question about H&G top booster application

mattisreal420

mattisreal420

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Every time I've used top booster in the past I would add all my nutrients, then top booster and adjust ec and ph, But I just read this on their website:
"First add the base nutrient to your container (e.g.: Soil A&B, A&B Hydro, Coco A&B). Adjust the EC- and pH-value of the nutrient container. Finally, add Top booster. Your nutrient container is ready for a first watering."

So do add everything then adjust ec as needed to target ec. or do I do as the site suggest and ads nutrients, adjust ec, add top booster then adjust ph? There pretty much saying don't worry about the ec of the top booster after I've added it, what's up with that.
I'm worried that the top booster will being my ec up, after I've adjusted everything. And I don't remember from my previous runs if top booster raises the ec alot.
 
CommercialGrow

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If you are religious about following EC then add all your nutes first including top boost and then check the EC. Top booster will definitely cause your EC to rise. If there is a specif EC you are targeting you would want the top booster included in this target EC.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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mattisreal420 said:
Every time I've used top booster in the past I would add all my nutrients, then top booster and adjust ec and ph, But I just read this on their website:
"First add the base nutrient to your container (e.g.: Soil A&B, A&B Hydro, Coco A&B). Adjust the EC- and pH-value of the nutrient container. Finally, add Top booster. Your nutrient container is ready for a first watering."

So do add everything then adjust ec as needed to target ec. or do I do as the site suggest and ads nutrients, adjust ec, add top booster then adjust ph? There pretty much saying don't worry about the ec of the top booster after I've added it, what's up with that.
I'm worried that the top booster will being my ec up, after I've adjusted everything. And I don't remember from my previous runs if top booster raises the ec alot.
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What i do is never use Top Booster. And id advise everyone that wants to don't. Sounds like a great name right? "Top Booster" Should call it burn booster, yellow me out booster.
 
CommercialGrow

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a mongo frog said:
What i do is never use Top Booster. And id advise everyone that wants to don't. Sounds like a great name right? "Top Booster" Should call it burn booster, yellow me out booster.
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No offense but if you are having issues with top booster you are not applying it correctly. Try revisiting your nutes schedule and re work the problem. House and Garden Top Boost will provide a dramatic impact to the final weight of the buds. Yellowing out can be caused by many issues like PH, pest, nutes, etc. If you do things correctly the top boost will not cause yellowing.
 
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a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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CommercialGrow said:
No offense but if you are having issues with top booster you are not applying it correctly. Try revisiting your nutes schedule and re work the problem. Top booster is essentially a bloom booster and when used properly will provide a dramatic impact to the final weight of the buds.
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Yea i know its a bloom booster. Something the hydro store guy told you its a must have. I have 5 litters fucking sitting here for the past 2 years. Im sure you know the price tag on that. Its a fucking waste of money bro. Trust me.
 
CommercialGrow

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CommercialGrow said:
No offense but if you are having issues with top booster you are not applying it correctly. Try revisiting your
a mongo frog said:
Yea i know its a bloom booster. Something the hydro store guy told you its a must have. I have 5 litters fucking sitting here for the past 2 years. Im sure you know the price tag on that. Its a fucking waste of money bro. Trust me.
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nutes schedule and re work the problem. Top booster is essentially a bloom booster and when used properly will provide a dramatic impact to the final weight of the buds.
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a mongo frog said:
Yea i know its a bloom booster. Something the hydro store guy told you its a must have. I have 5 litters fucking sitting here for the past 2 years. Im sure you know the price tag on that. Its a fucking waste of money bro. Trust me.
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Using bloom boosters can make a sixty pound room jump to an eighty pound room real quick. So spending $600 on a 5 gal jug of top boost more than justifys the cost. Even on small scale systems bloom boosters are a must if you want serious weight. Do you pull 1/2 lb plants? Then listen up Jr.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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CommercialGrow said:
Using bloom boosters can make a sixty pound room jump to an eighty pound room real quick. So spending $600 on a 5 gal jug of top boost more than justifys the cost. Even on small scale systems bloom boosters are a must if you want serious weight. Do you pull 1/2 lb plants? Then listen up Jr.
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No i don't pull half pound plants. I veg for 22-23 days bro. Are you looking for a dick measuring contest? Cuz ill play if you want. Im man enough to say you have a bigger dick then if thats the case.
 
cap master

cap master

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I just use fish emulsion molasses and lime don't use all these products that cost a fortune for 5 part feeding cycles and root boosters call me a noob but I think its a waste of cash as well. plus idk what those chems actually are?
 
Grandpapy

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I see a 10-15% increase but lose all photo shooting opportunities.:lol:

Trimming a pretty bud is more satisfying for me.
 
cap master

cap master

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yeah I got almost a 1/4oz off this 3 yrs ago and its a fraction of your lady compared to her this is garbage and was fluffy as shit
 
CommercialGrow

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Grandpapy said:
I see a 10-15% increase but lose all photo shooting opportunities.:lol:

Trimming a pretty bud is more satisfying for me.
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Try running your lights higher when using boosters. Sometimes the intense light will cause bleaching, fox tailing, burnt tops etc when using boosters. And depending on your grow style peeps have been known to sacrifice some top weight for over all weight in the canopy. So don't get too scared leaving the lights were they are.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Bud XL
Top Booster
Top Shooter
Shooting powder

Just looked at the H&G web page. First time in a cpl of years.
SHADY comes directly to mind as NO NPK values are given and no separate or advanced information on any product!
No label or ingr. are listed for anything!
No links to that information.

Looked at the schedule and I'll bet if you follow that with the P&K piling on that way.....You'll get yellowing quick!
You don't NEED boosters to reach a plants potential......for the most strains I do nothing but water my soil (water only soil)

I do "tickle" the P&K a little.....I use single organic nutrients and do a specific P&K value once a week at 6 & 7 and stop...Sometimes 7 & 8 strain dependent for average finish times.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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CommercialGrow said:
Using bloom boosters can make a sixty pound room jump to an eighty pound room real quick. So spending $600 on a 5 gal jug of top boost more than justifys the cost. Even on small scale systems bloom boosters are a must if you want serious weight. Do you pull 1/2 lb plants? Then listen up Jr.
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I don't use bloom boosters and I pull pounders. Healthy plants, FTW!
 
Sativied

Sativied

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Dr. Who said:
Bud XL
Top Booster
Top Shooter
Shooting powder

Just looked at the H&G web page. First time in a cpl of years.
SHADY comes directly to mind as NO NPK values are given and no separate or advanced information on any product!
No label or ingr. are listed for anything!
No links to that information.

Looked at the schedule and I'll bet if you follow that with the P&K piling on that way.....You'll get yellowing quick!
You don't NEED boosters to reach a plants potential......for the most strains I do nothing but water my soil (water only soil)

I do "tickle" the P&K a little.....I use single organic nutrients and do a specific P&K value once a week at 6 & 7 and stop...Sometimes 7 & 8 strain dependent for average finish times.
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House & Garden was one of the most reputable plant nutrients in NL. The lack of info is surprising though, I expected that would improve now they moved to the US...

Bud xl is 4-0-1 (note the N)
Top booster is Pk13/14 + Fe but with npk of roughly 0-10-11.
Top shooter (liquid) and shooting powder is 0-39-25 roughly.

I have used the entire line including shooting powder without premature yellowing. AB is complete though and I don't use anything but that and some sillica nowadays.
 
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