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PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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AquariusPanta said:
Oh, an offer? I read it as a suggestion. Are you and Nick tight?
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Not drinking buddies tight :-P........just been emailing each other since the first gen next light days, told him the xml2 sucked and should go with cxa, lol......he's more
about small diodes spread out deal. Cool guy, even with his Osram/Philips hate.....ha

He's interested in testing a cob fixture in the sphere, said doubts anyone would send him one......wouldn't skew the results imo, he's pretty honest about his own fixtures limitations.
 
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HATORI HANZO

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OneHitDone said:
It sure seems like Aquarium Pants is having trouble finding his own way.
Lets see - Tasty LED case color/spacing, PLC beveled corner design, Johnson Grow Lights cob Spacing on larger unit - grabbing a little here and there hoping for some left over crumbs of the cob market pie. :lol:
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As long as the lights grow oily dense dope, I don't care who's design he borrowed. I originally wanted the timbers but I just can't justify 1100 for 400 watts.
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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PSUAGRO. said:
Not drinking buddies tight :-P........just been emailing each other since the first gen next light days, told him the xml2 sucked and should go with cxa, lol......he's more
about small diodes spread out deal. Cool guy, even with his Osram/Philips hate.....ha

He's interested in testing a cob fixture in the sphere, said doubts anyone would send him one......wouldn't skew the results imo, he's pretty honest about his own fixtures limitations.
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In that case, I'll consider the offer, brother :wink:

Once everything cools down over here, you'll be hearing from me.and together we'll look into this matter thoroughly. Thank you for the offer, Psu.
 
Hamuk

Hamuk

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After reading posts for about 3hrs I'm still lost on even what type of light I'm going to go with, heat is definitely an issue around here
Building a 4x8
1500 max on lighting funds
 
Hamuk

Hamuk

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Btw currently using a DE-HPS in a 5x5, way too much heat at 100% manageable but I'd rather not have that heat blast, it's normally over 90℉ out
 
Greengenes707

Greengenes707

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PSUAGRO. said:
Looks like the swiss are jumping on the cree cxb(3070) train :wink:

http://www.leoledgrow.us/en/models?utm_source=leoLED+Newsletter&utm_campaign=1924961f15-leoLED_20162_25_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_840dc70c42-1924961f15-75380905

2.5ppf/w!?........idk about that
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frica said:
2ppf/w seems about right with CXB3070 @ 30 watts each or so.
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I can't tell if they are using 3K or 3500K.
But let's go with 3K for an example. So AD bin at ~30w each...min of 166lm/w with a LER of 325 and a QER of 4.87.
166/325=51% efficient.

4.87µmols x 51% = 2.4837µmols/j. That is a minimum performance per the spec sheet. 3500K will be higher with a bin jump.
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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Greengenes707 said:
I can't tell if they are using 3K or 3500K.
But let's go with 3K for an example. So AD bin at ~30w each...min of 166lm/w with a LER of 325 and a QER of 4.87.
166/325=51% efficient.

4.87µmols x 51% = 2.4837µmols/j. That is a minimum performance per the spec sheet. 3500K will be higher with a bin jump.
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Thanks for the info friend...........but does the spec sheet translate in reality? Drivers(s), fan(s), fan drivers, reflectors, secondary lenses, pmma splash covers, diffusers,etc.

2.5 umol/j is very good.......let's all chip in and buy a sphere for RIU testing ! Lol
 
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kmog33

kmog33

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PSUAGRO. said:
Thanks for the info friend...........but does the spec sheet translate in reality? Drivers(s), fan(s), fan drivers, reflectors, secondary lenses, pmma splash covers, diffusers,etc.

2.5 umol/j is very good.......let's all chip in and buy a sphere for RIU testing ! Lol
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Look legit.

They were testing with 4 panels over a 3x3. So 500 watts in a square meter. Which, IMO 500 hid watts is a lot of cob power for a 3x3.


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kmog33

kmog33

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FranJan said:
IDK but Fluence seems to be worried about marketing their image and how pretty their website is, but that's just me. IDK who said it, but when it comes to LED grow lights you can get a real good picture of how good the panel is by how nice the website is. The nicer the site the shittier the panel it seems. LOL Yeah I know, it's a terrible way to judge a panel's performance but goddamit just like a positive Throckmorton's sign it's right 9 x out of 10. :)

Well enough of fractured hips + penises here's another panel that someone needs to throw a plant under. I guess these were mentioned in January but there's a link to all the data you mathamagicians love ;).

Luxtheon Lighting Corporation Unveils Hybrid Horticultural Lighting with LED and Plasma Technology
http://www.ledsmagazine.com/ugc/2016/02/16/luxtheon-lighting-corporation-unveils-industry-first-hybrid-grow-light-featuring-led-plasma-technol.html
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SAN DIEGO, CA) – Luxtheon Lighting Corporation – Manufacturer of intelligent Plasma & LED lighting fixtures for industrial & commercial use – is excited to announce the Medusa Grow Light, the industry’s 1st hybrid plasma and LED horticultural lighting fixture, providing full control of the light spectrum throughout the horticulture process. Featuring Luxtheon’s SolidFusion Technology, the Medusa grow light combines a high output 470 watt plasma lamp and two true full spectrum 50 watt blue LEDs to maximize product yield. Controls on the fixture allow growers to switch the LEDs on and off, as well as adjust the plasma spectrum between ‘Vegetation’ and ‘Flower’ stages. This is achieved by tuning the intensity of heat the plasma lamp emits between 20 and 100 percent.



http://luxtheon.com/grow-light/
http://luxtheon.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Spectrum-Analysis-Data.zip

Specifications
  • PPFD (380 to 399nm): 10.745 μmol/m²s “Ultra Violet”
  • PPFD (400 to 700nm): 816.34 μmol/m²s “Visible Spectrum”
  • PPFD (701 to 780nm): 126.16 μmol/m²s “Infrared”
  • Illuminance: 8,350 to 47,627 Lux
  • CRI: 85 to 98
  • CCT: 3,198 to 7,056K
  • Voltage: 90 to 264V AC
  • Amps: 5.58A @ 114V
  • Wattage: 92 to 620 Watts
  • Frequency: 50/60Hz
  • Dimensions: 36.1 x 12 x 7 In.
  • Weight: 43.8 lbs.
  • Operating Temp: -30 to 122 F
  • UL Listed Components
  • Damp Location Friendly
  • Optics (120°): Specular Reflector (Plasma), Direct Emission (LED)
  • Cover: 1/8 Inch Clear Tempered Glass
  • Distribution: 4’ x 4’ @ 18 Inches High
  • Lamp: 470W Plasma Lamp @ 3,000K
  • LED: (2) 50W Full Spectrum Emitters @ 5,600K
  • Lifetime: 50,000 Hours (Plasma), 100,000 Hours (LED)
  • Plasma Lamp Access Panel
  • Position: Pointing Down
  • Housing: Lightweight Steel Cover, Aluminum Internal Chassis
  • Finish: Marine Grade Polyester Powder Coat
  • Plasma EMI: Wire Mesh Shield
  • 9.7’ Detachable Power Cord
  • End Caps with Fans or 6" Ducts (Both Options Included)
  • Built-In Power Outlet
  • Warranty: 3 Years
  • Designed, Manufactured and Assembled in the USA
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40k Lux seems really low for 620 watts.


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Greengenes707

Greengenes707

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PSUAGRO. said:
Thanks for the info friend...........but does the spec sheet translate in reality? Drivers(s), fan(s), fan drivers, reflectors, secondary lenses, pmma splash covers, etc.

2.5 umol/j is very good.......let's all chip in and buy a sphere for RIU testing ! Lol
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Ya. System efficiency will be lower. Passive helps it no loss to fans and their shitty power supplies but temps could make or break it...no idea of Tc. It has not reflectors really and no secondary lens.

But for all lights, not just this one, many times chip efficiency is stated. Like how a HID bulb states it's PPF. Then with your hood, ballast, and possibly glass...will be lower. Granted LED's are selling the whole system...so it's is expected to show that I guess. But I wouldn't call them scam artist for talking about the great chips they use.
Glass is interesting. You can get damn near 100% transmittance. That could be applied to either HID or LED's.
Yes...a sphere. I would throw a cx300 no question. I have new improved stuff that has been in the cert process and of course the sphere is part of it. $$$$ and time, when it's done it will be more than public.
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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Greengenes707 said:
Ya. System efficiency will be lower. Passive helps it no loss to fans and their shitty power supplies but temps could make or break it...no idea of Tc. It has not reflectors really and no secondary lens.

But for all lights, not just this one, many times chip efficiency is stated. Like how a HID bulb states it's PPF. Then with your hood, ballast, and possibly glass...will be lower. Granted LED's are selling the whole system...so it's is expected to show that I guess. But I wouldn't call them scam artist for talking about the great chips they use.
Glass is interesting. You can get damn near 100% transmittance. That could be applied to either HID or LED's.
Yes...a sphere. I would throw a cx300 no question. I have new improved stuff that has been in the cert process and of course the sphere is part of it. $$$$ and time, when it's done it will be more than public.
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Was more of a general concern than the Leo lights specifically.

I know the money involved in these test, and to finally see some real cxb data will be awesome......I wanna personally thank you for that!

Always been a great contributor here since the tag days.

Be safe grower
 
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