Republicans Are Now For Bernie Sanders

Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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MuyLocoNC said:
My "private insurance" will be my fat wallet. Paying for services that I have no inherent right to, with the fruits of my own labor...as it should be.
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Good for you, you should be the one to make those choices.

A person cannot be free if others are making their choices for them.
 
nitro harley

nitro harley

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ChesusRice said:
Only thing I see forced is some of my coworkers who only stay with the company because they need the insurance for their family
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That must be a good job if they can't get free healthcare. With free healthcare for people that don't work, why would they stay just for the insurance?
 
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schuylaar

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nitro harley said:
That must be a good job if they can't get free healthcare. With free healthcare for people that don't work, why would they stay just for the insurance?
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Group Heath is inherently better than single policy..pricedbetter with better coverage and by law the employer (to get this good policy) must contribute. You may not carve out but you can have different levels of coverage offered. I've known employers to ask if they could have PPO while offering employees HMO only..short answer: no..discriminatory..and believe me..they've asked to do this.

Also nitro there is no free healthcare for people that don't work..just like welfare there are no free handouts..the program is called welfare to work and I believe Clinton put that in place.
 
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nitro harley

nitro harley

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schuylaar said:
Group Heath is inherently better than single policy..pricedbetter with better coverage and by law the employer (to get this good policy) must contribute. You may not carve out but you can have different levels of coverage offered. I've known employers to ask if they could have PPO while offering employees HMO only..short answer: no..discriminatory..and believe me..they've asked to do this.

Also nitro there is no free healthcare for people that don't work..just like welfare there are no free handouts..the program is called welfare to work and I believe Clinton put that in place.
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Good morning SKY,

To be honest I don't know much about employer Ins. I do know that I am pissed off at the Oregon Ins companies for raising my rate by 18/25% every year. There is a big sports arena in Portland called the MODA center, it used to be called the ROSE GARDEN and I don't know how many millions they pay for their name to be on the building, but that is my Ins provider. How can someone raise my rates and still justify spending money on a sports arena. Thats fucked up.

I am hoping Trump will fix shit or Bernie, because it makes me not want to pay anymore. I would rather put it in a savings account. TRUMP!
 
londonfog

londonfog

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nitro harley said:
Good morning SKY,

To be honest I don't know much about employer Ins. I do know that I am pissed off at the Oregon Ins companies for raising my rate by 18/25% every year. There is a big sports arena in Portland called the MODA center, it used to be called the ROSE GARDEN and I don't know how many millions they pay for their name to be on the building, but that is my Ins provider. How can someone raise my rates and still justify spending money on a sports arena. Thats fucked up.

I am hoping Trump will fix shit or Bernie, because it makes me not want to pay anymore. I would rather put it in a savings account. TRUMP!
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be aware that Bernie also wants to apply the Social Security payroll tax to income above $250,000. How much did you say you pulled last year...was it 400,000 net or gross
 
nitro harley

nitro harley

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londonfog said:
be aware that Bernie also wants to apply the Social Security payroll tax to income above $250,000. How much did you say you pulled last year...was it 400,000 net or gross
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Just so you know. I am an employee of my corporation and I pay myself what ever I want. I live pretty simple now days and am building the company up so, I could take that much but I don't.

My new boat captain has kicked some ass sense the jan 1 crab opener, so my son and I talked yesterday and decided to share the wealth and gave him a 1% raise. Sharing is caring. TRUMP!
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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That's why it's a good time to have already made your money and socked it away in gold and silver. They can't tax what they can't find.
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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londonfog said:
how do you hide capital gains
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Not everything can be hidden, but with precious metals nothing is reported. I took a small amount of my gold and silver that was purchased when I retired in 2005 and sold it in 2012 for three times what I paid for it. Stroked a check for a Sea Ray 250 SLX, while living off the cash and no one was the wiser. One of the reasons I love coins and precious metals, that and the inevitable financial meltdown we've delayed for seven years.
 
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red w. blue

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MuyLocoNC said:
Not everything can be hidden, but with precious metals nothing is reported. I took a small amount of my gold and silver that was purchased when I retired in 2005 and sold it in 2012 for three times what I paid for it. Stroked a check for a Sea Ray 250 SLX, while living off the cash and no one was the wiser. One of the reasons I love coins and precious metals, that and the inevitable financial meltdown we've delayed for seven years.
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Most will find it hard to make much on gold & silver, or coins. Using them as a hedge for inflation or to be liquid is fine.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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londonfog said:
be aware that Bernie also wants to apply the Social Security payroll tax to income above $250,000. How much did you say you pulled last year...was it 400,000 net or gross
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nitro doesn't make shit. having looked up his info, i can guarantee you he is a lying piece of shit who has to defraud social security to feed his fat, fat wife.
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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ChesusRice said:
You have no answer. You go off in what ifs
There is not one country in the world that offers universal health care that does not also have a private health insurance market.
Nobody would be forcing anyone into anything.
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schuylaar said:
And out of touch.
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Hmm, lets get the latest from Colonel Sanders himself:

“Yes, we will raise taxes. Yes we will,” Sanders responded. “But also, let us be clear, because there’s a little bit of disingenunity out there, we may raise taxes but we are also going to eliminate private health insurance premiums for individuals and for business.”

I'm sure he meant to add, "if you want to participate". Odd though, with the use of the word eliminate, it sounds fairly permanent and not very voluntary. Weird, huh?

This is where you back peddle and tell us how he's so smart, we just can't comprehend his "real" meaning. Just like you did with Obama.
 
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schuylaar

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MuyLocoNC said:
Hmm, lets get the latest from Colonel Sanders himself:

“Yes, we will raise taxes. Yes we will,” Sanders responded. “But also, let us be clear, because there’s a little bit of disingenunity out there, we may raise taxes but we are also going to eliminate private health insurance premiums for individuals and for business.”

I'm sure he meant to add, "if you want to participate". Odd though, with the use of the word eliminate, it sounds fairly permanent and not very voluntary. Weird, huh?

This is where you back peddle and tell us how he's so smart, we just can't comprehend his "real" meaning. Just like you did with Obama.
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And yet Hillarys dropping like a lead balloon according to your favorite news outlet seems 'we the people' like the idea of higher taxes..

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=7&ved=0ahUKEwjcxsGzysfKAhUJXR4KHeiNAK4QqUMIJjAG&url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/26/fox-news-poll-clinton-drops-below-50-percent-as-her-lead-over-sanders-shrinks.html&usg=AFQjCNGI4ccd4xjZEljWfMe6CFqNygysOQ&sig2=jOF4q2Vbmi9b1wEENWPnbA
 
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