Shatter E-CIG Oil, Yes, it works!

tightpockt

tightpockt

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Eric M said:
vg will not absorb enough of the good stuff and is pretty much just for added vapor cloud,, and peg works way better then ppg, nice clear, great tasting, strong,,,with the peg i found i use one 5ml bottle with 1 gram shattered. just melt the shattered in shot glass on coffee warmer ( i use a pic induction cook top myself at 140-160 ) and heat the peg in a shotglass next to the shatter then mix them real good suck up with a childs medicine syringe squirt back into bottle and fill my tanks, i puff it alot and it last a long time
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I'm interested in trying this. What's a good source of PEG with nicotine infused? Also, do you get fucked up? What's the high like? How expensive is all of this?
Could this solution be used with these pens? http://blackoutx.com/products/3-vape-pen-special
Sorry but I know NOTHING about vaping but I really do want to quit smoking cigarettes
 
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VAPEMAKER

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tightpockt said:
I'm interested in trying this. What's a good source of PEG with nicotine infused? Also, do you get fucked up? What's the high like? How expensive is all of this?
Could this solution be used with these pens? http://blackoutx.com/products/3-vape-pen-special
Sorry but I know NOTHING about vaping but I really do want to quit smoking cigarettes
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I do not know of any peg that contain nicotine,,the e cig industry uses ppg because it is cheaper, when i was doing my initial research i discovered the chinese man who invented the electronic cig used PEG , but by the time they gained popularity in US they were using ppg. i have never tried the product you linked but it looks like it has cotton in it you want your liquid in a tank not in a cotton ball, try www.anniesvapes.com for all you will need, they have canisters that are made for this /the ones used by the top producers of thc vape pens , O.penvape and such. its well worth the time, if you use ppg with nic to make this i do not think it would come out very well, but you could try it,,90% of those who have ended up going to peg anyway, and just get an extra tank for a 510 thread battery,, i would stay away from anything not standard 510 thread because this leaves you stuck as to where you get replacement parts. on yor other two questions yes it will get you rite,,and you can try anniesvapes.com for price comparison to get an idea,,,then all you need is the concentrate
good luck, hope this helped some
 
GrowinDad

GrowinDad

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Personal preference here - but I think PG has a much better flavor than PEG. VG is best but does not work with THC oils without horrible separation.

To quit smoking cigs..just head down to a vape shop and they will set you up. Most nic juices are a mix of VG and PG.
 
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VAPEMAKER

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GrowinDad said:
Personal preference here - but I think PG has a much better flavor than PEG. VG is best but does not work with THC oils without horrible separation.

To quit smoking cigs..just head down to a vape shop and they will set you up. Most nic juices are a mix of VG and PG.
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VAPEMAKER said:
I do not know of any peg that contain nicotine,,the e cig industry uses ppg because it is cheaper, when i was doing my initial research i discovered the chinese man who invented the electronic cig used PEG , but by the time they gained popularity in US they were using ppg. i have never tried the product you linked but it looks like it has cotton in it you want your liquid in a tank not in a cotton ball, try www.anniesvapes.com for all you will need, they have canisters that are made for this /the ones used by the top producers of thc vape pens , O.penvape and such. its well worth the time, if you use ppg with nic to make this i do not think it would come out very well, but you could try it,,90% of those who have ended up going to peg anyway, and just get an extra tank for a 510 thread battery,, i would stay away from anything not standard 510 thread because this leaves you stuck as to where you get replacement parts. on yor other two questions yes it will get you rite,,and you can try anniesvapes.com for price comparison to get an idea,,,then all you need is the concentrate
good luck, hope this helped some
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Just for shits and giggles
i spoke with a representitive of O.penvape inquiring about the saftey of PEG andits use in E-cig vaporizers(as an interested customer of course) they told me that it has FDA approval for this use and gave me the following links with tons of info on the subject

http://www.clariant.cn/C12575E4001FB2B8/vwLookupDownloads/Polyethylene Glycols Folder - 2014.pdf/$FILE/Polyethylene Glycols Folder - 2014.pdf

http://dmd.aspetjournals.org/content/35/1/9.full

hope they are helpful
 
zach00541111

zach00541111

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So i tried this original recipe and how come it looks like theres little lile bubbles of shatter that starts to apear as it cools? I used just pg usp and shatter heated it to 150 and mixed away
 
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VAPEMAKER

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Ppg will separate from Shater and unless u are using a sub ohm vape rig it really does not work try the rite stuff on ebay it is polyethylene glycol 400 usp or PEG 400 USP
 
WaxLiquidizer

WaxLiquidizer

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Hi everyone!
You can use Wax Liquidizer for this purpose it works great! There are 3 flavors: original ( you can add your own flavors to it), menthol , and strawberry ( best seller), my formula is based on PG, PEG200, and PEG400, for best suspension and vapor production! Either one of those ingredients will work for suspension, but you get the best result when they are mixed together in proper proportions. We found a shot glass and a microwave to be your best tools for mixing your concentrates with Wax Liquidizer, you simply add 2 parts of liquidizer to 1 part of concentrate in a shot glass than put it in a microwave for 10 seconds, stir until even consistency is reached ( repeat if concentrate didn't dissolve completely) . You can use it in any tankomizer , atomizer etc...
You can check out website at www.waxliquidizer.com and here is a video with directions

Also what flavor would you guys love to see next in our line up?
 
charface

charface

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WaxLiquidizer said:
Hi everyone!
You can use Wax Liquidizer for this purpose it works great! There are 3 flavors: original ( you can add your own flavors to it), menthol , and strawberry ( best seller), my formula is based on PG, PEG200, and PEG400, for best suspension and vapor production! Either one of those ingredients will work for suspension, but you get the best result when they are mixed together in proper proportions. We found a shot glass and a microwave to be your best tools for mixing your concentrates with Wax Liquidizer, you simply add 2 parts of liquidizer to 1 part of concentrate in a shot glass than put it in a microwave for 10 seconds, stir until even consistency is reached ( repeat if concentrate didn't dissolve completely) . You can use it in any tankomizer , atomizer etc...
You can check out website at www.waxliquidizer.com and here is a video with directions

Also what flavor would you guys love to see next in our line up?
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Salty caramel
 
WaxLiquidizer

WaxLiquidizer

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sfvbudlover said:
Hi Everybody!

I am new to this thread, just found it last weekend, and read it twice, like the other 5 threads I have found online on DIY vape-oil.

I just started vaping oil this past July so I wouldn't wreak due to smoking bud. Of course 2 months ago I started doing my DIY research because I want to vape oil with less expense, plus, when you buy prefilled cartomizers, or refill syringes, MHO is that
you never know exactly how much thc you are actually paying for (and sometimes getting ripped off) until you vape the product.

After buying vg at WF and ordering PG online (per all the threads, I ordered 3 bottles of The Rite Stuff on Thursday and should get it by Tuesday. So I shall be buying some shatter in next few days at a med dispensary. All I need is 2 shot glasses and I should be set.

After reading about the some of the med history and cause of the guy who sells the rite stuff on ebay, I will continue to buy from him as long as I can afford it because I've done hours of research regarding 911.

The only thing I haven't read yet is GG's blog. I am totally impressed and am greatfull for all the info you all have shared with us. I still got a load of questions and will ask them over time.

1. My current ? is, when I meltdown the shatter and heat up the rite stuff in sep shot glasses at 140F, should I heat them both up for 10 min in saucepan of water while stirring both continuously and then ad the rite stuff to the liquid shatter, continue stirring for a few min until they are thoroughly mixed, and let it cool down before I add put approx 1 ml in my cartomizer and the rest back in the rite stuff bottle?
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Just use microwave, here are directions
 
OsmosisJones14

OsmosisJones14

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When making the QWISO for e-juice....do you decarb your bud before adding the ISO? Why wouldn't the vaporization cause enough heat to decarb it upon inhalation?
 
OsmosisJones14

OsmosisJones14

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So, Wax Liquidizer - I've seen your video and think it's a good idea for sure and an easy method.

My initial thought was "It's like cooking chicken in the microwave vs the oven...oven always tastes better." but that's a preference I guess.

My only real question is this: are you concerned that microwaving it removes/alters molecules in a potentially negative way.

For example, plastic products like Tupperware that weren't BPA-free would have hormones seep into the food that was being microwaved in it.

Is there any potential for that? Have you talked to a professional about it?
 
WaxLiquidizer

WaxLiquidizer

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OsmosisJones14 said:
So, Wax Liquidizer - I've seen your video and think it's a good idea for sure and an easy method.

My initial thought was "It's like cooking chicken in the microwave vs the oven...oven always tastes better." but that's a preference I guess.

My only real question is this: are you concerned that microwaving it removes/alters molecules in a potentially negative way.

For example, plastic products like Tupperware that weren't BPA-free would have hormones seep into the food that was being microwaved in it.

Is there any potential for that? Have you talked to a professional about it?
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I think the better example would be
"boiling water for your tea in a pot on a stove or using a microwave"
All you are doing in a microwave is increasing the temperature of solution for your concentrate to dissolve better (think sugar and water), it doesn't alter molecules in a negative way

Plastic products are not supposed to be heated up over a certain temperature in a microwave or stove and are not meant to be ingested, that is why we are using "microwave safe container" for this method
 
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