When to add Organic fertilizers?

crippledguy

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Hey guys im new to this site i usually post up on Tokecity but anywho ill get to the point. So i planted acouple purple kush x purple romulan orical seed at the beginning of june in some Foxfarm ocean forest. they get enough sun and water but i have not added any fertilizers yet. they are just entering the pre flowering stage and i am curious when and what i should add? should i stick to the organic foxfarm tiger bloom, big bloom or is there any other organic ferts you guys perfer? and how much should i add and how often? this would help alot guys, thanks crippledguy!
 

Londoner

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wait until your plant tells you its hungry, your soil is pre-ferted with tons of nutes already, when your plants look pale or you start getting a little yellowing of lower leaves then start your weak feeding schedule, i dont personally know about fox farm nutes theyre not available here, i use bio bizz 100% certified organic range and always start at half the lowest stated dose on the bottle and work my way up to 1/2-3/4 stated dose and use that as my maximum. there are lots of other organic alternatives you could try, from what i can understand fox farm nutes arent 100% organic
 

crippledguy

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thanks londoner. yea i mean the foxfarm ocean forest was some of the best/quality organic soil up in North. Michigan but about the fertz i have only really focused on foxfarm. i never have bought any fertz but just seeing that the soil did well and it was organic i automatically thought of fox farm fertz. really they aren't 100 percent organic? what would you recommended and how often do you add? i mean i am not going to be able to make it out there everyday to add but you know what i mean. thanks crip!
bongsmilie RIPPIN DA ROOR
 

goldenchips

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I'm adding 1 tablespoon of unsulfured molasess per gallon+ my usual flowering nutes.
My first time using it so I'm not sure what to expect, but many people use and love it. I recommend you search molasess here in organics and alot of good info is available.
 

s.c.mtn.hillbilly

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f.f.grobig is not organic...it can burn your weed if you're not careful...their bloom on the other hand can be foliar fed about every 3 days...and I wouldn't wait for problems to show up. I use earth juice now, and foliar feed every 2 or 3 days..look at my blog for my ultimate biodynamic compost. the master kush smells like coffee instead of slight skunk...the n.l.haze gushes pineapple-everything produces way more sugars than I've ever seen.I think it has everything to do with the biodynamics,and the coffee and green tea bags in the pile. next round will be apple compost! you can't get that at the garden center!
 

Londoner

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f.f.grobig is not organic...it can burn your weed if you're not careful...their bloom on the other hand can be foliar fed about every 3 days...and I wouldn't wait for problems to show up. I use earth juice now, and foliar feed every 2 or 3 days..look at my blog for my ultimate biodynamic compost. the master kush smells like coffee instead of slight skunk...the n.l.haze gushes pineapple-everything produces way more sugars than I've ever seen.I think it has everything to do with the biodynamics,and the coffee and green tea bags in the pile. next round will be apple compost! you can't get that at the garden center!
from what i understand their bloom fert isnt 100% organic either, and its not about waiting for problems to show up, its about spotting the first signs that your plants need feeding, if you are using a light mix soil for seedlings or cuttings then yea feed weakly but if your using FFOF which from what i understand is like an equivalent of bio bizz all-mix, then you dont wana be adding any base ferts until your plant tells you to, these soils contain loads already, you can use your boosters or tonics if thats your thing but no base ferts until your plants have depleted most of the soils nute reserves and start to tell you they want more, and they will soon tell you when its time to start feeding, a plant will always grow happier with very slight deficiencies which can easily be ironed out as opposed to being loaded up with nutes they cannot metabolize, and causing irrepairable damage to the plant. if it aint broke dont fix it!
 

High4Life

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I use batgauno for flowering and seaweed extract for vegging they seem to be the best total organics about .. Top shooter is good for a boost

I use bio bizz fish mix blow grow and top max and biosevia growbloom.. they say they are 100% orgnic Certified thats just like those cereals with no added sugar and they are packed with the stuff lol

Once your plant shows its 1st true leaves not the seed leaf then its ready to intake some nutes or you could wait untill its nearly starved then do it
 

Londoner

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I use batgauno for flowering and seaweed extract for vegging they seem to be the best total organics about .. Top shooter is good for a boost

I use bio bizz fish mix blow grow and top max and biosevia growbloom.. they say they are 100% orgnic Certified thats just like those cereals with no added sugar and they are packed with the stuff lol

Once your plant shows its 1st true leaves not the seed leaf then its ready to intake some nutes or you could wait untill its nearly starved then do it
you really dont have a clue what youre talking about do you? your saying to feed when the plant is less than a week old in fox farm ocean forest PRE-FERT soil? are you a fucking fruit loop or something? that soil in a good enough sized pot will feed the plant fine for at least 4weeks! in many cases there is too much fert in them soils for certain strains and burning occurs BEFORE any feeding regime is started, its already been proven that you are talking complete gobshite in other threads, you really have proven to me that you dont know fuck all now, so you use bat guano, seaweed, bio bizz fish mix + bio bizz GROW? why? plus bio sevia grow and bloom, why? top shooter is synthetic based designed for hydro and will kill off the micro herd/flora in your soil in effect making your soil dead as will using any synthetic products in soil/compost, and bio sevia is an organic fert made specifically for hydro, and topmax is a waste of money that makes your bud taste putridly sweet like smoking pure golden syrup, organic certifications are nothing like cereals that claim to be sugar free when they arent, organic certifications from reputable bodies such as the soil association are there to ensure that all of the products ingredients are organically and ethically sourced and derived from sustainable sources, not to give people a false economy, and you call me a nob on other threads???? now FUCK OFF and go crawl back to the shitpit you appeared from and stop sniffing around my arse. just because you were proven wrong in another thread dont mean you have to have a vendetta with me. nuff said im going for a fat joint.
 

High4Life

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Yes plants are ready for feeding once it grows its 1st true leafs 2-3 weeks after that they start to feed of them selfs and turn yellow from a lack on nutes

Your promiting biobizz as 100% organic and it not just like those cerial box with no added suger its a marketing Move to sell the product ..

Them nutes are jjust some ive pick up along the way so i told him the best
The topp shooter was just bought to see if it really did add 35% weight

I dident promote any biobizz that was you man i just took advise from some 1 like you before promoting it as total orgain 100% certified .. When its just a lie so its you giving false info

i says i use it and found batgauno and sea weed extract was the best total organics ive used and collected along the way
 

Londoner

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Yes plants are ready for feeding once it grows its 1st true leafs 2-3 weeks after that they start to feed of them selfs and turn yellow from a lack on nutes

Your promiting biobizz as 100% organic and it not just like those cerial box with no added suger its a marketing Move to sell the product ..

Them nutes are jjust some ive pick up along the way so i told him the best
The topp shooter was just bought to see if it really did add 35% weight

I dident promote any biobizz that was you man i just took advise from some 1 like you before promoting it as total orgain 100% certified .. When its just a lie so its you giving false info

i says i use it and found batgauno and sea weed extract was the best total organics ive used and collected along the way

no you said you use bio bizz grow+fish mix, you should only use one or the other, they are both high in N, plus you use bio sevia grow+bloom along with bat guano and seaweed? im surprised you even have any plants overferting like that, AND NO when you are using pre ferted soils such as FFOF, bio bizz all mix, canna terra soils or plagron to name just a few then feeding when they only have one or two sets of leaves is complete fucking madness! in say a one gallon pot the plant will grow fine and healthy till its at least 10inches tall before it needs feeding OR poting on into fresh soil, and if you wana get personal posting photos in my threads of shitty run down flats and junked up women saying thats my flat and girlfriend then il be all over every fucking post you make you smelly cunt
 

Londoner

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and for the benefit of others please take some fucking spelling lessons or at least use the SPELLCHECK function on your computer, fucking uneducated retard
 

High4Life

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no you said you use bio bizz grow+fish mix, you should only use one or the other, they are both high in N, plus you use bio sevia grow+bloom, im surprised you even have any plants overferting like that, AND NO when you are using pre ferted soils such as FFOF, bio bizz all mix, canna terra soils or plagron to name just a few then feeding when they only have one or two sets of leaves is complete fucking madness! in say a one gallon pot the plant will grow fine and healthy till its at least 10inches tall before it needs feeding OR poting on into fresh soil, and if you wana get personal posting photos in my threads of shitty run down flats and junked up women saying thats my flat and girlfriend then il be all over every fucking post you make you smelly cunt

Not the seed leaf the 1st true leaf after those 1st two little leafs they be ready for feeding

And my plants are thriving no nute overdose any were

i do not use biobizz grow/bloom/topmax .
i just pointed out that they are not 100% organic certified like the bottle tell you , Or kelloggs put on there cereal , Its lies
BioBizz fish mix is very good for vegging thou Is it 100% organic like they tell us ... i dought it

I was puttting the man on to bat gauno and seaweed extract they are the 1s im happy with ,

Dry your eyes mate bongsmilie
 

Londoner

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Yes plants are ready for feeding once it grows its 1st true leafs 2-3 weeks after that they start to feed of them selfs and turn yellow from a lack on nutes


in the correct size pot with neat FFOF a plant will not yellow after 2-3weeks of growth!


Your promiting biobizz as 100% organic and it not just like those cerial box with no added suger its a marketing Move to sell the product ..


i aint promoting jackshit mate but bio bizz IS 100% organic as certified by many organic bodies, it contains zero synthetic/mineral salts. all ingredients are derived from sea kelp, mollasses, yeast and other ORGANIC products!


Them nutes are jjust some ive pick up along the way so i told him the best
The topp shooter was just bought to see if it really did add 35% weight

as the question asked was "when to add organic nutes" top shooter shouldnt have even been mentioned! that stuff is poison in a bio-active soil.

I dident promote any biobizz that was you man i just took advise from some 1 like you before promoting it as total orgain 100% certified .. When its just a lie so its you giving false info

why the fuck would an organic certification body thats completely independent of the nutes manufacturer want to promote a product that isnt 100% organic only to damage its own reputation?? if the nute manufacturer claims its product is 100% organic without any certification then yes it probably is a lie, but not if it carries a 100% organic stamp from a recognised association....
 

High4Life

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The same way kelloggs do it or any other of companys claiming there product is suger free .

Only we all know thats just lies the stuff is full of sugar
 

Londoner

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Not the seed leaf the 1st true leaf after those 1st two little leafs they be ready for feeding

And my plants are thriving no nute overdose any were

i do not use biobizz grow/bloom/topmax .
i just pointed out that they are not 100% organic certified like the bottle tell you , Or kelloggs put on there cereal , Its lies
BioBizz fish mix is very good for vegging thou Is it 100% organic like they tell us ... i dought it

I was puttting the man on to bat gauno and seaweed extract they are the 1s im happy with ,

Dry your eyes mate bongsmilie

yes bio bizz fish mix is 100% organic, the only bio bizz product that isnt certified organic is bio heaven which is pending certification because its still relatively new, so if you dont use bio bizz grow and topmax why say so in the earlier post? and they ARE 100% organic ffs mate what is wrong with you? i think all them excess nutes you are smoking in your plants has had some effect on your brain capacity, ok i disagreed with you on an earlier post but why act like a fucking retard and start posting childish pics? like i said in that other thread you cant handle a healthy debate.
 

High4Life

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yes bio bizz fish mix is 100% organic, the only bio bizz product that isnt certified organic is bio heaven which is pending certification because its still relatively new, so if you dont use bio bizz grow and topmax why say so in the earlier post? and they ARE 100% organic ffs mate what is wrong with you? i think all them excess nutes you are smoking in your plants has had some effect on your brain capacity, ok i disagreed with you on an earlier post but why act like a fucking retard and start posting childish pics? like i said in that other thread you cant handle a healthy debate.

Just believe what ya want to mate ,

Do you take trust in them soft drinks andd cereals that tell us there is no added sugar ?...
The biobizz products i bought them yes and i dident like them the bottles are full still except the fish mix its good for veggin

Lmao if my nutes (biobizz) are truely 100% organic like you are promoting . then i could smoke it all day with out any worries , But its not
Next time that you use biobizz try not flushing your plants out before harvest and them tell me its 100% organic lmao ..
I can tell you not it will taste funny and can cause bad headachs .. what do i know

There is no debate in you your just to arrogent .. and just stick with what people tell you or you read from that company that want your money just
 

Londoner

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The same way kelloggs do it or any other of companys claiming there product is suger free .

Only we all know thats just lies the stuff is full of sugar
have you got shit between your ears or something, yes thats a false economy because its kelloggs, the manufacturer that claims its sugar free to sell ITS OWN PRODUCT, there is no other independent bodies backing up theyre claim. now bio bizz for example are certified organic by OMRI and another organic body i cant remember off the top of my head, now OMRI and the other one are INDEPENDANT of the bio bizz brand, they get NO royalties from the sale of bio bizz products, they are independent bodies set up to monitor that organic products are just that, ORGANIC. they would only damage theyre own reputation if they certified products as organic if theyre not, and these bodies would not have been around for so long if they practiced in such a manner....!
 

High4Life

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have you got shit between your ears or something, yes thats a false economy because its kelloggs, the manufacturer that claims its sugar free to sell ITS OWN PRODUCT, there is no other independent bodies backing up theyre claim. now bio bizz for example are certified organic by OMRI and another organic body i cant remember off the top of my head, now OMRI and the other one are INDEPENDANT of the bio bizz brand, they get NO royalties from the sale of bio bizz products, they are independent bodies set up to monitor that organic products are just that, ORGANIC. they would only damage theyre own reputation if they certified products as organic if theyre not, and these bodies would not have been around for so long if they practiced in such a manner....!

This crap has been talked about a million times on this site and other and im not the only 1 that believes there products are false ..

Use biobizz with out a final flush then come back and tell me is total orgain ..

Your a fucking waist of space man
 

billy no m8s

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hey crippledguy! i think the answer to ur posted question is to leave it a while, londoners rite ther probly enuf fert in your soil to c u rite through ur veg stage, myself the only thing i use is seaweed extract which is not a fert anyway, it,s a soil conditioner, save ur money and buy a good bloom fert instead! peace
 

Londoner

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hey crippledguy! i think the answer to ur posted question is to leave it a while, londoners rite ther probly enuf fert in your soil to c u rite through ur veg stage, myself the only thing i use is seaweed extract which is not a fert anyway, it,s a soil conditioner, save ur money and buy a good bloom fert instead! peace
thank you billy, would you feed your plants that only have one or two sets of leaves, basically still a seedling, when your using FFOF or any other heavily ferted soil?
 
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