*-*The 8th Official Party Cup Grow Competition Registration Thread*-*

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Alienwidow

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On a side note for those of you running LED's, dimming is allowed IIRC. I had to dim my lights in the 6th comp due to temp issues.

@FrozenChozen is dimming kosher? I'd assume dimming for HID lamps would be in the same boat so long as the bulb itself doesn't change.
I think you guys are getting too technical. And if you guys are scared to start the sprouts under your leds just take pictures under the comp lights and cheat by starting them under floros, if ya cant hack it ;)
 

PurpleBuz

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I think you guys are getting too technical. And if you guys are scared to start the sprouts under your leds just take pictures under the comp lights and cheat by starting them under floros, if ya cant hack it ;)
you telling me to cheat ? LOl never ....

besides I asked why the rule ? not how to make it work. I can always make it work, but it its too much work to fit into my grow space, its not fun anymore.
 

bicit

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I think you guys are getting too technical. And if you guys are scared to start the sprouts under your leds just take pictures under the comp lights and cheat by starting them under floros, if ya cant hack it ;)
I had no issues starting my seedlings under a pair of 75w CXB3590's last round. Just gotta raise the light a bit.

I have 4000k cobs this round though rather than 3500k.... Wonder if I should pop a few photo reds into the mix, or a 2700k decor vero 18.... Choices.
 

Alienwidow

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you telling me to cheat ? LOl never ....

besides I asked why the rule ? not how to make it work. I can always make it work, but it its too much work to fit into my grow space, its not fun anymore.
I dont get the rule either. Its my first cup cup. It may not even be a rule. I dont think ive read them really. All i know is i have a seed, a cup, and a dream. A dream to kick everyone's ass.
If you dont have room put it in a topsy turvy ;)
 

Alienwidow

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I had no issues starting my seedlings under a pair of 75w CXB3590's last round. Just gotta raise the light a bit.

I have 4000k cobs this round though rather than 3500k.... Wonder if I should pop a few photo reds into the mix, or a 2700k decor vero 18.... Choices.
Just out of curiosity,....how high would you think id have to have thousand watt hps bulbs? :lol:
 

the dopest

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You can absolutely start seeds under a 200w led, people start them under 1000hps all the time, it's not a waste either. Light won't kill a seedling, heat will so if you are running hot just raise the light up or increase your air flow.

I have a seedling that's under 220ish watts of led right this second and it's just as happy as the ones under 55w. I'm doing a trial run to see if a seedling can tolerate the 1400+ ppms from my reservoir or if I will need to hand feed it for a while before auto feeding. So far so good.
 

snowboarder396

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why is there a rule against changing lights ?

I'm setup to use different lights in different spaces for seedlings and clones, teen vegging and flower.

I was thinking of showing who is top dog for fun, but not being able to change lights eliminates that possibility. I mean shoot I can't put a seedling under a 200 watt led.
I dunno where you get that a seedling can't survive under 200 watts led. Ive started seedlings under more thana 200 watts of led. Its not light that will kill them its heat and potential to bleach them. Its fairly easy to fix by just raising the lights height, shouldnt be that close to plants to start seedling anyway. Or dimm them if able.

It's a rule because there is no vegging allowed, meaning so you can use a blue spectrum veg light and switch it under a more suitable flowering red spectrum. You need to do it under one, usually being flowering light since its 12/12 from seed.

Its also a rule so that someone cant use say a 300 watt hid and then switch over to 600 or 1000 watt hps. To keep playing field as level as possible by everyone having to use whatever lights they start with all the way through, thats what makes up part of the challenge. Without leveling playing completely by forcing everyone use same exact light/brand/watts etc. Which would be extremely hard to do not to mention no one would compete if they had to go out buy lights specially for this comp.

Sure there are other reasons as well, maybe frozen will chime in as well. Its always been a rule.
 

a senile fungus

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I have some dinafem cheese I was thinking about running. More than a few haze crosses but I'd like to keep height and flowering time shorter if possible... I have a couple packs from members here but I'd like to give those a true chance in the garden, no party cup fun for those little ones. I have critical kush or cheese that I think I'll run. I also have blue fire x diamond og that looks interesting, but that might be cross that I want to give a "real chance".

This comp I will grow under HID, unlike the 6th comp in which I did the vertical trash can with 330w of mixed spectrum fluoros. I have 2x Gavita 6/750 de, 1000w of HPS in a parabolic, or 2x 315w CMH in adjustawings in a 4x4. Which light do you think the seedlings will like the best?

BTW, I absolutely plan on finishing this comp out this time!

LoL
 

needsomebeans

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I think im going to run some liberty haze by barneys farm. I hope it turns into a giant penis looking thing. I think im only going to sprout one seed. Is that totally not safe?
Maybe maybe not. I knocked one of my girls over twice last comp. she pulled through and she didn't make the final cut but it could have went the other way.
 

Alienwidow

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You can absolutely start seeds under a 200w led, people start them under 1000hps all the time, it's not a waste either. Light won't kill a seedling, heat will so if you are running hot just raise the light up or increase your air flow.

I have a seedling that's under 220ish watts of led right this second and it's just as happy as the ones under 55w. I'm doing a trial run to see if a seedling can tolerate the 1400+ ppms from my reservoir or if I will need to hand feed it for a while before auto feeding. So far so good.
Im just gonna guess and say i dont think 1400 ppm for a seedling is such a good idea. Maybe some handwatering might be better at first. But if thats what your gonna be running in the cup cup im ok with that ;)
 

Alienwidow

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Maybe maybe not. I knocked one of my girls over twice last comp. she pulled through and she didn't make the final cut but it could have went the other way.
:lol: ive already been testing my set up out for tipability. Its not looking very safe. Think i might try and mount it to something somehow in the next little while so i dont smash my riu cup cup winning plant. :p you picked what your going with yet or is going to be what looks the best outta the five at the deadline?
 

needsomebeans

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:lol: ive already been testing my set up out for tipability. Its not looking very safe. Think i might try and mount it to something somehow in the next little while so i dont smash my riu cup cup winning plant. :p you picked what your going with yet or is going to be what looks the best outta the five at the deadline?
I'll choose the tallest, fattest girl to dance with once they have all gave up their goods.
 

a senile fungus

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I'll choose the tallest, fattest girl to dance with once they have all gave up their goods.
I once read a beautiful simile, I can't recall it in it's entirety, but it went something like this: Imagine walking through a field of flowers, only walking in one direction and never turning back. As you walk through this field, you encounter flowers of all varieties, but as you pass them by they are never to be seen again. Love is when you find the most amazing flower you've seen thus far, and you keep it with you upon your journey. And although you may encounter even more beautiful plants with larger flowers later in your journey, walking through this field, you remain loyal and true to the choice that you've made.

That's kinda how this comp is.

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

:confused::confused::confused:

:bigjoint:
 

needsomebeans

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I once read a beautiful simile, I can't recall it in it's entirety, but it went something like this: Imagine walking through a field of flowers, only walking in one direction and never turning back. As you walk through this field, you encounter flowers of all varieties, but as you pass them by they are never to be seen again. Love is when you find the most amazing flower you've seen thus far, and you keep it with you upon your journey. And although you may encounter even more beautiful plants with larger flowers later in your journey, walking through this field, you remain loyal and true to the choice that you've made.

That's kinda how this comp is.

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

:confused::confused::confused:

:bigjoint:
I've tried that twice thus far. While walking through this metaphor known as life the first flower that caught my eye was a beautiful young thing that hadn't developed into womanhood and still to this day 20 years later still admits to that she is a bitch and things have to go her way. Divorce #1. The next one was as beautiful a woman as I have ever seen and in many ways remains my kryptonite to this day. She left my high and dry, broke, and hurt. Divorce #2. Takeaway= love and loyalty has gotten me absolutely nothing but grief and bullshit. It's also very expensive to play the love/loyalty paradigm. I'm going to find the biggest, ugliest bitch I can find, maximize her potential, and smoke the shit out of her!
 
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