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Resinhound

Resinhound

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phil k said:
It must take a lot of energy to keep hating people because they correct you and give information your either not wanting to hear or in informed on .. But whatever
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Just your opinion,but hey I have an open mind,lets see the full cycle plants bro.
 
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Walter C

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Hopefully this will quell your haters Phil.

The strain is Alpine OG (Tahoe OG x Viper City OG) by Moxie. I am in the process of finding keepers so I have been running with gallon pots. Each plant was grown with a pound of Kind Soil packed in the bottom of the pots and Pro Mix HP above it. Going to experiment with the Coco Loco in the future.

I vegged these plants 3 weeks and flowered them 61 days. I could have vegged them a little longer even.

I ran Bio-Canna nutrients before switching to Phil's soil and I have to say, that I will never run nutrients again. The smell of the drying plants (we're talking less than 2 oz) crawled out of the room they were hanging in, unlike before. The sample I took, even without curing it is far more flavorful and much smoother than the run I did with the Bio-Canna on the strain/pheno.

I found Phil on MassRoots and I was skeptical about it at first, just like anyone would be about it. But the pictures on the website and reviews on Amazon swayed me. It's OK for skepticism, but to say that something doesn't work and you have never tried it personally is a bit ignorant.

The pictures are from day 32, day 46, day 56, harvest and after a week of drying. The last photo is of the final product from the run I did with the Bio-Canna. Yes, the stuff feeds your plants through the whole grow and yes the leaves will yellow/purple/color up as it gets closer to the finish. I am a very satisfied customer.
 

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Bbcchance

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Walter C said:
Hopefully this will quell your haters Phil.

The strain is Alpine OG (Tahoe OG x Viper City OG) by Moxie. I am in the process of finding keepers so I have been running with gallon pots. Each plant was grown with a pound of Kind Soil packed in the bottom of the pots and Pro Mix HP above it. Going to experiment with the Coco Loco in the future.

I vegged these plants 3 weeks and flowered them 61 days. I could have vegged them a little longer even.

I ran Bio-Canna nutrients before switching to Phil's soil and I have to say, that I will never run nutrients again. The smell of the drying plants (we're talking less than 2 oz) crawled out of the room they were hanging in, unlike before. The sample I took, even without curing it is far more flavorful and much smoother than the run I did with the Bio-Canna on the strain/pheno.

I found Phil on MassRoots and I was skeptical about it at first, just like anyone would be about it. But the pictures on the website and reviews on Amazon swayed me. It's OK for skepticism, but to say that something doesn't work and you have never tried it personally is a bit ignorant.

The pictures are from day 32, day 46, day 56, harvest and after a week of drying. The last photo is of the final product from the run I did with the Bio-Canna. Yes, the stuff feeds your plants through the whole grow and yes the leaves will yellow/purple/color up as it gets closer to the finish. I am a very satisfied customer.
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You may have just done more harm than good, I'll probably give it a shot one day, I enjoy trying new things:peace:
 
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Walter C

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Bbcchance said:
You may have just done more harm than good, I'll probably give it a shot one day, I enjoy trying new things:peace:
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I am still relatively new to growing cannabis so some mistakes were made in the beginning. I experimenting with different ways to find what works best for me. It is still a better finished product than what I got from Bio-Canna.

How did I do more harm? The pictures are pretty cut and dry, you did ask to see pictures that answered your questions about the finish. Is it not enough to hear from someone who actually uses the stuff other than Phil? I could see you doubting him. I have no vested interest in it other than being a customer. This is why I generally don't come to message boards. Even with proof something works, people still doubt you.

The stuff smells and tastes phenomenal, is quite potent and smooth. Ever smoke something so smooth you take far too big of a hit because you can't feel it filling your lungs?
 
Bbcchance

Bbcchance

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Walter C said:
I am still relatively new to growing cannabis so some mistakes were made in the beginning. I experimenting with different ways to find what works best for me. It is still a better finished product than what I got from Bio-Canna.

How did I do more harm? The pictures are pretty cut and dry, you did ask to see pictures that answered your questions about the finish. Is it not enough to hear from someone who actually uses the stuff other than Phil? I could see you doubting him. I have no vested interest in it other than being a customer. This is why I generally don't come to message boards. Even with proof something works, people still doubt you.

The stuff smells and tastes phenomenal, is quite potent and smooth. Ever smoke something so smooth you take far too big of a hit because you can't feel it filling your lungs?
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It wasn't me doubting the product, I've just seen the plants they guys that were have grown, and they are pretty damned impressive that's all, and yes I have had that kind of smoke, but that's more from the cure in my limited experience
 
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Walter C

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Bbcchance said:
It wasn't me doubting the product, I've just seen the plants they guys that were have grown, and they are pretty damned impressive that's all, and yes I have had that kind of smoke, but that's more from the cure in my limited experience
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If the grower doesn't flush the salts out, doesn't matter how much curing is done, it'll still be harsh.

Try 1 bag and run it side by side with your current system is all I'll say. You don't have to spend time mixing nutrients or flushing the plants and that time can be better used in the garden. It can't hurt.
 
Bbcchance

Bbcchance

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Walter C said:
If the grower doesn't flush the salts out, doesn't matter how much curing is done, it'll still be harsh.

Try 1 bag and run it side by side with your current system is all I'll say. You don't have to spend time mixing nutrients or flushing the plants and that time can be better used in the garden. It can't hurt.
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If the grower doesn't drown the crop in ferts and properly LEACHES the medium there are no salts to flush, therefore also not harsh, also if same said grower allows the buds to dry at a slower rate before curing the same lack of harshness can be achieved:peace:
 
Resinhound

Resinhound

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Walter C said:
If the grower doesn't flush the salts out, doesn't matter how much curing is done, it'll still be harsh.

Try 1 bag and run it side by side with your current system is all I'll say. You don't have to spend time mixing nutrients or flushing the plants and that time can be better used in the garden. It can't hurt.
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You cant flush nutrients out of a plant,stop perpetuating nonsence.
 
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Walter C

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Alexander Supertramp said:
Simply not true. What you just said is nothing more than forum BS.
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Bbcchance said:
If the grower doesn't drown the crop in ferts and properly LEACHES the medium there are no salts to flush, therefore also not harsh, also if same said grower allows the buds to dry at a slower rate before curing the same lack of harshness can be achieved:peace:
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Actually it isn't entirely untrue because it depends on what they use as well as how much is put in it. Things like Bush Load aren't easy to flush out and if they're using that, who knows what else they use.

I have ran Bio-Canna and Iguana Juice and this system left me more satisfied with the end result than the other stuff did. You won't find anyone more picky about what they smoke than me and it passes my test. Mine have always been flushed for a week and hung for about 7-8 days before going to jars. This is the best end product I've had yet. Especially the rosin.

Why put all the extra work into something if you don't have to though? Especially with larger crops.

At the end of the day, use what you like and what works for you. I destroyed my ankle a little over a year ago and this system makes it easier for me now. Which is also a factor in why I tried it out.
 
Resinhound

Resinhound

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Walter C said:
Actually it isn't entirely untrue because it depends on what they use as well as how much is put in it. Things like Bush Load aren't easy to flush out and if they're using that, who knows what else they use.

I have ran Bio-Canna and Iguana Juice and this system left me more satisfied with the end result than the other stuff did. You won't find anyone more picky about what they smoke than me and it passes my test. Mine have always been flushed for a week and hung for about 7-8 days before going to jars. This is the best end product I've had yet. Especially the rosin.

Why put all the extra work into something if you don't have to though? Especially with larger crops.

At the end of the day, use what you like and what works for you. I destroyed my ankle a little over a year ago and this system makes it easier for me now. Which is also a factor in why I tried it out.
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Im sorry to hear about your ankle phil.
 
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