Best way to get rid of Root Aphids & Springtails

shogon92

shogon92

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Dear friends,

Now i've hear Springtails are beneficial to the soil and don't cause much harm to the plants however Root Aphids have the opposite approach!:wall:
I've come across what seems to be Root Aphids and was wondering how i can get rid of them so they can stop eating at the plants roots and also how to stop and control this from happening in the future!

Bit confused where i may have slipped up but everything was sterilised, the soil was shop bought (John innes seedlings soil).

:bigjoint:As always happy smoking:bigjoint:
 
Bubblegum31

Bubblegum31

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Dont liesten to ppl who says to you that springtails is harmless.

I have been fighting with those little f....s for almost 4 months now.

Tryed aptus soil shark attack combined with plagron neem oil.

Didnt kill them but reduced thier movments and population alot.

The first I stop using both they fucken reproduce like rabbits!

I have another isolated veg room now and I can see the difference in roots.

Springtails eats the litle tiny hair that comes out of the roots.

Also you will start seeing all kind.of probleems (deficiencys) look alike!

If you came across a sloution please inform me.

My chance now is when I finnish the infected ones in the flower room ll elevate the temps in this room in hope I get ride of them!!
 
Bubblegum31

Bubblegum31

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Just payed 50 us dollars for 2 oz bottle will arrive by end of january - mid feb from ebay.

Ill keep you updated.

Remmember some plants will do better than others.

Some will live with it and some will show big difs.

They eat the small hairs that comes out of the roots maken it hard to uptake nuts.
 
shogon92

shogon92

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greenghost420 said:
imidicloprod for rootaphids, i was just researching this for a friend. name brand merit i think was one...
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Nicee! just read up on it a little, gonna do a bit more research to see if its okay with cannabis! do you know the strength it should contain, seeing difference % on the googly not sure which one i should be looking at ;)
 
shogon92

shogon92

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Bubblegum31 said:
Dont liesten to ppl who says to you that springtails is harmless.

I have been fighting with those little f....s for almost 4 months now.

Tryed aptus soil shark attack combined with plagron neem oil.

Didnt kill them but reduced thier movments and population alot.

The first I stop using both they fucken reproduce like rabbits!

I have another isolated veg room now and I can see the difference in roots.

Springtails eats the litle tiny hair that comes out of the roots.

Also you will start seeing all kind.of probleems (deficiencys) look alike!

If you came across a sloution please inform me.

My chance now is when I finnish the infected ones in the flower room ll elevate the temps in this room in hope I get ride of them!!
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Dude this is soundingg like something i wanna reduce now while everything is still young especially if they go for the fibrous roots.. I'd like to know how that solution works though too
 
Bubblegum31

Bubblegum31

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Hay bro,

Basically am fucked :s!

After I read about merit 75 and the guys above who recommended it, I thought they meant it for springtails.

I just payed 50US dollars to get it and guess what, I just called the customs to ask about another proudct called Bifen I\T

They told me no its not aloud in the EU even the Merit is not aloud and am facing even a kind of a fine now :s!!

I contact the guy on ebay to stop the order and refund me but no answer yet :s:s!!!

I though Ill nuke those jumpers with both proudcts.

If you are in the US then thats your chance bro.

For me till now I really have no clue what to do with them!

I can not dry my medium as I basically grow in coco....

Neem oil just slow them down. And am not using it regulary as the oil is not good for the roots and am flowering at the moment.

Am really worried about my veg room as this creatures is so tiny that u dont even see them and am afried i transplant them to the veg room accidently.

Specially i just started a lovely 12 new seeds different tasty strains.

I think this will help you alot, please read it. Unfortunately i can not get my hands on any of the mentioned components

All are banned in the EU

http://www.houseplantsguru.com/springtails-and-how-they-damage-plants

Also this is a qouted text from a grower in another forum which I found helpfull

I copy paste as you will see his english is much better lool

Sorry for that :)
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Make sure you indentify correctly first.....

THEN---

You will hear from many people that they are no problem and simply feed on dead or decaying organic matter. Some will even tell you they are beneficial....all this is terribly wrong when considering the limited space within containers of an indoor garden.

I battled them for a loooooong time and they reduced my yields to nothing. Organic hydro and soil systems. NOTHING, trust me on this. When the organic matter within your container is exhausted they quickly begin feeding on your root and root hyphae systems rendering efficient nutrient uptake impossible. Everything during vegetative cycles will move along fine but as the needs of each plant explode during early Flower Phase you will see flower production come to a standstill.

Kill them now. I tried EVERYTHING. Once again, trust me please. From one of our state entomologists to any online resource I finally narrowed down one product: Bifenthrin. Used as a soil drench with the addition of Diatomaceous Earth I have eliminated them but use one drench per run just in case....

It is available under a few generic names and with different labeling for different uses, I'll leave the googling up to you...
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Hope this helps...

Bubble :leaf:
 
Justinsbudzzz

Justinsbudzzz

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I got rid of my roots aphids or gnats whatever they were. With a peroxide water mix I flushed the soil. And than I bought diatomaceous earth sprinkled that over the soil. food grade is safest. And last I took my lights down and sprayed every Inch of my room with peroxide than bleach and put it all back together it worked though no more bugs
 
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patrickkawi37

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Merit 75. 75 percent imidiclorprid . You can buy it on eBay and it will get to you. Don't call and ask about the shipping lol. Only use it in veg.. Water the fuck out of them and problem should be solved. If your worried about purchasing in the uk I think you can get the Bayer fruit and citrus stuff or the Bayer tree and shrub. Both of these have low dose imidiclorprid in them and should help your issue. If your in flower, ride it out work on fixing your veg
 
Bubblegum31

Bubblegum31

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patrickkawi37 said:
Merit 75. 75 percent imidiclorprid . You can buy it on eBay and it will get to you. Don't call and ask about the shipping lol. Only use it in veg.. Water the fuck out of them and problem should be solved. If your worried about purchasing in the uk I think you can get the Bayer fruit and citrus stuff or the Bayer tree and shrub. Both of these have low dose imidiclorprid in them and should help your issue. If your in flower, ride it out work on fixing your veg
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Thanks alot your post is very helpfull

The guy just refunded my paypal account so am lucky.

However, whats funny is.

When I called the employee behind the phone told me if it arrives to you just ship it back!!!

So I was like hah!! Can it arrives loool

Well I wish :D!!!
 
Bubblegum31

Bubblegum31

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Just read somewhere that imidiclorprid is not gonna eradicate springtails

The best suggestions till now is Bifen I\T

Talestar P

Just for any one who is following this or maybe one day will come across!!
 
personal lux

personal lux

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shogon92 said:
Dude you rock! Out of everything i've researched today they're definately going to be the thins that control the pest/insect in my medium! Thank you so much for that check it out people!!:blsmoke:
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I recommend them as a monthly preventative for all gardens where I work. They will eat the soil dwelling insects and then eat themselves! Good luck in the future man!
 
Bubblegum31

Bubblegum31

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Hay guys,

Am sorry I dont mean to dissapoint you all... BUT nematodes lives on the top 2/3 cm of the soil.

While spring tails sometimes show up on the surface when its dark
Then nematodes will eat them, however. The reall population lives in the third down underneath the surface.

They are nice predators if you are interested in biological warefare any way but then you will need a kind of drip system I think so when you water you dont disturbe them. I think!!. Just ideas :)

Bubble.
 
personal lux

personal lux

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Bubblegum31 said:
Hay guys,

Am sorry I dont mean to dissapoint you all... BUT nematodes lives on the top 2/3 cm of the soil.

While spring tails sometimes show up on the surface when its dark
Then nematodes will eat them, however. The reall population lives in the third down underneath the surface.

They are nice predators if you are interested in biological warefare any way but then you will need a kind of drip system I think so when you water you dont disturbe them. I think!!. Just ideas :)

Bubble.
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I'm not sure where you got the top 2/3 cm from its the top 5-6 inches they live in from what our suppliers tell us. I'd just suggest giving a full drench with them to take care of the problem.
 
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