How do I start growing Vert??

[dandyrandy]

This is another, at chop;

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What a bear to harvest. Nice.

 

[ttystikk]

What a bear to harvest. Nice.

Quite the opposite. It all but jumps into your hands to trim. Gonna kick up the wattage next.

 

[Chef BrownSauce]

H.O.L.Y. SHIT!

I feel like I found Mecca.

 

[mendokush]

A lot of good info in this post. Im going to build a vert room over the winter

 

[legallyflying]

How's things in your world lately?

Things going well. Switched over to continously top feed on our veg system. Seems to be working quite nicely when the bulbs behave. I think there is MUCH less chance for root rot and we don't have to fuck with air stones and pumps so that is nice. The water in the continous feed buckets sits around 85% oxygen saturation so probably enough when the roots are sitting in the water.

Just finished harvest on one of the 40k rooms. Looking to be around 75lbs totalk which is NICE as its dry as hell around here and prices have shot up quite a bit.

Here is some bud porn... wHite fire og and black berry cheesecake.

 

[zep_lover]

for some ideas google marlos wall of weed or google vertical first attempt .lots of pics and good advice in those threads

 

[nk14zp]

No weaving. They're just clipped onto the trellis. I grow from clones so I know exactly what I'm getting, saves a lot of hassle.

I grow them normally through veg, then they get side lighting when they get flipped into flower.

Flatlander here and thinking about going vert. I normally take my clones the second week of flower. Are monster cropped clones good for vert or should I start some clones normally for a vert grow?

 

[ttystikk]

Flatlander here and thinking about going vert. I normally take my clones the second week of flower. Are monster cropped clones good for vert or should I start some clones normally for a vert grow?

Start them normally, you don't want to stunt them.

 

[pop22]

Great stuff here! I'm thinking on doing three vertical screens in my 4'x4'x6.5' tent. I see great minds tink alike ttystikk, as I've been considering those roughneck totes and using cut off buckets to raise the plant higher thus allowing for more water in the res. I've got three tents going right now one to finish soon. Going to try 2 Auto Ultimate's in vertical SCROGs. All I have are LED lights so I'm going to make a hanging system for them so that I can move them in and back from the plants, as well as up and down.

Hmm, maybe a vertical light mover??

 

[ttystikk]

Great stuff here! I'm thinking on doing three vertical screens in my 4'x4'x6.5' tent. I see great minds tink alike ttystikk, as I've been considering those roughneck totes and using cut off buckets to raise the plant higher thus allowing for more water in the res. I've got three tents going right now one to finish soon. Going to try 2 Auto Ultimate's in vertical SCROGs. All I have are LED lights so I'm going to make a hanging system for them so that I can move them in and back from the plants, as well as up and down.

Hmm, maybe a vertical light mover??

Those tuffboxes are dope. Insulate them, cover the lid so light doesn't screw with your roots. Add a 5 gallon collar just as I did, go with 6" netpot bucket lids.

Light movement didn't do much for me.

 

[ttystikk]

Just averaged 2# a plant on the last run. Vertical bulbs, plants in square cages, checkerboard style. I have a thread with pictures somewhere.

Vertical is easy and VERY effective.

Bulb in the middle with cage around it and a fan on the floor .

Your cage should be about 18" from the bulb. If you have the headroom I would REALLY advise you to hang the cage from the ceiling in order to be able to climb into the cage and train the plants.

Also, top your plants early and get multiple branches. Bend, break, "LST" whatever gay name you want to call it to keep the branches even. We grow trees and cut almost all the secondary shoots off the first foot or two of the main branches.

Use beneficials, keep the heat on check and DON'T over feed them and you will be really happy.

Sometimes the simple advice is the best. I know this comment is over a year old, still just as spot on now as it was then!

 

[tomuch]

START READING on this forum.... I swear to you, most of your questions will be answered with a small amount of astute studying

Indeed.

You can't do vert grow with one plant can u?

I guess it's possible, at least in theory - if you just top it and veg it to become a tree, that has brances/tops dragged/pulled so that it basically circles around the vertically installed light. But to be frank with you, I think it's not worth it. Four or five would be ideal. And then go for the stadium, so to speak.

 

[kiwipaulie]

No weaving. They're just clipped onto the trellis. I grow from clones so I know exactly what I'm getting, saves a lot of hassle.

I grow them normally through veg, then they get side lighting when they get flipped into flower.

Hey man. My hat is off to you. Those things are monsters. Do you grow horizontally in veg and then vert in flower? I've always wondered if I can do this?

 

[ttystikk]

Hey man. My hat is off to you. Those things are monsters. Do you grow horizontally in veg and then vert in flower? I've always wondered if I can do this?

Thank you!

Early veg is all flatlander style because I'm growing the stem tall enough to reach the middle of a six foot tall trellis.

Yes of course you can do it! Like any style it has its idiosyncrasies but certainly nothing a little practice won't handle.

 

[ttystikk]

A lot of good info in this post. Im going to build a vert room over the winter

How's it coming? I'm upgrading mine with a dual circuit chiller to provide hot n cold running water and 4800W of COB LED. Gonna be shooting for over two a plant!

 

[kiwipaulie]

Thank you!

Early veg is all flatlander style because I'm growing the stem tall enough to reach the middle of a six foot tall trellis.

Yes of course you can do it! Like any style it has its idiosyncrasies but certainly nothing a little practice won't handle.

Cheers man. So should I basically just try and grow them as tall as possible in veg horizontally and then in flower just let them gravitate towards the light vertically held back from the lamp with some sort of screen like you would in a normal scrog.

 

[fandango]

Look at my thread Docs lab and club vert 600View attachment 3240295

SEXY

 

[ttystikk]

Cheers man. So should I basically just try and grow them as tall as possible in veg horizontally and then in flower just let them gravitate towards the light vertically held back from the lamp with some sort of screen like you would in a normal scrog.

Instead of placing the screen between plant and lamp, put the trellis behind the plant, then use pipe cleaners or twist ties or vine clips to pull the branches back.

 

[kiwipaulie]

Instead of placing the screen between plant and lamp, put the trellis behind the plant, then use pipe cleaners or twist ties or vine clips to pull the branches back.

I'm going to have to give this a go. Sorry last question. My flower tent is only 4x4 and I've normally run a 1k hps. Is the tent big enough for vert growing and would the 1k be to hot? I normally run it in a cooltube. Cheers

 

[ttystikk]

I'm going to have to give this a go. Sorry last question. My flower tent is only 4x4 and I've normally run a 1k hps. Is the tent big enough for vert growing and would the 1k be to hot? I normally run it in a cooltube. Cheers

Nothing pleases me more than helping a dedicated grower get better at their craft, don't worry about asking me questions!

I'd try it bare first, with a box fan aimed directly upwards. Run it on low speed, it's just there to help the air rise and carry excess heat away. You might even remove the top of the tent if you can.