Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

CB7guy

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StinkBud what line of boticare line are you using? the PBP or the kind line? i know the mix for the PBP but what about the kind line? how many milliliters do you recommend for the kind line ,, i tried the feed schedule but ppms are only at like 350-500,

i have 2 ppm meters , 2 different readings,, need calibration solution
little help pls :hug:
 

CB7guy

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found it... not mine its stinks-----VVVVVV

On one of my rooms I'm running my classic formula. In my other room I'm running the new Botanicare Kind line of nutrients. How are they working you ask? Pretty fucking good actually! I'll post some pictures later but rest assured, everything is going bonkers as usual!

Okay so here's the deal. Botanicare Kind is a two part formula. You have the Base and then you either add the Bloom or Grow formula depending on the stage you're at. ATTENTION!Do not mix the nutrients together ahead of time. It's okay to do that with the regular Botanicare line but if you do it with the Kind line of nutrients you are fucking up big time! And if you're wondering...yes, I fucked up big time... lol I mixed the two together and everything turned to a milky caramel colored shit. At first I'm thinking, maybe that's the way it's supposed to look, fuck if I know! So I poured it into the res and it looked like those little water-filled, glass, snowballs that you shake up and watch the snow fall on a little fucking Santa or whatever. So basically, fuck me. All the white specs were pieces of calcium. So I had to drain the fucking res again and start over from scratch.

What I did was read the instructions. I know, it hurts but fuck it, someone's got to do it. I figured I had about 23 gallons of water or so and just did the math. I'd give you the numbers but it changes every week. It's easier to just read the back of the jug. For example, at flower week 1 they suggest using 10ml of Bloom per gallon of water. So with 23 gallons use 230ml of Bloom. Just pour it directly into the res and mix well. Then they recommend using 12ml per gallon of Base. Which comes out to about 276ml. Every week I add more Bloom and less Base. The PPM comes in around 1000PPM. Early veg stage starts at around 600PPM and slowly goes up. Like I say, it's all in the Botanicare Feed Schedule.

You know this thread is basically a result of me fucking up every way possible to man. It's kind of been a hobby of mine... You guys get to learn from all my mistakes. Which one was this...fuckup #234 Don't mix Botanicare Kind Nutes together. Check...
 

questiondj42

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So I have the best problem possible, I think. My veg plants are about 2 weeks out from transfer into the bloom tent. The root masses on the plants has become a greater diameter than the hole for the netpot. When I go to transfer them, I'm not sure I can get the plants out without causing damage to the root mass. Is this a normal problem? Or is this a result of starting these as seedlings and being forced to use rapid rooters?
 

StinkBud

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So I have the best problem possible, I think. My veg plants are about 2 weeks out from transfer into the bloom tent. The root masses on the plants has become a greater diameter than the hole for the netpot. When I go to transfer them, I'm not sure I can get the plants out without causing damage to the root mass. Is this a normal problem? Or is this a result of starting these as seedlings and being forced to use rapid rooters?
It's okay if you damage the roots a little. Just make sure you wash off any broken roots. You don't want the damaged roots dying and fucking everything up.
 

questiondj42

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It's okay if you damage the roots a little. Just make sure you wash off any broken roots. You don't want the damaged roots dying and fucking everything up.
Great news. Thanks for the info.

Finally started building the flower rails. I really like how clean the fence posts look.
 

AKGrowAreo

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This weekend I broke my record using the SB method with just over 39 oz from 6 plants.

Trinity Kush yielded 19 oz from 3 plants, Cotton Candy Cane yielded 16 zips from 2 plants (one had 9 oz and the other had 7 oz), and my one Blackberry OG plant only yielded about 4 oz.

OMG the Blackberry OG smells and tastes exactly like actual blackberries! I have never smelled or tasted anything like it.

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Gertsbud

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I run this nutrient formula for vegetative growth:

Botanicare Nutrients:

126ML Cal-Mag Plus
180ML Liquid Karma
540ML Pure Bend Pro Vegetative Formula

I start at 1500 PPM and bring it up to 2000 PPM by the second week of veg. I change the nutrients every 3 weeks with each new crop.

I adjust my PH to 5.8
is this for 18 gallons?
love this thread thank you,
 

AKGrowAreo

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It is not based on gallons.

You mix up your nutes in a gallon jug and then add a little at a time until you have reached your desired ppm in your reservoir.

You need to have a meter to measure the ppm, so if you don't already have one, buy one ASAP. Also, @StinkBud is the man and the master, but he likes to run his nutes a little hotter than I do personally (I am am a cheap ass, lol). Anyway, I run my nutes closer to the 1000 ppm mark. I also run a slightly different ratio of the nutes and a few additives with great success.

750ml PBPG, 250ml CalMag, and 200ml Humic Acid (LK). Before I start adding my base nute solution as mentioned above I add 2 ml per gallon of Hydroguard which will help keep your roots extra healthy and I add 2ml per gallon of Silica Blast which helps keep my stems super strong and healthy. After that I start adding my nute solution a little at a time until I get to around 1000 ppm. I have never had any signs of underfeeding with any of my strains at 1000ppm.

When it comes time to flower I add 250 ml of sweet to the recipe above and replace the PBPG with PBPB (bloom). I also increase the Silica Blast to 4 ml per gallon.

This works for me pretty damn well, I am sure there are better formulas though, eg the @superstoner1 formula that many many have had great success with, jut a little too complex for me personally.

Holler at me if you need any further help. I have been using the SB method much longer than I have been active on RUI.
 

questiondj42

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I'm using Dynagrow and I'm finding that 700ppm in the veg tent is giving me tip burn. So I'm backing it off. I'll probably run 500-700ppm in flower. Depending on how the plants respond.
 

AKGrowAreo

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I'm using Dynagrow and I'm finding that 700ppm in the veg tent is giving me tip burn. So I'm backing it off. I'll probably run 500-700ppm in flower. Depending on how the plants respond.
How do you lime the Dyna so far? Any full harvests from it yet, and if so how did the buds taste???
 

questiondj42

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How do you lime the Dyna so far? Any full harvests from it yet, and if so how did the buds taste???
I've used it for a full harvest, in DWC, but didn't really know what I was doing and ended up with a sub-par product. I also ran Foliage Pro all the way through. This time around, I'm using RO instead of tap, and it's potent. 500-700ppm seems to be the sweet spot with this stuff. I'm going to try a 50/50 mix of FP and Bloom in Flower. I'm so happy with the line I use it in my vegetable garden.
 

AKGrowAreo

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Stinkbud,

Do you have a video of the veg assembly up? I saw the frame assembly one, but I think that's for flower?
Im not sure about a video, but you shouldn't need one really. As for the veg unit, its basically just a double decker cloner. Just build a @StinkBud cloner as per the instructions in the ebook (buy it if you haven't already) and then set it on top of another tub and drill some holes in the bottom of the top container (root chamber) and through the lid of the bottom container (res) to let the water run through the root chamber and into the res. Run a piece of 1/2" PVC down all the way into the res and connect it to your sprayer manifold in the root chamber. Simple shit bro that anybody could do.

I don't like the ebook cloner personally because I don't like air stones and because the double decker works f-ing great. Mainly cause I veg my plants extra long and they need as much help as much space as possible in the root chamber. I am always nervous about roots chillin' in the water even if there is an air stone, so I would suggest building the double decker.

Holler if you need more help.
 

AKGrowAreo

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I've used it for a full harvest, in DWC, but didn't really know what I was doing and ended up with a sub-par product. I also ran Foliage Pro all the way through. This time around, I'm using RO instead of tap, and it's potent. 500-700ppm seems to be the sweet spot with this stuff. I'm going to try a 50/50 mix of FP and Bloom in Flower. I'm so happy with the line I use it in my vegetable garden.
cool...let me know how it turns out. Happy growing!:weed:
 

letdown shifty

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Wishing everyone the best, hoping your growing is treating you all right with lots of fun. Have a big move in the next couple weeks, so I've been super busy packing. Uploading a couple identical photos with 1 variation, name the difference. The 3 gals are day 6 flush, and will be cut any day now. Thread incoming in about a month with my double story garage build out.
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AKGrowAreo

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Wishing everyone the best, hoping your growing is treating you all right with lots of fun. Have a big move in the next couple weeks, so I've been super busy packing. Uploading a couple identical photos with 1 variation, name the difference. The 3 gals are day 6 flush, and will be cut any day now. Thread incoming in about a month with my double story garage build out.
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Looking good @letdown shifty! I moved a month ago with my garden at week 6 and it was stressful as fuck but we pulled it off with out any major issues. Basically I stripped my tent of everything but the plants, and lights and got a friend on each corner of the tent and we lifted the whole fuckin' thing into the back of a uhaul. Just barely fit. My tent was 6'8", my garage door was 6'9" and the door to the uhaul was only 6'8.5". I am glad its over with, but wanted to reassure you it can be done successfully. They were only with out water and light for about 30 min.

I just pulled off my biggest harvest in this system with 39 zips from 6 plants. The biggest of the plants pulled 9 oz by it self! Booya Im on cloud 9! I bet you are looking at least 18 oz off your current harvest cause its looking great and you vegged so long. What are you guessing on yield?
 

letdown shifty

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Those 3 gals really only vegged for 5 weeks after roots popped. Also whole grow is going to be shutdown minus 7 clones and 1 huge vegging gal, while I build out & setup the new area. My guess on the 3 gals is right around 18 at the least, they are dense colas. Fyi it's 2" pvc for anyone who can't tell. This photo was almost 2 weeks ago, or the single vegging girl and clones. She's roughly 4' with a 2" stalk right now, gonna have to cut lid in order to move it to flower.mir_20160208_143427.jpg
 

AKGrowAreo

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Those 3 gals really only vegged for 5 weeks after roots popped. Also whole grow is going to be shutdown minus 7 clones and 1 huge vegging gal, while I build out & setup the new area. My guess on the 3 gals is right around 18 at the least, they are dense colas. Fyi it's 2" pvc for anyone who can't tell. This photo was almost 2 weeks ago, or the single vegging girl and clones. She's roughly 4' with a 2" stalk right now, gonna have to cut lid in order to move it to flower.View attachment 3610505
Best of luck on the move. Def would have been easier if I had just shut it down, but wasn't an option for me. Glad to hear you're doing good man. I am about to ditch the tent cause I am building a 12' by 12' room. Cant wait!!!
 
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