ttystikk
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Fuck yeah, just don't let it sit around. That's when it gets nasty. I use all my reclaim water, it's distilled!Hey MisterBlah, could I use the water out of the dehumidifier instead of buying distilled water?
Fuck yeah, just don't let it sit around. That's when it gets nasty. I use all my reclaim water, it's distilled!Hey MisterBlah, could I use the water out of the dehumidifier instead of buying distilled water?
Absolutely. Not gonna get a lot closer to zero EC.Yeah I reuse it but I was wondering if I can use it when mixing up my A and B concentrated solutions
Yes, but...Hey MisterBlah, could I use the water out of the dehumidifier instead of buying distilled water?
Sweet. Cheers mate!Yes, but...
Water that comes out of a dehumidifier is practically pure, but you run the risk of dealing with Legionella bacteria, which causes Legionnaires' disease, basically pneumonia. This is why condensate from air handlers and dehumidifiers in HVAC systems are sent down the drain instead of reused. It's a code requirement, IIRC.
So, in order to use it, you will want to treat it with chlorine. I recommend a solution of sodium hypochlorite, which is often sold as hypochlorus acid, or household bleach. I also recommend using that in general. Read this article here for information and concentrations for creating your own: http://scienceinhydroponics.com/2009/02/disinfecting-your-hydroponic-solution-with-hypochlorite.html
You'll want to make a solution that is like 1-5ppm of chloride and then just make your stock solutions after that.
Yeah, MKP and a filler, lol Notice the ratio between the components is the same, they just put something else in there to dilute it. Nothing wrong with MKP when used in careful accordance with its potency.Anyone got a break down for bloom boosters with NPK of 0-39-25? This used to be the old Bud Blood but still is in Grotek Bloosom Blaster, Rambridge Bud Blood, etc...
Most just list MKP as derived from but obviously something else in it.
Well I use MKP for one of my own products Basically MPK 905 grams and 105 of MAP. Sell 1kg for $35 which is below cost of what I pay for 500G Monster Bloom. If anyone can get me the recipe for 0-39-25 I'll make it (have tons of raw salts in my shop) and sell it to RIU members cheap.Yeah, MKP and a filler, lol Notice the ratio between the components is the same, they just put something else in there to dilute it. Nothing wrong with MKP when used in careful accordance with its potency.
With an NPK of 1-52-31, it's obvious those other chemicals are more of a distraction to make it seem more complicated than it really is. That product is basically just MKP. There's no point in trying to recreate it.Check out Bud Blaster http://www.supernaturalbrand.com/wp-content/uploads/TOPRINT_BudBlaster_1-52-31.pdf
Ingredients
MKP 0-52-34
DAP 18-46-0
MAP 11-52-0
Super Phosphate - Monocalcium phosphate
The label says 1-52-31 http://www.supernaturalbrand.com/wp-content/uploads/TOPRINT_BudBlaster_1-52-31.pdf
So the DAP/MAP/Super Phosphate amounts are tiny vs MAP
if someone can get me a break down I'll make some up and could send out to Canadian RIU users to test out.
You be surprised why people will buy one product over the other even if they are both 99% the same main chemical.With an NPK of 1-52-31, it's obvious those other chemicals are more of a distraction to make it seem more complicated than it really is. That product is basically just MKP. There's no point in trying to recreate it.
'Ignorance' doesn't surprise me at all anymore.You be surprised why people will buy one product over the other even if they are both 99% the same main chemical.
I haven't ordered it for a while but it is or use to be Potassium Hydroxide.Advanced Nutrients PH-UP
It is not clear from any data you can get, but it's potassium carbonate in solution.
Just for everyone's information: Triple Super Phosphate(TSP) is another name for MonoCalcium Phosphate.Check out Bud Blaster http://www.supernaturalbrand.com/wp-content/uploads/TOPRINT_BudBlaster_1-52-31.pdf
Ingredients
MKP 0-52-34
DAP 18-46-0
MAP 11-52-0
Super Phosphate - Monocalcium phosphate
The label says 1-52-31 http://www.supernaturalbrand.com/wp-content/uploads/TOPRINT_BudBlaster_1-52-31.pdf
So the DAP/MAP/Super Phosphate amounts are tiny vs MAP
if someone can get me a break down I'll make some up and could send out to Canadian RIU users to test out.
At 99% similarity, I can think of a few things that will make me buy one over another. Though, none of these things are fertilizer.You be surprised why people will buy one product over the other even if they are both 99% the same main chemical.
1kG of MKP or MAP for $35? That's ridiculous. I can buy 25kg for $55. If I repackage it and sell at 1kg packages, it's like $7.Well I use MKP for one of my own products Basically MPK 905 grams and 105 of MAP. Sell 1kg for $35 which is below cost of what I pay for 500G Monster Bloom. If anyone can get me the recipe for 0-39-25 I'll make it (have tons of raw salts in my shop) and sell it to RIU members cheap.
I'm looking for a final product in dry salts. I guess with the DAP and MAP only raising the N to 1 that's max of say 30 or 100g of MAP or DAP. and Super Phosphate probably tiny amount. Problem is people will a lot of times not buy a product if the ingredients are not the same. When I gave people MPK as a bloom booster they didn't belive it would work as good as Bud Balster. I had to add MAP to make it look more complicated. Some didn't see any different results of BB vs my stuff but some still went back to paying $225 for 2.3 KG of BB vs $50 for 2 kg of MKP.Just for everyone's information: Triple Super Phosphate(TSP) is another name for MonoCalcium Phosphate.
Based on the labeling requirements and their list of ingredients, you won't be able to figure it out without a lab analysis. This is a prime example of adding ingredients with the deliberate intention of obfuscating the product. They do not need DAP to create this product. And their use of triple superphosphate is low enough that they don't have to label calcium.
That being said, just use MKP instead. It's just easier. Use a Calcium Nitrate as your calcium source. And don't mix them in the same stock solution. You will get Di- and Tri-Calcium Phosphates to precipitate out of solution.
If you are going to make a stock solution of ANY of the above, then your solubility limits are as follows, @ 20°C:
MKP: 230 g/L
MAP: 374 g/L
DKP: 1600 g/L
DAP: 689 g/L
MonoCalcium Phosphate: 18 g/L
Calcium Nitrate: 1290 g/L
If you just want more info on fertilizer solubility/compatibility: https://www.open-salt.com/fertilizer-solubility/
If you want more on all compounds solubility: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solubility_table
Thanks for those solubility numbers!Just for everyone's information: Triple Super Phosphate(TSP) is another name for MonoCalcium Phosphate.
Based on the labeling requirements and their list of ingredients, you won't be able to figure it out without a lab analysis. This is a prime example of adding ingredients with the deliberate intention of obfuscating the product. They do not need DAP to create this product. And their use of triple superphosphate is low enough that they don't have to label calcium.
That being said, just use MKP instead. It's just easier. Use a Calcium Nitrate as your calcium source. And don't mix them in the same stock solution. You will get Di- and Tri-Calcium Phosphates to precipitate out of solution.
If you are going to make a stock solution of ANY of the above, then your solubility limits are as follows, @ 20°C:
MKP: 230 g/L
MAP: 374 g/L
DKP: 1600 g/L
DAP: 689 g/L
MonoCalcium Phosphate: 18 g/L
Calcium Nitrate: 1290 g/L
If you just want more info on fertilizer solubility/compatibility: https://www.open-salt.com/fertilizer-solubility/
If you want more on all compounds solubility: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solubility_table
Well is sell 1kg of MKP/MAP for $35 or so. It costs me about $30 for 500G of Grotek Monster Bloom.At 99% similarity, I can think of a few things that will make me buy one over another. Though, none of these things are fertilizer.
But 100% similarity, which is what I'm trying to show with all of this, it makes no sense to hold onto brand loyalty. Hell, brand loyalty is pointless, regardless.
1kG of MKP or MAP for $35? That's ridiculous. I can buy 25kg for $55. If I repackage it and sell at 1kg packages, it's like $7.