Schooled me... is there really no level to your pretentious bullshit. Another false claim with no valid arguments to back it up. Just more petty attempts to discredit the one who discredited your nonsense. Gavita folder... Ironic... since all you got is Cree's efficiency graph. Everytime I point out your extreme bias and misleading hyped info you guys meltdown, resort to personal attacks, report like a bunch of butthurt bitches once you upset yourself enough, get the thread locked, and then pretend you schooled me.
I read that same discussion, as I've pointed out in the past I actually know who supra parroted. What is exactly is your point or claim that refutes what I said? Do you think that whazzup losing a discussion and having a case of teacher's curse makes you and your bibled comparisons any less nonsense? As I explained before, someone else being wrong doesn't justify or balance out your bullshitting lol.. Wtf is wrong with you kids... No, me considering whazzup one of many reliable sources of info and he losing that discussion doesn't change the nonsense I refuted in this thread and others into facts.
Did you know they also recommend to replace the reflector every year? Don't pretend I'm some gavita fan to reflect your fan boy behavior on me. I grow with a 1 bulb 600w old magnetic ballast. Admittely I have a "designed by gavita" reflector. It's illegal to grow here you know...
Regardless, you are grabbing my comments about reflection grossly out of context. The whole reason I mentioned them is because intellectual honesty demands I mention that myself even if the list I replied to did not.
""reflector losses aside" "some reflector losses" is far from the truth"
Nope, those are true. Reflector losses aside... Nothing in your parroted results and immature behavior makes that any less far from the truth. In case of the second, you basically create a strawman. 19% (if true still not that 20% I've been hearing in choir..., inflated) is some reflector losses... don't pretend I included a too low number all based on that discussion and not actually the words I quoted.
I replied to examples comparing light sources... already incomplete, adding essential info. When discussing the output of a phillips DE in comparison to led the exact reflectors losses are unknown but I figured it would be fair to at least mention it obviously plays a role. Let's not pretend the lenses and reflectors used with cobs don't reduce efficiency and are free.
So your big words about those quotes being far from the truth is just more bullshit. All you achieved now with your desperate and unsubstaniated attempts to make me a bullshitter like you is showing what a biased bullshitter you are. Again. As usual.
The slanderous greed comment is just douchebaggery... Again desperate to discredit an authority on hps and through you ledlogic than me too. Replacing that bulb every nearly 2 years is very reasonable. Plenty of growers prefer once per year. Obviously that 4% makes enough difference for commercial growers to get a new $100 bulb. As I've said before in similar wording, it's weird having to school a led fan on the importance of 4% efficiency... Let's leave the personal attacks to people who aren't even here out of it. Someone as unprofessional and immatur as you should not be judging people like him.
Do you realize that according to your own ledlogic process you are logically full of shit yourself? Think about it...