Terpenes enhancement and manipulation
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GrowerGoneWild
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Terpinators MSDS lists:
CAS No.7778-80-5
Chemical Name:Potassium sulfate
I gave terpinator a try it was too spendy for me, it did work at the higher levels suggested. Its and I was using raw potassium sulfate and epsoms to boost sulfur, there seems to be some research that the terpene family is somehow related to sulfur.
I tried the actinic lights too.. with the terpinator.... 10,000K solis tec finisher light.. It seemed to work.. but the ripening finish times took longer.
I brought a bag for the waitress, at this spot I go to all the time, it was soo stinky.. Chemdog with terpinator and the solis tec light. I should have triple bagged, everybody around me was talking.. "somebodys got some good stuff." .. That stupid north face jacket I got had those breathable pockets.
CAS No.7778-80-5
Chemical Name:Potassium sulfate
I gave terpinator a try it was too spendy for me, it did work at the higher levels suggested. Its and I was using raw potassium sulfate and epsoms to boost sulfur, there seems to be some research that the terpene family is somehow related to sulfur.
I tried the actinic lights too.. with the terpinator.... 10,000K solis tec finisher light.. It seemed to work.. but the ripening finish times took longer.
I brought a bag for the waitress, at this spot I go to all the time, it was soo stinky.. Chemdog with terpinator and the solis tec light. I should have triple bagged, everybody around me was talking.. "somebodys got some good stuff." .. That stupid north face jacket I got had those breathable pockets.
since1991
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Yeah....sulphur increases flavor of greenhouse tomato growers. Size smell and color too. Mag sulphate in early bloom and potassium sulphate in later stages of flower will make shit happen. P sulphate is standard in the big commercial vegetable greenhouse growers arsenal. It works for me in the basement for sure. High phosphorus levels in early flower....back them off later. Its the potssium and sulpher that makes a banging crop if you got really good genetics. If you dont like to make your own and have the extra money....something like Botanicare Sweet in early flower and switch over to Terpinator about week 4 or 5 will get her done. Ive used this with Ionic grow and bloom with humic acid and silica and its pretty fool proof. Big relationship between humics, vitamins and aminos and calcium,magnesium,sulphur and potassium . Time all this rite in your tanks and buds turn out extremely smelly, tasty and potent as hell
Uncle Ben
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Detroit J420
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all i grow n smoke is a cut i picked outta a shitload of sour og seeds from dna, when it comes to a loud smell OG is where its at, and the best tasting smoke on the planet is sour dee.. OGs a staple in cali, and sour dee is the staple in new york, runnen the best of the east n west coast... my shit aint the strongest.. but its a damn good long lasting quality high with unbeatable loud stank and mouthwatering flavor, im gettin to old to be fucken around with the crazy nevills hazez n all the other trippy shit out there.. Terpenes is where its at and they play a major role in the high
since1991
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I dont know where my sour og is from. I got it from a friend of a friend years ago but its the most consistent in my line up. Big buds too. Upper medium potency. If i could bump up that one to like more of a og (kosher, grail) in the strength i would keep her another 7 years.
a mongo frog
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Agreed. Well said.
since1991
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Something about Sour Diesel and Og Kush works for some reason. The 2 pair nicely together. Largely dependent on what your actually working with but generally the 2 together makes a great hybrid. Not uber potent but alot of normal (lol) people dont wanna get blasted to the stratosphere a the time. The majority of smokers i know do not have a seriously high tolerance and medium potency weed is just fine for them. Especially older people and chicks. It works for me because alot of the pig yeilders are medium to upper medium in potency. I like big gals. And the taste and smell is on point. To me Sour × Og is the modern day NL#5 x SK#1 that was in all the growrooms back in the olden days.
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GrowerGoneWild
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Some thoughts about metal oxides having influence on terpene expression.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=318652&page=3
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=318652&page=3
Detroit J420
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The cut i picked out of dna's sour og has a nice relaxing sedative but functioning high.. but the part i love is it has this 4-5 second spike in the high thats extra crazy, trippy and overpowering.. but scince it only lasts 4-5 secounds you cant really call it overpowering. it hits like once, twice a minute.. good enough for me..
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Josch Edgington
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That's all cool guys just try my method and you will smell and taste the difference. I have grew a few strains and quite a few autos and helped other growers achieve some amazing results. Don't knock it before you try it.
Joedank
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best post i have seen from you yet
now this will change a plant for the better . lots of papers about running inversions in horticulture/...
GrowerGoneWild
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The burden of proof is on you. I literally need a lab printout showing you were able to say increase limoline or whatever terpene with your treatment, you procedure isn't well written on how to "enhance and manipulate" 1ml of oil per liter?. how often.. .etc
Write a procedure, show some lab results, make it so we can reproduce the results... I have to be skeptical, its very possible that some of your suggestions could cause damage or unwanted effects.
Josch Edgington
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Ok bro what strain are you growing that you would like to increase the terps in and I will hook you up with what to do. No need to go into details with people who are just trying to get free info by mocking people. If you are truly interested I will do one strain for you. No need to put things out there for people just trying to take credit for the work.
Josch Edgington
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I don't have a burden. I have already accomplished increasing limonene. Limonene comes in three different flavors. grapefruit, lemon and tangerine. This is very common knowledge. Since essential oils are just a collection of the terpenoids of the plant you are basically using the terps that are in cannabis already, no chemicals 100% pure essential oils. You could accomplish yhe same thing by planting plants around your grow that contain the terpenes but that would take a lot of extra space. With the oils you are just recreating the natural environment without actually having to plant those plants around your cannabis. but you have to address the smell and taste together. Just increasing limonene would leave you with a citric burn at the back of your throat, so you would have to address the sweet or savory aspect depending on strain to add to the flavor to counter the citrus burn to achieve optimum flavor.
GrowerGoneWild
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No, outline your procedure on how to manipulate terpene production. So somebody else could recreate it and verify results without bias.
Adulteration and manipulation are very different things.
personal lux
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Ahhh, so much to learn everyday I think we all forget more than we remember!best post i have seen from you yet
now this will change a plant for the better . lots of papers about running inversions in horticulture/...
Joedank
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i dont agree with the OP's arrogance but there are numerous studies about the manipulation of terpines in basil (occilum supp.) based on n-p-k ratios in the soil . also on root exudates and heavy metals , modulating terpine responce . a lack of nitogen seems to force a plant to exude pineline (sp?)
will link some if you dont wanna google
Where do the other strong strains come from? Why did you get kicked off of ICMag?
Josch Edgington
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NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! I have had enough of you all. You just want to be wiki warriors and key board gangsters. I was going to give you guys my formulas and share the info but you all just want to hijack someones info and call it your own. I gave you all the info its in the posts. Do your own research and spend the next two years doing you own trial and error. To think I was almost dumb enough to be cool and share but I see now you all just want to be skeptical. If you are not received you dust the dirt off your feet and never look back. So have a nice day all. That is all I am willing to share on the info. You add all kinds of shit to your grow already and you are complaining about natural plant matter. Give me a break, what world do you live in death is my set. Guess my religion. lol