BEWARE OF AUTOFLOR.ES

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Autoflor.es is most likely a scam, and if its not a scam than these are very unprofessional people with very low human relation capabilities. Personally I am convinced that they are NOT a non profit medicinal organization as they proclaim to be but a greedy and canny Millions Euro fraud.

I strongly suggest you keep away from these people if you value your hard earned money. Once they have it they will ignore you and treat you like dirt.

Completely unreliable service, dodgy crooks with fickle characters.

Don't trust them or their seeds.

They do not provide any info. They will NEVER send out ANY samples.

Who are their growers? Why is there no info on the strains they're selling?
 
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OK long story short:
These guys appear in a stand in almost all major cannabis events in Europe for the last couple of years. Proclaiming themselves to be the saviors of thousands of patients who need medical cannabis and cannot afford and/or do not have the permit. They have a list of the best selling strains straight from Leafly.
They offer these seeds for 1 Euro each, but only if you buy more than 10,000 pieces in a single order.
As I run a small seed shop myself, though unable to attend, a friend of mine met them (specifically a very dodgy creepy guy called Daithi O'cru) in the last CannaFest in Prague last November. He gave him my number and Daithi called me urging me to buy their seeds.
The offer seemed good and I was stupid to rush into it.
After a few phone calls and email conversations with this Daithi, I felt I was willing to try and order even though he would not provide any information on the strains and/or the growers, which is something I never done before.
Eventually I managed to convince him to let me order a small order the first time. As I explained my shop is small and I cannot afford a 10K Euro order.
Another mistake I made was to pay via bank transfer.
After we agreed on the procedure of the order and all the details were set I transferred him the money to his private account (I'm an idiot. I know:()
As soon as he had the money in his account he suddenly "had an emergency" and had to "urgently fly to Slovakia" (who the fuck cares?) and he cannot send the order on time due to that emergency and will only be able to send it next week.
When I politely asked him to cancel the order (the shipment had to be coordinated with someone to sign it when it arrives to the address, a week later there will be nobody there) he persistently refused to do so (only 2 hours after the transfer) and started calling me names and making physical threats (I have the full email conversations plus msgs exchange on FB with this a**hole).
So, I lost the money (they refuse to refund) and I lost the seeds, I don't trust he will send them and even if he does, I don't trust the seeds to be any good.
Either way I know a professional botanic who will gladly test them.
These people are bullies and do not belong in the Cannabis world.
 
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OK long story short:
These guys appear in a stand in almost all major cannabis events in Europe for the last couple of years. Proclaiming themselves to be the saviors of thousands of patients who need medical cannabis and cannot afford and/or do not have the permit. They have a list of the best selling strains straight from Leafly.
They offer these seeds for 1 Euro each, but only if you buy more than 10,000 pieces in a single order.
As I run a small seed shop myself, though unable to attend, a friend of mine met them (specifically a very dodgy creepy guy called Daithi O'cru) in the last CannaFest in Prague last November. He gave him my number and Daithi called me urging me to buy their seeds.
The offer seemed good and I was stupid to rush into it.
After a few phone calls and email conversations with this Daithi, I felt I was willing to try and order even though he would not provide any information on the strains and/or the growers, which is something I never done before.
Eventually I managed to convince him to let me order a small order the first time. As I explained my shop is small and I cannot afford a 10K Euro order.
Another mistake I made was to pay via bank transfer.
After we agreed on the procedure of the order and all the details were set I transferred him the money to his private account (I'm an idiot. I know:()
As soon as he had the money in his account he suddenly "had an emergency" and had to "urgently fly to Slovakia" (who the fuck cares?) and he cannot send the order on time due to that emergency and will only be able to send it next week.
When I politely asked him to cancel the order (the shipment had to be coordinated with someone to sign it when it arrives to the address, a week later there will be nobody there) he persistently refused to do so (only 2 hours after the transfer) and started calling me names and making physical threats (I have the full email conversations plus msgs exchange on FB with this a**hole).
So, I lost the money (they refuse to refund) and I lost the seeds, I don't trust he will send them and even if he does, I don't trust the seeds to be any good.
Either way I know a professional botanic who will gladly test them.
These people are bullies and do not belong in the Cannabis world.
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wow. Yeah. I think you made some bad decisions, if that's what happened.

I know about buy-ins when you company wants you to buy a certain amount of product.

But this sounds like a scam.

I wouldn't think breeders would let there gear that cheap.

I'm in the USA but I thought single seeds sold for around 7 euros?
 
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hondagrower420 said:
wow. Yeah. I think you made some bad decisions, if that's what happened.

I know about buy-ins when you company wants you to buy a certain amount of product.

But this sounds like a scam.

I wouldn't think breeders would let there gear that cheap.

I'm in the USA but I thought single seeds sold for around 7 euros?
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Yes the retail price for most top shelve strains is roughly 7 Euros. Wholesale prices are usually lower (obviously)
I was happy thinking is these strains are good I'll be able to offer them cheap.
I got conned :(
 
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420nstargazer said:
So you were gonna buy and resell seeds with no genetic/breeder info????

Are any of your clientele interested in bridges???
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I am working with one of the leading botanists with a renowned medical company growing company. He was expecting to get the seeds from me to get them checked. He would have been able to know about the plants more than the breeders themselves. I would have waited one cycle before offering them. I wanted the seeds to be sold in April, after he already checked them. Either way I am completely transparent with my customers as to where I get my seeds. I would have linked their webpage if things were going as planned.
 
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You're a little butt hurt, I can understand, being made to wait a week is killer eh? But both they examples you've gave are infamous freeloaders, one is so renowned he's blocked from many places now. I also know Autoflor.es too and I only hear good about them, even from the guys that grow the strains. Tbh, I know dozens of seedbank's personally and none pull back orders like that, I will go ask them myself
 
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You're a little butt hurt, I can understand, being made to wait a week is killer eh? But both they examples you've gave are infamous freeloaders, one is so renowned he's blocked from many places now. I also know Autoflor.es too and I only hear good about them, even from the guys that grow the strains. Tbh, I know dozens of seedbank's personally and none pull back orders like that, I will go ask them myself
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Sure I am a little "but hurt", anyone would be in my situation,
you can go ahead and ask them anything you want,
Daithi is a pathological liar. I can prove my case very easy.
Here are some excerpts from our correspondent:

Hi Daithi! Hope you're well!

Yes I am around.
Do you want to go ahead with the order to be send this coming monday?
Are you OK with what I asked about the shipment (i.e no paper invoice, to be send in a DVD case, Special Delivery via Royal mail)?

450 Euros are 340 GBP. How much should I add for the cost of packaging & shipping?

If all is good I will transfer you with the money on sunday for the seeds to be shipped on monday.

Let me know,
Best

From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:39 PM
To:


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From: daithi <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:56 PM
To:


Hi there I think about £6 for next day signed for before 1 or 12 am....and yes we are still on..I'm flying back to UK over the weekend for important meetings,,,cheers,,,

From:
Date: Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:58 PM
To: daithi <[email protected]>


Great news.
I'll be in touch sunday as soon as I transfer the money.
Have a great weekend.
Best

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:58 PM
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From: daithi <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:08 PM
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Oke dokie cheers



Sent from Samsung tablet.
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Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 2:44 PM
To: daithi <[email protected]>


Hi Daithi,

Just transferred 350 GBP into your account as discussed.
Please confirmed its received and please update me with the tracking number once its sent.

Many thanks.
Best,



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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 2:44 PM
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From: daithi <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 3:10 PM
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Hi I'm in Slovakia at moment...had to get here as a matter of urgency...I'm flying back to England..I have your order ready..I can post from Friday onwards..or you need Monday for Tuesday delivery..cheers...

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Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 3:14 PM
To: daithi <[email protected]>


Yes monday for tuesday.
Do not send on friday or there will be nobody to pick it up an sign for it.
Please send on monday for it to reach on tuesday. otherwise there will no nobody to pick it up and it will be held at the royal post which will make it difficult to pick it up for us.
Could you not have it send tomorrow, as discussed?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 3:15 PM
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Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 3:50 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>


Daithi plz let me know when you are planning to send it as I need to coordinate with Carolina to be there when it arrives.
She cannot be there on saturday so please do not send it on friday.
We discussed for it to be send tomorrow and thats how I planned it.
Please let me know ASAP if you cannot have it send tomorrow as discussed.
Please let me know when is the next time you will be able to send it if not tomorrow.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 3:51 PM
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Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:18 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>


Daithi I am very disappointed.
We agreed on the procedure only 2 days ago.
I specifically asked if it will be possible to send the order this Monday (tomorrow) and for that I transferred the money today and coordinated everything accordingly. You said it is possible. I trusted you.
Now, after I transferred the money you're being dodgy saying the order won't be sent until next week? This is not a good start mate.
I am disappointed, this is exactly what I feared would happen. We prepared the webpage for the new items and told our customers we will have new strains this week. This makes us look bad and unreliable. Needless to say it makes you look unreliable.
Please reply ASAP with clarity as to what is going on as I need to know.



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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:18 PM
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From: daithi <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 7:23 PM
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with respect my 9 business do not revolve your order I had to as an emergency go somewhere, ,,iI hold this time of emergency circumstance ahead of any order.your order is very small,I can not hold back a 2.4 million euro business because of ur order...your order will be sent as soon as I get back which is Thursday. .I'm post Monday morning with Tuesday delivery,,or alternatively I will refund you and u can try and source your order for these prices with another vendor....thanks daithi
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Daithi I am very disappointed.
We agreed on the procedure only 2 days ago.
I specifically asked if it will be possible to send the order this Monday (tomorrow) and for that I transferred the money today and coordinated everything accordingly. You said it is possible. I trusted you.
Now, after I transferred the money you're being dodgy saying the order won't be sent until next week? This is not a good start mate.
I am disappointed, this is exactly what I feared would happen. We prepared the webpage for the new items and told our customers we will have new strains this week. This makes us look bad and unreliable. Needless to say it makes you look unreliable.
Please reply ASAP with clarity as to what is going on as I need to know.



On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 3:51 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi there its Daithi il get back to you as soon as possible :)


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From: daithi <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 7:26 PM
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I just read the 2nd part of ur email....if u EVER call me dodgy again I'll arrange to meet u ....let that be the 1st and fuckin last time u ever mention that word to me ....and this is the 1st and last order u will ever have with us and I will make other vendors know that u require pampering for our ur stringent order.....iI acted weeks for u to contact us then u dissappear again.then pop up with your demands,,,your order has been packed is with me personally and will be displaced with tracking number,,do not order from us again we can do without the business...
Sent from Samsung tablet.

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Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 7:32 PM
To: daithi <[email protected]>


No no.
Do not send the order.
Just refund the money in full and you won't hear from me again.

My bank account details are:

Name:
Account number:
Sort Code:

Don't send us any seeds please. Just refund the money please 350 GBP.
Please refund as soon as possible.
Good luck with your business.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 7:32 PM
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From: daithi <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 7:35 PM
To:


There is a 180 day return policy.....
 
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colaking420 said:
You're a little butt hurt, I can understand, being made to wait a week is killer eh? But both they examples you've gave are infamous freeloaders, one is so renowned he's blocked from many places now. I also know Autoflor.es too and I only hear good about them, even from the guys that grow the strains. Tbh, I know dozens of seedbank's personally and none pull back orders like that, I will go ask them myself
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yes its a killer. he did not keep his word.,
why does he insist on sending the order and not refunding the money?
this is not how you treat customers, no matter how small their order is.
once he couldnt keep his word he should have apologized and refund the money.
But he's a criminal and a scammer
 
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ive not heard of them before on rollitup so i doubt many people use them here, most people here dont buy that much in bulk
sorry for your loss.

scammers are frequent in this seed business /marijuana selling community i find and when they do scam its always for so much money and on people who cant afford it like cancer patients.
really sad.
 
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in repsect of REPRs rants and threats and behaviour,,,it wasnt within our remit to refund his moneys once it had been through due process we only refund in matters of our error or circumstances beyond our control,,once a seed order is taken from their fresh packs and then resealed they are not send back from their original destinations,the boy in question is right in 1 sense it was agreed a certain postal date was indeed possible and with the grace of god it didnt happen for reasons i do not need to explain here,,,i apologised and offered a different soloution which was not in agreement with this guy,,,autoflor are transparent and have an excellent track record in dispatch and integrity,,,in respect of someone saying our seed prices are to low,,well i concur whole heartedly they indeed are low,,and low for a reason we do not feed our accounts and charge 7 euro a seed thats 699% profit on every seed..we do not give away lighter stickers tshirts tampons space rockets or glitter coverd nappies,,if we do that then the price of seeds would go through the roof,,the thing with having an ethical seedbank is the approach to desenstizing the general view on seed prices,,,would u pay £500 for an oz of weed or would u rather pay £150 of someone else,,there isnt enough education yet out there,,the buyer at the end of the day has the shout contact ur banks and ask for lower prices they are makin money hand over fist...we do what we do because we have a medicinal programme to adhere to,,we allocate alot of seeds through out the year to certain peoples who need them we dont need to bum and blow and post statistics of who weve helped,,from time to time they post for themselves,,,i will not stand by at let someone tarnish so man years of hard work with his childish rants and conspiracy theorys if hes that way bound he can go on youtube and watch re'runs of Xfiles..i tried my level best to sort this guy out over weeks he dissapeard then came then dissaperd them messaged then didnt,,,even if u read his posts u can see through his ramblings,,,he has cheery picked certain mails to show yous in his favour but the right once he has sent me MANY and texts and fake account messages, heres his behaviour in pvt messages to me...the worst crime here is people buying into his theory and hes just signed an account today,,,tch tch tch ,,,he admitted to me hes been bitten before which is a sad fact here,i feel for those that have or paid out their rear ends for beans that havent popped frustration a plenty,,,Autoflor gave away plenty of seeds on and of facebook and ran comps,,,and the comp whores and seed bleeders ruined it for everyone else,,,we can not suck up huge costings like big banks ,,,and yes we have been open to people leetching before but lessons learned,,,,this guy (name removed) is a disgruntled frustrated little boy who unfortunatly didnt get his order when ,,HE WANTED,,,,so now his personal vandetta is against Autolfor,,,,the reason ie someone says they havent heard of us before is,,untill today there has been no personal attack or negativity in our direction,,,but youl find plenty of people of good words to say,,if there was plenty of words to say over the years you would surely have heard it by now,,,,,,in closing and this is the last of the matter from me,,,,,i have never taken a wage from Autoflor and i mean £1 $1 never taken a wage in all these years,,,and i work circa 150 hours a week,,well i did untill late last year when on medical advice i had to wind down on the hours......i would advice those not to buy someones bitter story it only causes dissent on forums,,,,good luck everyone and happy farming....D

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you people should be ashamed of yourselves
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http://www.marijuanagrowing.com/showthread.php?21740-Beware-of-autoflor-es
I'm just getting started
just warming up
you don't know me, I will not stop
for a start i'll get google search results filled with bad reviews whenever someone type in the name autoflor/es
think again if this is worth my lousy 350 pounds
do the right thing and pay me back my money
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hope you like my presents
let me know if you need any help deleting messages asshole
5:20AM


it takes me only few minutes to mess yp your fb page. how long does it take to delete the messages? just wondering. Give me back my money, thief, I will not stop until you refund my money. I can keep coming from other profiles just like you in case you manage to block me. i'm not afraid of you fucking thug bully, Give me back my money you thief


just a dispicable common thief using claims of charity. charity my ass you are a fraud. your a pathological liar and a corrupt little fuckface and i am gonna teach you a kesson for stealing from me you piece of shit


is it really worth it?
if i am a nut case ike you say i am, and admitingly i am actually a nutcase, but i am fair and i keep my word, i don't lie and i don't con people, you on the otherhand are both a nutcase and a piece of shit
if i am a nutcase just refund me and leave me alone with my insanity
why take money from a naive crazy person
unless you're a piece of shit


I already cost you way more than the 350 you stole from me. And thats just overnight. Think what I can do in a year! We have great things ahead. Show you really care for those sick people you claim to volunteer and work 100 hours a week for and pay me back my money, do the right thing


make me stop
I will write emails and forward our conversations to anyone in the business that i find. this is gonna be big. mark my words. maybe we'll get to the cover of high times magazine!
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you want to name and shame me fuckface? you will only name and shame yourself. thief
you stole money from the wrong nutcase, fuckface
 
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So you can't refund him because the circumstances were in your control, and then you give the customer's name on a public forum. Sounds cool, what was your website again? Maybe if you got more than 18hrs of sleep a week you wouldn't be so ornery.
 
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