being sponsored by someone". Here is a source I consider credible: http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/11/20/draining-isis-coffers/sophisticated-finances-that-could-trip-up-isis

As with most propaganda, your statement is half-right. ISIS was being sponsored by a lot of someones. That's drying up as stated in the NY Times article

Obama is doing exactly the right thing by not boosting US troops in that area. Also by not trying to enforce some sort of US dominated no fly zone. The only solution to the ISIS threat is a local one. Containment and attrition of ISIS by the coalition help make a local solution possible.

As for the "righteous war" stuff. Recommend you smoke a blunt and watch a war movie. Its less harmful than what Bush Jr did in Iraq when he launched his righteous war. Turned out to be more complicated than that. Same goes with, I laugh when I say this, a war on Saudi Arabia to liberate its people as you suggest.

Getting back to the original post, Sanders is not a war hawk but not a pacifist either. When he takes office, I think that the Obama administration will be handing off a global situation in better shape than he received and putting it into the right hands for the future.
Dude, you are out of your damn mind. Quote some article from a well-known mouthpiece for neo-liberalism like the New York Times.

http://testtube.com/testtubenews/is-turkey-buying-isis-oil/

More perspective. If ISIS funds are drying up, Turkey would have to stop buying their oil. Which we know (Russian intelligence and satellite photos that I will provide per request) they are still doing right this very minute, and that's ISIS being sponsored by a NATO ally without getting into support for "moderate rebels".

Trump said that about the make-up of EUROPEAN migrants, the ones causing all the problems over there right now. I know the US created the crisis, but that doesn't give anyone the right to rape innocent women and shoot up music venues and measures must be taken against such a thing to prevent further wrongdoing.

Obama is doing exactly the wrong thing by air-striking the Assad government after lying about chemical weapons and ridiculous claims about the shape of the bombs his military uses. Also well reported. He's arming militants that are in fact mercenaries. Putin elaborated recently to the affect of : "they are mercenaries, they are moderate rebels until they reach an ISIS controlled oil field where they are paid better." This is the international consensus. The fact that Obama is even in Syria after making such erroneous claims about the Assad Government using chemical weapons (yellow cake and ties to Al Qaeda, remember?) baffles me. Obama is every bit as bad as both Bushes and Clinton and foreign policy and worse on domestic issues. Bank bailout, huh? Twice? No management bonuses for five years? Bonuses anyway, Holder's "Too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-jail"? Are there paid shills on RIU?

Heres some more fringe sources:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/europe/syria-turkey-russia-warplane-tensions/index.html
http://testtube.com/testtubenews/is-turkey-buying-isis-oil/
http://nsnbc.me/2014/09/06/fool-twice-eus-turkeys-lies-buying-oil-isis/

Here's the latest episode of the Keiser Report that mentions the new declassified Hillary memo:
https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/329404-episode-max-keiser-864/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/16/gowdy-blumenthal-not-author-benghazi-memos-to-clinton0.html
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
I'm shocked at the shit the Chump gets away with saying. Amy NORMAL, SANE candidate for office wouldn't be going around alienating while voting blocs in a single breath.

Clearly, he's not running for president. He's just running to be THE CHUMP. Stay at his chintzy overpriced hotels!
I'll credit him for being a genius at attracting free publicity. Republicans have announced their willingness to blow up our government to get what they want. Trump is taking it one step further, he's willing to blow up the Republican party to get what he wants.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Dude, you are out of your damn mind. Quote some article from a well-known mouthpiece for neo-liberalism like the New York Times.

http://testtube.com/testtubenews/is-turkey-buying-isis-oil/

More perspective. If ISIS funds are drying up, Turkey would have to stop buying their oil. Which we know (Russian intelligence and satellite photos that I will provide per request) they are still doing right this very minute, and that's ISIS being sponsored by a NATO ally without getting into support for "moderate rebels".

Trump said that about the make-up of EUROPEAN migrants, the ones causing all the problems over there right now. I know the US created the crisis, but that doesn't give anyone the right to rape innocent women and shoot up music venues and measures must be taken against such a thing to prevent further wrongdoing.

Obama is doing exactly the wrong thing by air-striking the Assad government after lying about chemical weapons and ridiculous claims about the shape of the bombs his military uses. Also well reported. He's arming militants that are in fact mercenaries. Putin elaborated recently to the affect of : "they are mercenaries, they are moderate rebels until they reach an ISIS controlled oil field where they are paid better." This is the international consensus. The fact that Obama is even in Syria after making such erroneous claims about the Assad Government using chemical weapons (yellow cake and ties to Al Qaeda, remember?) baffles me. Obama is every bit as bad as both Bushes and Clinton and foreign policy and worse on domestic issues. Bank bailout, huh? Twice? No management bonuses for five years? Bonuses anyway, Holder's "Too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-jail"? Are there paid shills on RIU?

Heres some more fringe sources:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/europe/syria-turkey-russia-warplane-tensions/index.html
http://testtube.com/testtubenews/is-turkey-buying-isis-oil/
http://nsnbc.me/2014/09/06/fool-twice-eus-turkeys-lies-buying-oil-isis/

Here's the latest episode of the Keiser Report that mentions the new declassified Hillary memo:
https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/329404-episode-max-keiser-864/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/16/gowdy-blumenthal-not-author-benghazi-memos-to-clinton0.html
Too funny. Your post was too long and I'm not going to read all of it. I think calling the NY Times "a well-known mouthpiece for neo-liberalism" is absolutely ridiculous and comical. That, along with your suggestion we make war on Saudi Arabia to "liberate its people" is all I need to know about you.
 

MuyLocoNC

Well-Known Member
Too funny. Your post was too long and I'm not going to read all of it. I think calling the NY Times "a well-known mouthpiece for neo-liberalism" is absolutely ridiculous and comical. That, along with your suggestion we make war on Saudi Arabia to "liberate its people" is all I need to know about you.
You're right, a "cesspool of liberal douchebags" is a much more accurate description of the ny times. Wanna know what their readers should be called?
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Are you aware that he sued bill maher for $5M for calling his father a chimp?:lol:

Trump is representative of every racist old white man in this country and although there are many..there are not enough.

Of course he'll be more than happy to tell you how he ripped off the Chinese in a RE deal then wouldn't let them use their own property..yeah! that's it..great foreign policy..typical old white fucker.
yeah but if Bernie does not win the DEM nod you are willing to allow him to be your POTUS. How dumb is that.
 
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