how much from a bag of o.f

[Yodaweed]

LOL... dont slowly change subject... were not talking about price or the quality of fox farm soil...

were talking about if fox farm is organic...

It's not organic it contains synthetic urea, call them and ask why they lost their organic cert on ocean forest.

 

[Yodaweed]

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that says 100% organic....
they dont just put organics symbol on random products... smh

Vermisoil is owned by general hydroponics , I used their products until 2 years ago when they sold to GH which is owned by scotts which is owned by Monsanto. Vermi actually has certs on their stuff, so I just don't use it because its funding Monsanto.

 

[superbak3d]

Ok then make their soil yourself, you can make it for really cheap all you need to do is buy boxes of amendments, the bales of peat moss (100% organic) and mix them together than let it sit in the hot sun for about 2 months and you got the best quality living organic soil available....real organic stuff not premixed synthetic crap.

And exactly how is that spending a fraction of what we pay for non certified ingredients?

 

[superbak3d]

It's not organic it contains synthetic urea, call them and ask why they lost their organic cert on ocean forest.

Funny how that doesn't show up in the ingredients listed on any of my FF products.

 

[Yodaweed]

And exactly how is that spending a fraction of what we pay for non certified ingredients?

They sell amendment kits for cheap, you can get more for less and it is actually organic.

 

[blowinmaryfast]

Since you like labels.

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Key words: Input materials. so yea I'm sure some of the amendments are organic. but what is? I'm curious to this myself but I to know where Foxfarm Humboldt sources a lot of their bulk compost and it could never be organic cert.

 

[Yodaweed]

If you are not making the products yourself, stop pretending to be organic, you are not, someone else is doing the work for you and you have no clue what is going into the products you are using. Bottled nutrients are not organic. The only bottle that belongs in an organic grow is molasses, unsulfured.

 

[superbak3d]

They sell amendment kits for cheap, you can get more for less and it is actually organic.

Because it has a paid label on it?

Do you also sleep with a teddy bear and binky at night too?

 

[blowinmaryfast]

just noticed that was big bloom I thought it was a bag of happy on quick glance. Still the previouos post holds true to soil

 

[Yodaweed]

You have no idea what is going into fox farm soil, it is not organic certified, they call it smart natural what the hell is that, sounds like not organic to me, you tell me where their soil has been confirmed organic please.

 

[superbak3d]

Key words: Input materials. so yea I'm sure some of the amendments are organic. but what is? I'm curious to this myself but I to know where Foxfarm Humboldt sources a lot of their bulk compost and it could never be organic cert.

Big bloom is just castings, guano and kelp. That's it.

 

[Yodaweed]

Big bloom is just castings, guano and kelp. That's it.

NOPE, there are preservatives in that.

 

[Yodaweed]

Dry ingredients are the only way, reconstitute with water if you need, but liquid ingredients are not organic.

 

[superbak3d]

NOPE, there are preservatives in that.

There are no preservatives. It's just ph'd down so it can be stored.

 

[Beemo]

You have no idea what is going into fox farm soil, it is not organic certified, they call it smart natural what the hell is that, sounds like not organic to me, you tell me where their soil has been confirmed organic please.

obviously no matter what anybody says... this guy has his mind made up...
bottles can be organic... PLENTY of organic bottles out there...
http://www.bioag.com/ourproducts.html

 

[Beemo]

There are no preservatives. It's just ph'd down so it can be stored.

ph down is not organic...

 

[superbak3d]

I like how he blatantly ignores the fact that the OMRI certification he loves so very much only requires the sample to be 90% organic or better to meet their standards.

So even if a product is 95% organic and 5% preservatives, it still receives an ORMI label.

 

[blowinmaryfast]

I'm not sure if its relevant but I know Monsanto has successfully lobbied to lower the organic input materials over the past 5 years. so then the omri is not the best, right? Oh nice superbak3d just saw that. At the same time natural and organic are totally different that is if you want the clean green cert.

 

[SPLFreak808]

There are no preservatives. It's just ph'd down so it can be stored.

What do they use to drop pH for storage?

 

[Yodaweed]

Don't use PH up or down...that's what your soil is for if you build your soil correctly it should have buffers in it that adjust the PH of what you give it....