EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread
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Elwood Diggler
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you want a republican who'll raise taxes 11 times??
ttystikk
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It's okay, they only raise taxes on poor people.
Fogdog
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Teabillies, I like that.
Elwood Diggler
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Elwood Diggler
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as far as conservative success stories are there any? any policy successes?
people in kansas, wisconsin and michigan are going to throw them the fuck out.
face facts. conservatism is dead. it hasn't worked anywhere. biggest claim the conservatives can make is they've shown the intelligence level of their supporters as well as how many racists vote.
the babbling chimp brigade
people in kansas, wisconsin and michigan are going to throw them the fuck out.
face facts. conservatism is dead. it hasn't worked anywhere. biggest claim the conservatives can make is they've shown the intelligence level of their supporters as well as how many racists vote.
the babbling chimp brigade
ttystikk
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For being dead, it's rather well funded. Ideologically it may not make sense, but that isn't its purpose;
Conservatism's mission in life and politics is all about shifting costs off business, by any means necessary; witness collapsing bridges and lead contaminated water systems, among many other egregious examples of the rich taking everything for themselves- except for the shaft.
- Tax breaks for business and wealthy 'job creators'
- Subsidies to businesses
- Blatant handouts to political supporters, corporate and otherwise.
Elwood Diggler
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how many did nancy reagan's "just say no" imprison? the nation got flooded with cocaine during reagan's presidency.
he was sleeping, dealing drugs for weapons, raising taxes 11 times (8 times while gov of california) or running the country via astrology
good plan worth repeating. we need another old fashioned conservative
NLXSK1
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Poor people dont pay taxes...
Padawanbater2
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Poor people pay a larger percentage of their income in taxes than rich people
ttystikk
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...by a lot.
NLXSK1
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Good. They take a much larger percentage of the benefits.
Padawanbater2
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Imagine that
What happens to poor people in your fantasy land where social welfare programs don't exist? Do they just lie down in the streets and die and let the well-off have their own little happy society all to themselves? Without social welfare programs providing poor people a tiny thread of relief, they'd be committing crimes to survive. Is that what you want? The very thing you wish to abolish protects you from the chaos that would engulf society if you got your way.
'Stupid' simply isn't enough..
NLXSK1
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I never said social welfare shouldnt or wouldnt exist. The federal ones should be eliminated though. If a state or states need certain programs then it is up to those states to provide them.
There are plenty of private sources of charity as well from Churches and other private organizations.
I want most people to have jobs rather than handouts.
NLXSK1
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One of the funny things about this conversation is that Bill Clinton was actually one of the people behind cutting massive amounts of welfare. Remember? he cut the length of time you could be on it and they nicknamed it workfare.
I am in favor of it even when a Democrat does it. Imagine that!!!
I am in favor of it even when a Democrat does it. Imagine that!!!
Uncle Ben
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Not true. For starts 43% of Americans don't pay taxes. None of that group includes the "rich".
Here's a recent report by the IRS. It reflects that "the rich" pay 49% of income tax collected. Yes, the most returns filed are below that upper bracket so they can get huge tax breaks. They wouldn't if they did not file. As the chart shows there are few people that make $250,000 + in this country, the biggest group being in the $50K - 100K bracket & the lowest bracket.
NLXSK1
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He wont believe you, it would fuck up his slogan....Not true. For starts 43% of Americans don't pay taxes. None of that group includes the "rich".
Here's a recent report by the IRS. It reflects that "the rich" pay 49% of income tax collected. Yes, the most returns filed are below that upper bracket so they can get huge tax breaks. They wouldn't if they did not file. As the chart shows there are few people that make $250,000 + in this country, the biggest group being in the $50K - 100K bracket & the lowest bracket.
Uncle Ben
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Such is the liberal mindset - denial. First there's the mantra, "I don't believe, you show me, where's the link?" Then when you give them proof they bash the source, the messenger.
