Clinton is the next POTUS

Who is going to be the next President?


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Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
Trump will never release his tax records.....because he's a conman & they would prove it
Oh, he will have to, and that is the Achilles heal on his left foot, and on his right foot is that every true conservative and 2/3 of the Republicans that are not Tea Party, hate his fucking guts, because he will have after the end of this campaign will have set back the GOP by another 12 years. Ah shit, I am laughing again so hard, that I puked on my little Dickie poo.(that's my cat by the way)
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
The problem with many sanders supporters is that they are mostly young & immature. Like a kid that will throw themselves on the floor & cry & kick if they can't have what they want. They might vote for trump just to spite their parents......kids these days:roll:
and yet no one or @Jimdamick (cough,cough) can come up with one thing her highness has accomplished..besides looks like the children have equipped Sanders with $40M..allowances must be better than when I was growing up.
 

Fogdog

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The problem with many sanders supporters is that they are mostly young & immature. Like a kid that will throw themselves on the floor & cry & kick if they can't have what they want. They might vote for trump just to spite their parents......kids these days:roll:
This is not my impression of millennials. Hillary represents the status quo of centrist pragmatic and non-idealistic governance represented by Obama. Add to that Hillary's ties to Wall Street and big money politics. This is hardly an energizing image for young adults, many of whom remember the Occupy Wall Street movement. Its up to Hillary to change her image if she can or decides she needs to.

Trump represents much worse than the status quo to these same voters. He's not going to win them over. At all.

Both Hillary and Trump have incredibly bad unfavorable ratings in every poll conducted thus far. A lot depends on what each candidate does to change that image. Right now, the Donald is about to silence about the same proportion of voters in the GOP that Hillary does with Democrats. Given recent polling data, unless one of them does something to change negative perceptions, it is still advantage Hillary by a good margin.

That said, a win by Sanders would change the dynamic and tilt the election strongly away from the fascist GOP.
 

ThaMagnificent

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This is not my impression of millennials. Hillary represents the status quo of centrist pragmatic and non-idealistic governance represented by Obama. Add to that Hillary's ties to Wall Street and big money politics. This is hardly an energizing image for young adults, many of whom remember the Occupy Wall Street movement. Its up to Hillary to change her image if she can or decides she needs to.

Trump represents much worse than the status quo to these same voters. He's not going to win them over. At all.

Both Hillary and Trump have incredibly bad unfavorable ratings in every poll conducted thus far. A lot depends on what each candidate does to change that image. Right now, the Donald is about to silence about the same proportion of voters in the GOP that Hillary does with Democrats. Given recent polling data, unless one of them does something to change negative perceptions, it is still advantage Hillary by a good margin.

That said, a win by Sanders would change the dynamic and tilt the election strongly away from the fascist GOP.
Obama was carried by record numbers of minority groups, particularly millennials and the black community who came out in droves to vote for him. Hillary doesn't have the same effect as Dem primary voting is down by a ton this cycle. The black vote alone is down over 30% compared to when Obama won.
 

testiclees

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Obama was carried by record numbers of minority groups, particularly millennials and the black community who came out in droves to vote for him. Hillary doesn't have the same effect as Dem primary voting is down by a ton this cycle. The black vote alone is down over 30% compared to when Obama won.
ya plus this time trump has Clayton Bixby on his side.bixby.jpg
 

Fogdog

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Obama was carried by record numbers of minority groups, particularly millennials and the black community who came out in droves to vote for him. Hillary doesn't have the same effect as Dem primary voting is down by a ton this cycle. The black vote alone is down over 30% compared to when Obama won.
This from the person that just repeats right wing mythology about Bill Clinton's achievements to balance the budget. You are still smarting from the spanking I gave you on that and haven't responded yet to that.

Now you are echoing drivel from the same echo chamber regarding something else you know nothing about. You merit no response other than disdain.

Your mom must have told you every day how wonderful you were. Too bad you thought that was enough.
 

ThaMagnificent

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This from the person that just repeats right wing mythology about Bill Clinton's achievements to balance the budget. You are still smarting from the spanking I gave you on that and haven't responded yet to that.

Now you are echoing drivel from the same echo chamber regarding something else you know nothing about. You merit no response other than disdain.

Your mom must have told you every day how wonderful you were. Too bad you thought that was enough.
LOL Keep on spinning Clintons "achievements" in that fantasy land you live in.

It's always funny seeing liberals bash conservatives for being racists, bigots,misogynists,etc and yet when it comes to confrontation you libs always resort to personal attacks and name calling. Face it, you're just the mirror image of everything you claim to hate and stand against you hypocrite.
 

Fogdog

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and yet no one or @Jimdamick (cough,cough) can come up with one thing her highness has accomplished..besides looks like the children have equipped Sanders with $40M..allowances must be better than when I was growing up.
I'm no fan of Hillary. Still, this kind of mindless shit requires a response.

Hillary has been a cottage industry for right wing hacks making a living off of tearing her down. For more than two decades, Clinton has built support and an organization in the face of tremendous opposition. Like her or not, she is a formidable opponent and demonstrates leadership in the face of raving opposition.

So, lets name a few accomplishments just to break this ice dam of ignorance.

As first lady, after Bill and Hillary went down in flames over the initiative to implement universal healthcare coverage -- he lost the congress over this. In the very next term, she worked with Hatch and Kennedy to author a bill to expand health care coverage to millions of children from poor families. She took a pounding in the failure to implement universal healthcare coverage but she bounced back and made a difference for many. Like her or not, that kind of resilience is admirable or at the very least something to respect.

As Senator for New York, she helped gain billions of federal aid to help rebuild after 9/11
She also did her bit to keep jobs in state and add to them, such as retain an Air Force base that was on tap for closure, open a research center at university of Buffalo.
She also authored a pay equity bill that is still the law of the land

As Secretary of State, she was behind every one of Obama's foreign policy victories. Including building an international coalition to implement tough sanctions on Iran that brought them to the negotiating table. Also, the opening of Cuba, the negotiating the cease fire at Gaza, facilitating the START treaty and sponsorship of the US's role in the signing of the Paris climate change agreement.

This all said, I'm a supporter of Bernie Sanders and will be unless he withdraws. But to say Clinton has DONE NOTHING is a distortion that ignores the fact that the things she had done cause right wingers to froth at the mouth. And I like that.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
LOL Keep on spinning Clintons "achievements" in that fantasy land you live in.

It's always funny seeing liberals bash conservatives for being racists, bigots,misogynists,etc and yet when it comes to confrontation you libs always resort to personal attacks and name calling. Face it, you're just the mirror image of everything you claim to hate and stand against you hypocrite.
Dude, you have nothing and bring nothing. So tell me, did you know that Bill Clinton oversaw the only budget surplus that the US has had in the past 60 or so years? There were four years under Bill where this happened. This in spite of the recession of 2000? What happened when Republicans took that office? What are Republicans promising now, especially Trump? More big tax cuts and big budget deficits.

I answered you factually and honestly before. Yet you keep up the same wingnut drivel and deserve no consideration going forward. Because you have nothing and know nothing.
 

ThaMagnificent

Well-Known Member
Dude, you have nothing and bring nothing. So tell me, did you know that Bill Clinton oversaw the only budget surplus that the US has had in the past 60 or so years? There were four years under Bill where this happened. This in spite of the recession of 2000? What happened when Republicans took that office? What are Republicans promising now, especially Trump? More big tax cuts and big budget deficits.

I answered you factually and honestly before. Yet you keep up the same wingnut drivel and deserve no consideration going forward. Because you have nothing and know nothing.
And as I've said before, the budget surplus is a myth. Please tell me the definition of a budget surplus/deficit. How is it calculated?

If there is ever a true surplus, then the national debt would go down.

The national debt did not go down one year during the Clinton administration.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
And as I've said before, the budget surplus is a myth. Please tell me the definition of a budget surplus/deficit. How is it calculated?

If there is ever a true surplus, then the national debt would go down.

The national debt did not go down one year during the Clinton administration.
A teensy bit of effort would answer your question. You are just spouting right wing made up shit. Rather than repeat yourself, prove me wrong with facts. All you do is say nuh uh. That's first grader stuff.

So, here's a clue:
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I'm no fan of Hillary. Still, this kind of mindless shit requires a response.

Hillary has been a cottage industry for right wing hacks making a living off of tearing her down. For more than two decades, Clinton has built support and an organization in the face of tremendous opposition. Like her or not, she is a formidable opponent and demonstrates leadership in the face of raving opposition.

So, lets name a few accomplishments just to break this ice dam of ignorance.

As first lady, after Bill and Hillary went down in flames over the initiative to implement universal healthcare coverage -- he lost the congress over this. In the very next term, she worked with Hatch and Kennedy to author a bill to expand health care coverage to millions of children from poor families. She took a pounding in the failure to implement universal healthcare coverage but she bounced back and made a difference for many. Like her or not, that kind of resilience is admirable or at the very least something to respect.

As Senator for New York, she helped gain billions of federal aid to help rebuild after 9/11
She also did her bit to keep jobs in state and add to them, such as retain an Air Force base that was on tap for closure, open a research center at university of Buffalo.
She also authored a pay equity bill that is still the law of the land

As Secretary of State, she was behind every one of Obama's foreign policy victories. Including building an international coalition to implement tough sanctions on Iran that brought them to the negotiating table. Also, the opening of Cuba, the negotiating the cease fire at Gaza, facilitating the START treaty and sponsorship of the US's role in the signing of the Paris climate change agreement.

This all said, I'm a supporter of Bernie Sanders and will be unless he withdraws. But to say Clinton has DONE NOTHING is a distortion that ignores the fact that the things she had done cause right wingers to froth at the mouth. And I like that.
:peace:
 

pnwmystery

Well-Known Member
LOL Keep on spinning Clintons "achievements" in that fantasy land you live in.

It's always funny seeing liberals bash conservatives for being racists, bigots,misogynists,etc and yet when it comes to confrontation you libs always resort to personal attacks and name calling. Face it, you're just the mirror image of everything you claim to hate and stand against you hypocrite.
If you think Clinton had "achievements" and none of them were actual, you're living in a fantasy land.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Obama was carried by record numbers of minority groups, particularly millennials and the black community who came out in droves to vote for him. Hillary doesn't have the same effect as Dem primary voting is down by a ton this cycle. The black vote alone is down over 30% compared to when Obama won.
Democratic primary voting is DOWN? Where did you get that idea? Caucus attendance has been breaking records all over the place around here!
 
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