Please help. Plant leafs dying off quickly.

[OregonGrown420]

I had this plant and grew it for about 2 months then put it into budding to see if it was a girl. I planned on growing it through winter to stick out side this spring. It's been stuck on budding for about a month after the switch back to 24/7 light. It looks like it's starting to grow again but the last few days the leafs have starting dying off and turning dark in spots , they seem dry like they are burnt from light but I'm only using a CFL and it's not too close. I flushed with water thinking it was over fertilized but I did my norm dose and 3 days now it's getting worse daily.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
OG

 

[fabizpwn]

What size pot is it in? Have you given it any calmag? Ph of water? How long did you have it in 12/12?

 

[OregonGrown420]

It's in a 5 gallon pot and I didn't give it any cal mag. A dose of Epsom salt every so often and I use tap water(calcium) so thought I was covered for cal and mag.. it was in 12/12 for about 2 weeks it just started showing hairs and tiny nugs. I don't know the water pH I don't know how to test it but I have been growing small amounts for years and never had this problem. ????

 

[fabizpwn]

Did you continue to give it a veg nutrient high nitrogen when you flipped it or did you change over to a bloom booster higher pk when you flipped it? I would probably repot it in a bigger pot anyways, 10g +, first 2 weeks of flower makes the plants grow big including the roots maybe root bound.

 

[OregonGrown420]

I kept the nute mix the same.. I have been using a bloom booster at half dose for veg.. is that horrible? Seems to have always worked fine b4. Would it being root bound cause this? I plan on putting it in a 30 gal in my green house in about a month. Then outside completely after the last frost.

 

[fabizpwn]

I'm not much or a soil person but the early flower stretch may have made it root bound. I don't see a need for pk in veg and maybe since you were doing a 50/50 mix of veg bloom nutes made the plant N deficient during the early stretch of flower, I run the first 2 weeks of 12/12 at full strength veg nutes or until i start seeing flower sites, in hydro..it could be the case. Stop the bloom booster and bump the N up. Maybe she's hungry. Slip it out of the pot too and see how the roots looks also, that may be more of a concern over the feeding schedule.

 

[getdown76]

I had this plant and grew it for about 2 months then put it into budding to see if it was a girl. I planned on growing it through winter to stick out side this spring. It's been stuck on budding for about a month after the switch back to 24/7 light. It looks like it's starting to grow again but the last few days the leafs have starting dying off and turning dark in spots , they seem dry like they are burnt from light but I'm only using a CFL and it's not too close. I flushed with water thinking it was over fertilized but I did my norm dose and 3 days now it's getting worse daily.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
OGView attachment 3594682 View attachment 3594683 View attachment 3594684

Well, first off, once you sex your plants they tend to take 3-4 weeks to go back to veg, unless you catch them in the first 72 hrs they will got back into veg within 7-10 days. Second because of the confusion from going from veg to flower and back to veg she doesnt really know what she wants so she is going to show a few deficiencies. At the moment it looks like she needs some mag and a tad bit more calcium. Along with that your going to want to give her a high dose of nitrogen to help signal her to go back to veg. 24 hour veg is good for this situation as well. Good luck...

 

[OregonGrown420]

I know people hate MG but will a normal tomato MG fert be sufficient?

 

[fabizpwn]

I know people hate MG but will a normal tomato MG fert be sufficient?

Not sure, closest thing I ever used was time release osmocote for a gorilla grow lol. The osmocote sucked lol, I'm sure it's Better then nothing though

 

[getdown76]

if you have access to MG then you should have access to worm castings? Topsoil with it. All done.

 

[Alienwidow]

I kept the nute mix the same.. I have been using a bloom booster at half dose for veg.. is that horrible? Seems to have always worked fine b4. Would it being root bound cause this? I plan on putting it in a 30 gal in my green house in about a month. Then outside completely after the last frost.

I would keep it inside for a little longer than a month. If you don't want it to grow huge keep it in the pot its in and feather it for a while. Then transplant when you totally have to. That thing is going to be super huge if you get it out that early in Oregon and it stands a good chance to flower and then reveg again. Think about april to get them outside. Id flower that one inside and start new ones for the upcoming season, in about three weeks would be good to start seeds or clones. Fresh start. If your in oregon you should have easy access to beans and clones. Cheers.

 

[MedicalMike420]

What's you PH? If the ph is off the plants roots can't absorb it's nutrients properly. Did you give it flowering nutes or any other changes than just lighting? What are you using for soil?
Ussually even if a plant is in veg, after two months it should have some sort of preflowers.

 

[Crab Pot]

Your plant is deficient in calcium. Epsom salt has magnesium but no calcium. You can either supplement with a cal/mag product or top dress with earth worm castings (full of calcium) as was already suggested.

I hope you can find a better fert than mg... that stuff is not made for medicine!

 

[OregonGrown420]

Ok worm castings it is. It's legal to grow 4 here now so I was hoping it would get huge that's why I was gonna grow it over winter just to see how big it would get but I flowered it first to make sure it was a girl. I have several clones of that one that are nice and healthy that im gonna bud now, then I'm gonna clone the bigger one to have 4 outside this summer but I wanted a jump start

 

[OregonGrown420]

When I use the worm casting at what strength should I mix it?

 

[fabizpwn]

If you wanna get it huge use a couple hundred gallon beds lol. Those
Mendicino guys use something like 400 gallon.

 

[getdown76]

When I use the worm casting at what strength should I mix it?[/Q
just use it as a top soil (maybey 3-4 inche layer). If you throw her in a 60 gallon pot you can easily get 2-3 lbs out of her!

 

[SPLFreak808]

Acidic/dense root zone or lacking mg/ca.

 

[Crab Pot]

Yeah, I would mix it so it doesn't cake on top. I usually just take a little aeration (pumice, lava rock, perlite, ect.) and mix that in with the castings. You could also get extra soil and mix that in with the castings at around 50/50, then do a 1" top dressing.

 

[OregonGrown420]

Well the pot I have is 30 gallons but I'm sitting it on top of my raised garden bed and I cut large holes in the bottom of the 30 so when it reaches the bottom it will be able to keep going just gonna bury the pot a few inches in the garden.