ttystikk
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That logic worked out real well for Ross Perot, didn't it?
EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread
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londonfog
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we argue because you tend to have racists and bigoted views
2ANONYMOUS
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But the truth is not to many people realize what it took that guy to become a millionare sure for some it took nothing for most it was painful road long hrs not like to many americans would want to endure i mean really i have seen it asking a person hey can you work extra 4 hrs you should here the fuckin excuses so really there is no drive to become rich one just falls for the same old just do what you can to survive ,,
What i get really upset is when you ask some other person from another nationality lke a mexican or what ever they jump on it cause they know hrs = money more money bigger pay checks
But todays society wants to make money with out breaking a sweat there lazy do not want to work you always got to motivate them chase them out after each break etc and we need to go after the last remaining companies that call usa home
Wht happens after the last company moves out of USA you surely can look at each other at unemployment line and say wow we really fucked up now lets go after the middle class mind you you already have for years
If I ask you, “What do you want out of life?” and you say something like, “I want to be happy and have a great family and a job I like,” it’s so ubiquitous that it doesn’t even mean anything.
A more interesting question, a question that perhaps you’ve never considered before, is what pain do you want in your life? What are you willing to struggle for? Because that seems to be a greater determinant of how our lives turn out.
Everybody wants to have an amazing job and financial independence — but not everyone wants to suffer through 60-hour work weeks, long commutes, obnoxious paperwork, to navigate arbitrary corporate hierarchies and the blasé confines of an infinite cubicle hell. People want to be rich without the risk, without the sacrifice, without the delayed gratification necessary to accumulate wealth.
What i get really upset is when you ask some other person from another nationality lke a mexican or what ever they jump on it cause they know hrs = money more money bigger pay checks
But todays society wants to make money with out breaking a sweat there lazy do not want to work you always got to motivate them chase them out after each break etc and we need to go after the last remaining companies that call usa home
Wht happens after the last company moves out of USA you surely can look at each other at unemployment line and say wow we really fucked up now lets go after the middle class mind you you already have for years
If I ask you, “What do you want out of life?” and you say something like, “I want to be happy and have a great family and a job I like,” it’s so ubiquitous that it doesn’t even mean anything.
A more interesting question, a question that perhaps you’ve never considered before, is what pain do you want in your life? What are you willing to struggle for? Because that seems to be a greater determinant of how our lives turn out.
Everybody wants to have an amazing job and financial independence — but not everyone wants to suffer through 60-hour work weeks, long commutes, obnoxious paperwork, to navigate arbitrary corporate hierarchies and the blasé confines of an infinite cubicle hell. People want to be rich without the risk, without the sacrifice, without the delayed gratification necessary to accumulate wealth.
ttystikk
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I disagree with the idea that our defense budget isn't elastic. It's badly BLOATED and needs to be cut drastically. Right back to the necessities. $1.5 Trillion dollar fighter plane programs for aircraft that don't work isn't my idea of an inelastic expenditure. I'd be more inclined to agree with you if we were at war.
NLXSK1
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Here is why I defend the rich,
Because I want to be rich some day and I dont want to have worked that hard to be taking home a paycheck where my boss is the government and they get more than I do.
Who here is happy to see that the government gets a raise when they do???
Because I want to be rich some day and I dont want to have worked that hard to be taking home a paycheck where my boss is the government and they get more than I do.
Who here is happy to see that the government gets a raise when they do???
NLXSK1
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All our government budgets are bloated. The system is corrupt. You need to spend or exceed your budget or it will get cut the next year. This leads to ridiculous waste in the government. They buy tons of surplus shit they dont need rather than end up with more cash on the books than they are supposed to have. The system is DESIGNED to cause waste. And the budgets automatically get a raise every year without any vote from congress.
It is insane what we allow to happen but nobody gets educated about it and so it continues.
Fogdog
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Yeah, everybody has been chewing my ass on that one. I stand corrected.
ttystikk
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Either this is true, or it wrecks our economy. Again.
Therefore, it remains to be seen whether the American voter would rather listen to tough solutions for big problems- or continue to be lied to. We'll find out in November!
Fogdog
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Too bad about those Pats. While you were gone, we solved the budget problems. No tax increases needed if Corso runs for prez.
2ANONYMOUS
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And whats even funnier is yes small business cause someone worked 2 weeks at a landscape company or flooring company they think hey i can do this so start a company but struggle cause they in with 1000's of others in the same field haha
But for most people they think big companies or ones doing well are ??? thiefs but its not sure they find loop holes in the tax to better there odds no different then anyone of you in that persons shoes you would do the same am thing
People tend to forget how much these companies put into the employee training money WCB etc it also costs companies to keep you hired its not just a nicely paved road to richness
If there is tax hikes it should be across the board enough of this robin hood shit stealing from the rich and giving to the Governement cause it surely is not going to middle class or lower income families
But for most people they think big companies or ones doing well are ??? thiefs but its not sure they find loop holes in the tax to better there odds no different then anyone of you in that persons shoes you would do the same am thing
People tend to forget how much these companies put into the employee training money WCB etc it also costs companies to keep you hired its not just a nicely paved road to richness
If there is tax hikes it should be across the board enough of this robin hood shit stealing from the rich and giving to the Governement cause it surely is not going to middle class or lower income families
ttystikk
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Sorry, I didn't realize I was a few pages back when I wrote that.
The fact that our defense industry is so bloated with waste fraud and abuse comes as no surprise. What shocks me is that everyone- EVERYONE!- shrugs their shoulders to some variant of, 'what ya gonna do?' Ummmm, VOTE?
This is prime evidence that the way things work in America today is corrosive to the quality and perhaps even quantity of our collective future.
Corso312
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You will never be rich though, me either .. That is the fools gold they been selling for a very long time..the deck is stacked against us.. I don't hate rich people, Anonymous and a handful of other people post that graph about taxes.. Its very misleading, if you make 300k or 600 k you will get fuck
I see it like this, whoever gets in the whitehouse will be looking @ 20 trillion in national debt.. How can anybody not raise taxes?
Fogdog
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Why do you care? Why do you blather on about all this? You don't live in the US and you hate the country anyway. Go to Russia where they run the country the way you like it.
Corso312
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Shit... Haliburton would set off a couple bombs around the country to stop my Defense cuts.
ttystikk
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Easy: Ostrich mentality. It's worked fine so far! Well, maybe except for Shrubbery '43...
NLXSK1
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I will get rich enough to make myself happy. I am not sure how rich you think you need to be. For me 1-5 million in assets will do nicely.
Fogdog
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Yup, not only bloated but we need to do more "defense". Close those offshore bases where we are "projecting power" and go home.
Corso312
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You have to truly be Insanely wealthy to Dodge the tax code... None of us will ever reach that.
I know a guy who owns the largest heating n cooling outfit in the Midwest..he's self made and one year older than me... He bought a private jet for 7 million.. Why? Because his accountant told him to..write off... Dude makes a fortune already and now makes a nice payday leasing the jet when he's not using it. That's absurd.
I know a guy who owns the largest heating n cooling outfit in the Midwest..he's self made and one year older than me... He bought a private jet for 7 million.. Why? Because his accountant told him to..write off... Dude makes a fortune already and now makes a nice payday leasing the jet when he's not using it. That's absurd.
2ANONYMOUS
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Taxes will have to be raised to some degree its what the government does with it they need to get the debt down plain n simple now plan it over 10 years but to expect big corporations to fix the fuck ups the Government done is just wrong thinking stop borrowing money and get the debt down is only thing they need to do
Nuke the federal reserve
Nuke the federal reserve