umm.. best light distance from center of bulb to foliage?

NebulousPLM

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Thank you, I consider that an honor. Pics?




I'm training them to grow outward and wrap around the cage like vines. I think I left the light too low, I definitely forgot that I should probably raise it once a week, or so. so upward growth stopped for a bit. Since this pictures, I've raised the bulb about 4-6 inches.
One problem I'm running into though is bud regions start to grow though the chicken wire (which, like you said, is a PITA).

I'm wondering if I should start to cut away at the fan leaves that are pressing against the screen so that light can reach the back of the canopy easier?

Right on Nebulous, Nice to see another vert grower. Cheers.
I appreciate it! Let's hope this goes well! Haha
 

ttystikk

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I really had bad luck with my plants behind the screen. I was thinking you were just using it to protect the lamp.

Add another lamp instead of just moving that one up.

Don't cut away fan leaves until there's bud to replace them.
 

NebulousPLM

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What problems did you run into with the chicken wire?
I'm worried that my buds may grow into it, somehow. I'm not sure if that's even possible, but that's what it sort of looks like.

I'm limited on my wattage. We're running 3600w and haven't turned a profit since we started (not due to lack of meds, but due to re-investment) - so we're gonna wait to get the wattage situation figured out most likely lol
 

ttystikk

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What problems did you run into with the chicken wire?
I'm worried that my buds may grow into it, somehow. I'm not sure if that's even possible, but that's what it sort of looks like.

I'm limited on my wattage. We're running 3600w and haven't turned a profit since we started (not due to lack of meds, but due to re-investment) - so we're gonna wait to get the wattage situation figured out most likely lol
Wattage is not the place to economize if you're trying to make money growing!

I deliberately tried to grow my buds through the wire and it was a nightmare. If that's where the light is, that's where they'll grow.
 

m4s73r

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Imo for the size of the plants you have you should remove that screen and just grow them like half xmas trees, cut the backsides off them and let em grow. Your loosing light with that much wire. Again just my opinion.
 

ttystikk

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Imo for the size of the plants you have you should remove that screen and just grow them like half xmas trees, cut the backsides off them and let em grow. Your loosing light with that much wire. Again just my opinion.
Also that mesh is tiny. Bigger holes in the screen is MUCH better, not for light reasons but for training the plants.
 

NebulousPLM

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Alright, so dealing with what I have presently is there anything that you guys suggest doing this run?

Take the chicken wire off & cut the entire back sides off them!?

I feel like that's a lot of plant to cut off. It'll recover alright?:|
 

m4s73r

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Yes to the wire.
as for cutting the back off, it depends on where your at in the grow, if your still under veg then yeah they will bounce back. If your in bloom then it will depend how far your in.
first 10 days, then you should be good, also if this is where your at, id raise that light up so that plant grow up some more. then as they end stretch move the light back down into the donut.
if its after that, then just take the smallest shoots that are growing away from the light and any big fan leaves. then you may want to stake the plant to keep it from falling over
 

JD_85

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does any one here defoliate when the sun leafs are acting like " self positioning, bud blockers"?. if it was a horazontal grow i wouldnt even dare bring up this controversy?
 

NebulousPLM

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does any one here defoliate when the sun leafs are acting like " self positioning, bud blockers"?. if it was a horazontal grow i wouldnt even dare bring up this controversy?
I defoliate, like once a week with my horizontal girls.
Which is why I asked about removing the fan leaves to let other buds get light.
I'm at about week 3.5 right now, so I'm gonna hold off on removing the backs of the plants, maybe next time..

Vert isn't so bad so far. They're keeping up with the 1k pretty well, in terms of bud size.
 

m4s73r

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does any one here defoliate when the sun leafs are acting like " self positioning, bud blockers"?. if it was a horazontal grow i wouldnt even dare bring up this controversy?
My opinion on this is proly a little misguided, but i think it really comes down to your light intensity. if you have a weaker light that wont penetrate then yes remove fan leaves. With a strong enough light its unneccessary. Now i only back this up on the idea of what i have read from so many debates on this subject. the ones that do and see results seem to have a smaller light then those that claim its a waste of time/bad for plant.

And then you add in technique. And depending on who you ask there are several way to do it. Be it only in veg and once after stretch in bloom, to veg only, to bloom only, to keeping the plant in a state that it has no fan leaves with more then 1 inch of stem.

Then add in method. some will say yes in hydro or soil, other will say yes to hydro only or soil only.
Then add strain type. Some strains do well with it, other dont.

See where this argument can lead.

I always advise this. Do you know your strain? If you have mastered a strain and know how it grows, what makes it happy, and produce, then sure play around with defoliation. See if the strain can handle it. Depending on yoru light intisity, see if its even necessary. With a 600 nice and tight in, it may be a waste of time.

I can say i defoliate. I do remove a few of the biggest fan leaves from the front of the plant if they're covering a big bud site. I never do more then 5-10 leaves most of the time. I also run my screen behind the plant now so i dont have to shave the back side of it. it just flattens itself out to the screen ive noticed. Used to run screen in front, however i never weaved it in. i just used it to spread out the plant. More of a support.
 

JD_85

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A1 my friend. Looking really good. How far along are those ones
i cant rember, i usually keep track but my boiler shxt the bed, so i had to move a ton of stuff so the heater guy could bring the new one in. and i lost all info, i want to say i switched the lights on 1-1-16 but not sure.
 
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