Who loves their concentrates ?

GroErr

GroErr

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My preference is flower for smoking or vaping, just love the smell, taste. But for edibles and the odd strong dab I convert everything into dry sift/kief first. The reason is I don't like any form of solvents involved and the process is super simple. Once I have the sift I can smoke it, vape it, convert it to the Rosin hits (just heat, no solvents), edibles, oils (topical). Love my sift...
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bigmanc

bigmanc

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GroErr said:
My preference is flower for smoking or vaping, just love the smell, taste. But for edibles and the odd strong dab I convert everything into dry sift/kief first. The reason is I don't like any form of solvents involved and the process is super simple. Once I have the sift I can smoke it, vape it, convert it to the Rosin hits (just heat, no solvents), edibles, oils (topical). Love my sift...
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How did you get your sift? dry ice in bubble bags or screens? Im on the hunt for extracts at home, small scale.
 
nsbudca

nsbudca

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Screens are alright but you get the odd piece of greenery in there.

Bubble bags are what's up. I love good clean bubble hash. Never tried using dry ice in the process.

I like being able to shape it while it's still moist.
 
bigmanc

bigmanc

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what he has there looks like dry sift, bags produce bubble hash unless you use dry ice
 
GroErr

GroErr

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bigmanc said:
How did you get your sift? dry ice in bubble bags or screens? Im on the hunt for extracts at home, small scale.
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I bought 5x 16" x 16" stainless steel 100u screens off e-Bay (initially I tried a few different screen sizes, landed at 100u for overall balance between quality and yield), link below, they're like $20 delivered. I found some 1x2's sitting around in the garage and made a frame for the screens. Just use fresh/frozen bud or popcorn and run it through the screens, usually run it through a grinder but rough, freeze for at least 24h, then sift it through the screen with a little pressure going back & forth across the screen. You can run a QP and get 8-15g of sift in less than an hour. Yield depends on strain, I average about 10% but my keepers are typically high in THC and frosty, I've run the odd dud pheno that wasn't worth smoking and gotten as low as 4%, with my sativa-dom pheno of Blue Ripper I've gotten as high as 12%. If you're getting (a lot of) plant material at 100u it's because the starting material was not fresh, anything too old/dry tends to generate more green material. You can go a finer screen to reduce that but then your yield is reduced.

Depends what you want it for, I smoke/vape the odd bit but 90%+ is used in oils/edibles and 100u is a good balance for both uses.

Edit: Link to some screens on e-bay
http://www.ebay.ca/sch/sis.html?_nkw=16"x16"+100+Micron+Stainless+Steel+Kief+Screen+Kif+Pollen+Dabs+Sieve+Trichomes &_id=350927598340&&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2658
 
bigmanc

bigmanc

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GroErr said:
I bought 5x 16" x 16" stainless steel 100u screens off e-Bay (initially I tried a few different screen sizes, landed at 100u for overall balance between quality and yield), link below, they're like $20 delivered. I found some 1x2's sitting around in the garage and made a frame for the screens. Just use fresh/frozen bud or popcorn and run it through the screens, usually run it through a grinder but rough, freeze for at least 24h, then sift it through the screen with a little pressure going back & forth across the screen. You can run a QP and get 8-15g of sift in less than an hour. Yield depends on strain, I average about 10% but my keepers are typically high in THC and frosty, I've run the odd dud pheno that wasn't worth smoking and gotten as low as 4%, with my sativa-dom pheno of Blue Ripper I've gotten as high as 12%. If you're getting (a lot of) plant material at 100u it's because the starting material was not fresh, anything too old/dry tends to generate more green material. You can go a finer screen to reduce that but then your yield is reduced.

Depends what you want it for, I smoke/vape the odd bit but 90%+ is used in oils/edibles and 100u is a good balance for both uses.

Edit: Link to some screens on e-bay
http://www.ebay.ca/sch/sis.html?_nkw=16"x16"+100+Micron+Stainless+Steel+Kief+Screen+Kif+Pollen+Dabs+Sieve+Trichomes &_id=350927598340&&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2658
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Think I'm going to go the same route, I've been watching your journal and the JTR and Blue Ripper looked killer. Came across it when i was looking up HSO Bluedream, take a look at the list of strains I'm dealing with, most won't make 1st round. Doing some serious pheno hunting...trying to find a happy quality/yield strain
https://www.rollitup.org/t/multi-strain-medical-garden.901411/#post-12380802
 
GroErr

GroErr

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bigmanc said:
Think I'm going to go the same route, I've been watching your journal and the JTR and Blue Ripper looked killer. Came across it when i was looking up HSO Bluedream, take a look at the list of strains I'm dealing with, most won't make 1st round. Doing some serious pheno hunting...trying to find a happy quality/yield strain
https://www.rollitup.org/t/multi-strain-medical-garden.901411/#post-12380802
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Nice, subbed up to see what you find. Key is finding the right pheno and that usually means running a pack but sometimes you get lucky, JTR only took about 6 seeds to find a good one. That HSO Blue Dream is not bad, not as strong as JTR/Blue Ripper but not bad if you find a good pheno, typically get around 8-10% return with that one and it's my best producer.
 
PKHydro

PKHydro

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bigmanc said:
whats the tool they use to collect it all? so simple i just can't understand how it works
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Anything really works to collect it. I just use my dabber. Sometimes it can be shattery like glass, sometimes it's a bit more like taffy, pull and snap. Depending on the consistency the collection techniques can vary. But essentially you just scrape it up. Once you get a little ball going, you just use that to collect the rest.

Once you've got it all collected into one glob, I just put it between a clean square of parchment and use the hair straightener to turn the global into a slab. Usually the straightener isn't even turned on for the last part. I unplug it and allow it to cool down when I'm collecting. By the time I'm pressing out my final slab the straightener is warm enough I can grab the heating plates and hold. You really don't want too much heat.
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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PKHydro said:
Anything really works to collect it. I just use my dabber. Sometimes it can be shattery like glass, sometimes it's a bit more like taffy, pull and snap. Depending on the consistency the collection techniques can vary. But essentially you just scrape it up. Once you get a little ball going, you just use that to collect the rest.

Once you've got it all collected into one glob, I just put it between a clean square of parchment and use the hair straightener to turn the global into a slab. Usually the straightener isn't even turned on for the last part. I unplug it and allow it to cool down when I'm collecting. By the time I'm pressing out my final slab the straightener is warm enough I can grab the heating plates and hold. You really don't want too much heat.
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how much pressure do you use?
 
bigmanc

bigmanc

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PKHydro said:
Anything really works to collect it. I just use my dabber. Sometimes it can be shattery like glass, sometimes it's a bit more like taffy, pull and snap. Depending on the consistency the collection techniques can vary. But essentially you just scrape it up. Once you get a little ball going, you just use that to collect the rest.

Once you've got it all collected into one glob, I just put it between a clean square of parchment and use the hair straightener to turn the global into a slab. Usually the straightener isn't even turned on for the last part. I unplug it and allow it to cool down when I'm collecting. By the time I'm pressing out my final slab the straightener is warm enough I can grab the heating plates and hold. You really don't want too much heat.
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Whats your process? squeezing flower, bubble, dry sift? if its a bubble/sift what micron?
 
PKHydro

PKHydro

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doingdishes said:
how much pressure do you use?
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bigmanc said:
Whats your process? squeezing flower, bubble, dry sift? if its a bubble/sift what micron?
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I just squish bubble hash. Most of the time I like to make full spectrum rosin. So I will take everything from the 45 right up to the 160 load it into a tea bag and press it out.
I'm still using the wife's hair straightener, but I'm a big dude (6'3" 290lb), and I'm squeezing pretty hard, plus leaning on it on the counter.

Any micron of bubble can be pressed, I like to keep some of the 90 and 73 bubble around. I pretty much rosin out everything else.
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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PKHydro said:
I just squish bubble hash. Most of the time I like to make full spectrum rosin. So I will take everything from the 45 right up to the 160 load it into a tea bag and press it out.
I'm still using the wife's hair straightener, but I'm a big dude (6'3" 290lb), and I'm squeezing pretty hard, plus leaning on it on the counter.

Any micron of bubble can be pressed, I like to keep some of the 90 and 73 bubble around. I pretty much rosin out everything else.
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thanks.
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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PKHydro said:
No problem. Also a tip, if your squishing bubble, start with lower pressure. It doesn't take much to get the resin to start milking out. Don't just hammer down full pressure from the get go.
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i'm going to try a bud this weekend and see what happens. i keep putting it off
i'm also going to "decarb" some bud and make butter for some edibles
 
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