elksprings
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should I or shouldn't I I have read that there is no need. So that's why I'm here to get some the right information
Decarbing?
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MickFoster
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If you are going to cook with it then I would suggest decarbing if you want the full potential.
BobBitchen
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Decarb for edibles - yes...
https://skunkpharmresearch.com/decarboxylation/
https://skunkpharmresearch.com/decarboxylation/
qwizoking
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Decarbing is the only way youll have appreciable levels of thc cbd etc in the brain.
When smoked, enough gets decarbed cleanly to provide an enjoyable experience.. if any other route is intended it must be decarbed.
As a general rule for a compound to cross the blood brain barrier it must have a polar surface area less than 60 angstroms. Some will cross up to about 70 but not efficiently.
Thca has a psa of 66.. thc about 30
Cbda has a psa of 77...cbd ~40
The lower the temp used to decarb the better btw
When smoked, enough gets decarbed cleanly to provide an enjoyable experience.. if any other route is intended it must be decarbed.
As a general rule for a compound to cross the blood brain barrier it must have a polar surface area less than 60 angstroms. Some will cross up to about 70 but not efficiently.
Thca has a psa of 66.. thc about 30
Cbda has a psa of 77...cbd ~40
The lower the temp used to decarb the better btw
RickyBobby26
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What temp do you use?
Chunky Stool
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I just preheat the oven to 200 then pop in the herb and turn the oven off. Wait one hour. That's it! Extra crispy.
skepler
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Would you go for 6-7 hours at that temperature? As a rule of thumb I use a halving of reaction time for every 10°C increase in temperature.
Dan Drews
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Chop and clean your herb as fine as possible using scissors or a grinder.
Spread out on cookie sheet and cook in your oven at 240 degrees for about 30 minutes, per the chart above.
Using a double boiler, melt your butter, add herb and cook in butter for 2 hours. Use a spatula to stir it and squish it every 15 minutes of so.
Pour through fine strainer into measuring cup and let solidify before using. Enjoy!
Spread out on cookie sheet and cook in your oven at 240 degrees for about 30 minutes, per the chart above.
Using a double boiler, melt your butter, add herb and cook in butter for 2 hours. Use a spatula to stir it and squish it every 15 minutes of so.
Pour through fine strainer into measuring cup and let solidify before using. Enjoy!
AnxiousRobot
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So you can decarb your herb submerged in oil? It does t have to be toasted at the above temps in a dry oven?
The above decarb graph is super helpful. Is there a similar graph to show thc infusion temps in fats and alcohols? I have the equipment to control the temperature of my infusion to the tenth of a degree and would like to do a dairy infusion with raw milk and I would like to do it at the lowest temperature available to preserve the properties and qualities of the mill itself... Thanks for any help! I'd love to do some guides and recipes once I get some more info. I'm a Michelin starred chef by trade and would love to apply these techniques to my current skill set and crazy recipes.
skepler
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Actually, I am decarbing coconut oil infused with wax or coconut oil used as the extraction medium. The coconut oil can be washed with water to remove most of the cannabis odor, I do not toast my herb in the oven. I think there is much better temperature control and control of the decarbing process if done with infused oil as opposed to a dry bake in the oven. Exposure to oxygen, ie. dry decarbing allows more breakdown of the THC into CBN, much more difficult when in solution. I find coconut oil holds a lot more cannabis than butter fat, but either will infuse at 130-140°F. If I had to use butter, it would be ghee instead.
qwizoking
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No more like 1.5-2
Yes it can be decarbed while in solution.. typically in practice this is how it would be done.
Just decarb the oil, watch visuually and add to milk. If wanting to preserve the most, try a 4 month cured bud room temp no light..ectract add to whatever you desire and retain the original flavor
Dissolution rates i couldnt tell yiu butveasy enough to do figure out as a chef
AnxiousRobot
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So you're doing 130-140 for how long? I wasn't sure it was possible to infuse herb in fat at a temperature below pasteurization (145f for 30 minutes or 161 for 15f minutes) since I see most recipes on sites doing it at low in a crock pot which would be like 200f... Will the time/temp of infusion have to be adjusted since milk (3.25% butterfat) is a lot less rich than butter (80% butterfat)? Are the rates of infusion shorter with extracts as opposed to herb?
AnxiousRobot
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So much so that I can steep it in cream to infuse without heating much?
skepler
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I've never tried it, but would assume that yes, some would go into the cream. It depends on how much fat is in the cream and how much can be in solution with wax added. I'd give it a try, but I rarely use cream. I like 1/25th of a gram of QWISO or BHO decarbed as a 'dose', friends find that amount to be plenty. So I'd try .65 grams in a pint of cream, making an ounce of cream contain 1/25th of a gram.