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schuylaar

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MuyLocoNC said:
Actually, the percentages I listed are specific to Medicare, not Medicaid.

I live near Raleigh/Cary/Durham and the Research Triangle, hardly Hooverville. I've had two back surgeries in the last three years. From the time I was referred by my family practitioner, to the time I was out of surgery was a matter of days. I had the MRI done at a open MRI facility (I'm a bit claustrophobic) the same day as my initial consultation with my FP. We had the results emailed that day and I was up at Raleigh Neurosurgery meeting with one of the finest Neurosurgeons in the country, which is why my very young and cutting edge FP recommended him, the next day. With the pain I was in, I would have laughed in their faces if they had said two days, let alone two weeks. The surgery took place about 36 hours later at Duke University Hospital.

My second procedure a year later went identically. My wife had a knee surgery and a hip surgery that were similar in timing. My son had a small amount of Scoliosis that we wanted checked out and from start to finish (MRI included), it took days.

For that which you describe as standard and awesome, I wouldn't give a squirt of piss. Move to Canada or some other socialist cesspool, we ain't buying it.
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Maybe you aren't buying it but for millions of others in America it makes sense..and..hmmmmm..well.. majority rules..:mrgreen:
 
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MuyLocoNC

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schuylaar said:
Maybe you aren't buying it but for millions of others in America it makes sense..and..hmmmmm..well.. majority rules..:mrgreen:
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Actually, it doesn't, as evidenced by many recent court interventions. But, I get your point. I dont agree with the remedy, but if they want to jam 20 million more into the Medicare system, go for it. However, forcing those with perfectly good insurance and healthcare into the same crap system (by comparison), against their will, is bullshit.

I used to get upset over this shit, now I just sit back and watch the stupidity unfold.
 
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ChesusRice

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MuyLocoNC said:
Actually, it doesn't, as evidenced by many recent court interventions. But, I get your point. I dont agree with the remedy, but if they want to jam 20 million more into the Medicare system, go for it. However, forcing those with perfectly good insurance and healthcare into the same crap system (by comparison), against their will, is bullshit.

I used to get upset over this shit, now I just sit back and watch the stupidity unfold.
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NAME ONE COUNTRY WITH UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE THAT OUTLAWS PRIVATE INSURANCE. JUST ONE.
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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ChesusRice said:
NAME ONE COUNTRY WITH UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE THAT OUTLAWS PRIVATE INSURANCE. JUST ONE.
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Well, I can answer this straw man without resorting to all caps.

I'm sorry you didn't read or didn't understand the post you quoted.

"forcing those with perfectly good insurance and healthcare into the same crap system (by comparison), against their will, is bullshit."

Notice where I never said anything about outlawing private insurance?

We all know progressives don't attain their agenda with straightforward proposals made in the light of day, that's not how they operate. Just ask all those pissed off fellow citizens who found out the hard way. Remember "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan"?

Who couldn't see scumbag liberals institute a $50,000 "tax" for any employer offering any employee a private healthcare plan, while waiving the tax if they drop them into the single-payer system? That's obviously exaggerated, but it wouldn't need to be anywhere near that amount to succeed, would it?

Be honest for once. You've all already shown your asses on the subject anyways. We know what you want and we know you'll go to any resort to get it.

And who gives a shit what any other countries have for healthcare? F&$k every single one of them.
 
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ChesusRice

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MuyLocoNC said:
Well, I can answer this straw man without resorting to all caps.

I'm sorry you didn't read or didn't understand the post you quoted.

"forcing those with perfectly good insurance and healthcare into the same crap system (by comparison), against their will, is bullshit."

Notice where I never said anything about outlawing private insurance?

We all know progressives don't attain their agenda with straightforward proposals made in the light of day, that's not how they operate. Just ask all those pissed off fellow citizens who found out the hard way. Remember "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan"?

Who couldn't see scumbag liberals institute a $50,000 "tax" for any employer offering any employee a private healthcare plan, while waiving the tax if they drop them into the single-payer system? That's obviously exaggerated, but it wouldn't need to be anywhere near that amount to succeed, would it?

Be honest for once. You've all already shown your asses on the subject anyways. We know what you want and we know you'll go to any resort to get it.

And who gives a shit what any other countries have for healthcare? F&$k every single one of them.
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You have no answer. You go off in what ifs
There is not one country in the world that offers universal health care that does not also have a private health insurance market.
Nobody would be forcing anyone into anything.
 
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schuylaar

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MuyLocoNC said:
Well, I can answer this straw man without resorting to all caps.

I'm sorry you didn't read or didn't understand the post you quoted.

"forcing those with perfectly good insurance and healthcare into the same crap system (by comparison), against their will, is bullshit."

Notice where I never said anything about outlawing private insurance?

We all know progressives don't attain their agenda with straightforward proposals made in the light of day, that's not how they operate. Just ask all those pissed off fellow citizens who found out the hard way. Remember "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan"?

Who couldn't see scumbag liberals institute a $50,000 "tax" for any employer offering any employee a private healthcare plan, while waiving the tax if they drop them into the single-payer system? That's obviously exaggerated, but it wouldn't need to be anywhere near that amount to succeed, would it?

Be honest for once. You've all already shown your asses on the subject anyways. We know what you want and we know you'll go to any resort to get it.

And who gives a shit what any other countries have for healthcare? F&$k every single one of them.
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Forcing? Who said anything about that?

You've never birthed a baby have you?..it's a very long drawn out painful process..well worth afterward..before you get your briefs in a bunch..metaphor dude.
 
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schuylaar

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ChesusRice said:
You have no answer. You go off in what ifs
There is not one country in the world that offers universal health care that does not also have a private health insurance market.
Nobody would be forcing anyone into anything.
You are a fucking stupid racist moron
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And out of touch.
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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ChesusRice said:
You have no answer. You go off in what ifs
There is not one country in the world that offers universal health care that does not also have a private health insurance market.
Nobody would be forcing anyone into anything.
You are a fucking stupid racist moron
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So, despite my destruction of your straw man, you want to double-down on stupid. Did you see where I pointed out I never said private insurance would be outlawed?

So, nobody would be forced into anything, despite it already happening to MILLIONS of your fellow citizens, just recently? GOOD ARGUMENT.
 
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Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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schuylaar said:
Maybe you aren't buying it but for millions of others in America it makes sense..and..hmmmmm..well.. majority rules..:mrgreen:
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Actually, a majority doesn't rule, BUT you have been told that so many times you accept it as the truth.

Of course a majority has no more right to rule anybody than a single individual has, but that's another story.
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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schuylaar said:
Forcing? Who said anything about that?

You've never birthed a baby have you?..it's a very long drawn out painful process..before you get your briefs in a bunch..metaphor dude.
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Again, you think people reading this have memories so short they can't remember back just a few years when it already happened.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
You have no answer. You go off in what ifs
There is not one country in the world that offers universal health care that does not also have a private health insurance market.
Nobody would be forcing anyone into anything.
You are a fucking stupid racist moron
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First off you use the term "offer" incorrectly. It's not offered, if there is duress involved.

Also, private insurance isn't really private as it has the fingerprints of government all over it. The term "private insurance" is an example of wordsmithing that has crept into the lexicon and minions such as yourself fail to make any critical distinction when you blindly allow a meaning to shift to something that isn't.
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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Rob Roy said:
First off you use the term "offer" incorrectly. It's not offered, if there is duress involved.

Also, private insurance isn't really private as it has the fingerprints of government all over it. The term "private insurance" is an example of wordsmithing that has crept into the lexicon and minions such as yourself fail to make any critical distinction when you blindly allow a meaning to shift to something that isn't.
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My "private insurance" will be my fat wallet. Paying for services that I have no inherent right to, with the fruits of my own labor...as it should be.
 
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