Why no red COB's?

nevergoodenuf

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These aren't the duet, but 4 of their Luna300 over a 4'+ X 8' area is looking excellent. I have been to their location, there are still new to the grow lights but have been very open to changes and listening to our input.IMG_20160208_233019969.jpg
 

rob333

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Our next line of COBs will produce UV and the current materials used to convert into red spectrum can't be paired with UV. So we're looking for new materials at the moment.
don't u love how ya post some thing about a companny they over look it and sad thing was if they replyed back to you the may of got some1 spending a few hundgy on there leds ;)
 

Red1966

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Ok, my understanding is that there are basically 2 main colored LEDs available, blue around 450, from which white is created by adding filters, and red around 620, which other shades of red are created from by adding filters. So if you can make a white cob from blues in a bunch of different variations, why cant they make a red cob similarly, using the red LED's? Maybe Im way off base on this.

For example go to the BML custom site and drag a 3500k white onto the bar, youll see its listed as 25% efficient and it peaks at about 620nm, because of the filters used to create the white light at this desired spectrum. These are created using 450ish nm blues which are originally in the high 30% efficiency range, and they still retain some of the initial spike at this color range. If you drag a 615 red onto the bar, youll see that its 44% efficient. So to create a broad spectrum in the red range, couldnt they just create a cob using this very efficient red, with some filters applied to create a broader spectrum range cob, which would be more desirable AND more efficient in the process, while easier to use than individual stars and significantly more efficient than going with a extremely filtered white, like a 2700k, to get a good boost in that nm range? Maybe Im tripping but this seems feasible in my warped sense of reality. Less heat, more output, better spectrum seems like a win, win, win...
http://www.bmlcustom.com/custom-led-strip/
LEDs use different materials to get different spectra, not filters. Filters block light, so counter productive.
 

rob333

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just like the weedbulbs guy gets all up in ya face with how good they are telling people weed bulbs can out perform hps lol then u go send me some ill test em for ya never here from the guy again
 

URSA LED

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just like the weedbulbs guy gets all up in ya face with how good they are telling people weed bulbs can out perform hps lol then u go send me some ill test em for ya never here from the guy again
I am sorry you weren't chosen as a product tester. We only had limited samples.
 

Rahz

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We are able to measure ppfd readings at the COB level using our Dome Lab which measures a bunch of other readings, take a look at our Duet 2400 spec sheet.
However, at the fixture level, which encompasses distance and other variables, we need a differentt system.
Thanks. 1 umol/J is what I'm seeing in the datasheet for the red channels at nominal current. Assuming the all red cobs will operate at similar efficiency they will also be around 1 umol/J.
 
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