New to the game. Nutrient help!!!

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I used synthetics in the past it works to grow plants but it is not sustainable. And once you have an organic system in place which can take a couple of years it is easier and cheaper you could get slightly more yield out of synthetics but I don't grow for yield. I am allowed to grow 96 plants I don't care about a few grams per plant and I don't spend money on fertalizers

 

[churchhaze]

Myco fungi will not survive with urea. When you take something organic and add synthetic you now have synthetic you can't have a proper organic garden with synthetics

Urea can be natural or synthetic, so the argument that synthetic chemicals kills myco fungi because urea kills fungi is inconsistent.

Also, urea in small amounts is needed to keep nitrifying bacteria alive.

 

[churchhaze]

I'd also like to see evidence that urea in the concentrations used to fertilize plants will kill fungi.

 

[az2000]

There is no such thing as a combo of organic and synthetic when u add the synthetics you are killing the micro life with organic it's all organic or it's not organic

That's not been my experience.

I do believe synthetics are harmful to the soil's microbiology. But, I don't believe it's an either-or proposition, as if the tiniest amount of synthetic will sanitize the soil. It seems more like a matter of degrees.

I add a little sugar to offset the effect of synthetic nutrients. I try to use organic supplements to boost N, P or K as desired. And, I add humic/fulvic acids each feeding (it's not either/or, and a small amount of synthetics doesn't sanitize the soil from any life.).

My experience has been very good this way. I've never done pure organic (water-only, teas). But, I get the taste benefits (it's very noticeable compared to GH Flora 3-part) without the work of composting a "true" living soil.

That's just my experience. There are likely better ways. But, I'm pretty sure it's not as absolute as you depict (i.e., it's not an either/or choice, and a little synthetic nutrient doesn't sanitize the soil into a lifeless medium.).

 

[Alexander Supertramp]

I'd also like to see evidence that urea in the concentrations used to fertilize plants will kill fungi.

So would i because urea must be broken down by microbes/bacteria before a plant can use it. Of course anything in excess can cause issues. Even excessive organics. If anything is killing microbes its poor feeding habits. Not the ferts used.

 

[churchhaze]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

 

[bluntmassa1]

Don't bother with overpriced canna nutes Jacks Classic does just as good I use all porpoise and bloom booster just as good results as AN Tecnoflora and General Hydro. Organics can be great and cheap too but it takes a lot more work to build a great soil without paying out the ass with something like super soil.