S.O.G. Strains. Your vote matters.

[rickymac21]

Good evening RIU. I'd just like to get a tally on some of these strains I had in mind for running a true sog. Yield is important, but not to the extent of sacrificing smell and taste.

That being said, my options are above in the poll, you can select 2. Please leave any feedback on said strains if you have previous experience. Or if you have another suggestion that seems to fall into my category, please feel free to share the breeder, strain, and any info you please.

 

[bluntmassa1]

Never done Critical+ but Critical Mass is a re worked Big Bud overall potency is decent but better with selection you pick a real good keeper she can't be beat for yield.

And of course Blue Dream is well known for good yields and smoke have heard some bad about the HSO seed version but I have just started working on the clone only I got her producing good but next run I will see just what all the fuss is about. As for the seed lines though selection is going to be needed I don't give a fuck what some people say about S1 they ain't clones. but that said you can find one you like better that yields better but selection is needed which is why what ones favorite strain ain't gonna be the same for everyone cause one guy can find a great plant in a single fem that another can't find for 50 plants.

It's all a gamble especially with small selections, until the day comes real breeders step in and show us what's really up.

 

[rickymac21]

Never done Critical+ but Critical Mass is a re worked Big Bud overall potency is decent but better with selection you pick a real good keeper she can't be beat for yield.

And of course Blue Dream is well known for good yields and smoke have heard some bad about the HSO seed version but I have just started working on the clone only I got her producing good but next run I will see just what all the fuss is about. As for the seed lines though selection is going to be needed I don't give a fuck what some people say about S1 they ain't clones. but that said you can find one you like better that yields better but selection is needed which is why what ones favorite strain ain't gonna be the same for everyone cause one guy can find a great plant in a single fem that another can't find for 50 plants.

It's all a gamble especially with small selections, until the day comes real breeders step in and show us what's really up.

Thanks for the input. I really haven't been a fan of fems to be honest. Ivery always found better genetics out of regs, as I'm sure most people could attest to as well. Im just getting tired of running multiple seeds to find the 1 girl I want. It takes too much time and a lot of space honestly. Considering I'm downsizing my veg/mom cab will be just big enough for 4 ladies roughly 2'x2' in growth. So fems seem ideal as far as that goes. But you make a valid point. I wish I had access to endless clone varaties. I'm in the wrong state.

 

[mucha_mota]

im in the wrong state and hold a bunch of killer cuts. whatchu mean? blue dream has a tendency to grow single cola. i have the clone only from santa cruz. she's a bomb plant. crticial can be run sog. selection will be important. you dont need to grow lots of plants for huge selection thats a misnomer. you can by a few to several packs of something & run them over time. & im sure green crack could run sog. i had a great cut of GC from the pnw. let that go. not my fav. but would definitely run sog. you can run alot of strains sog. once you start cutting on mothers they give cuts that node up a different way. and when you pick a good mother with proper node spacing, good stacking, sog tendency , fast growth, fast flower, fast rooting , you will see what i mean. out of all the choices you listed id go w/ grape god. never ran it. but your list of strains mostly sucks. you can maximize whatever you like. sog is only one way to skin the cat.

 

[Thefarmer12]

List doesn't seem too bad for SOG choices. Anything Indica/hybrid will usually do just fine in SOG. Some strains will want to shoot out side branches no matter what (gsc/gsc crosses) but otherwise you can truly SOG anything.

Anything Sativa/Sativa dom such as the Diesel you listed may not be a great choice but it can be done. My White Widow cut I've had for years is more on the Sativa side but still does great in SOG. Just flower the Sativa Strains asap. I usually flower as soon as clones root or 1-2 weeks if from seed.

Most people like to SOG with the same/similar strains to keep an even canopy but I usually run multiple strains without much of an issue. This way you can take clones and run the ones that do well again the next round

Any other assistance just let me know. Ive run SOG since I started about 10 yrs ago so I've got it down to a science now. Good luck buddy!

 

[rickymac21]

im in the wrong state and hold a bunch of killer cuts. whatchu mean? blue dream has a tendency to grow single cola. i have the clone only from santa cruz. she's a bomb plant. crticial can be run sog. selection will be important. you dont need to grow lots of plants for huge selection thats a misnomer. you can by a few to several packs of something & run them over time. & im sure green crack could run sog. i had a great cut of GC from the pnw. let that go. not my fav. but would definitely run sog. you can run alot of strains sog. once you start cutting on mothers they give cuts that node up a different way. and when you pick a good mother with proper node spacing, good stacking, sog tendency , fast growth, fast flower, fast rooting , you will see what i mean. out of all the choices you listed id go w/ grape god. never ran it. but your list of strains mostly sucks. you can maximize whatever you like. sog is only one way to skin the cat.

Not my first rodeo there cowboy.. just so you know though, there is a wrong way to skin a cat.. any strain can grow in a sog style yes.. some strains are are genetically notortuous for producing elongated dense colas.. Since I'm drastically downsizing the scale of the grow, my focus is now maximizing the yield from the small space to accommodate that change. So while I can put 32 cuts of an og strain in and yield a respectable amount, I can put a haze hybrid in and produce twice as much.

 

[rickymac21]

List doesn't seem too bad for SOG choices. Anything Indica/hybrid will usually do just fine in SOG. Some strains will want to shoot out side branches no matter what (gsc/gsc crosses) but otherwise you can truly SOG anything.

Anything Sativa/Sativa dom such as the Diesel you listed may not be a great choice but it can be done. My White Widow cut I've had for years is more on the Sativa side but still does great in SOG. Just flower the Sativa Strains asap. I usually flower as soon as clones root or 1-2 weeks if from seed.

Most people like to SOG with the same/similar strains to keep an even canopy but I usually run multiple strains without much of an issue. This way you can take clones and run the ones that do well again the next round

Any other assistance just let me know. Ive run SOG since I started about 10 yrs ago so I've got it down to a science now. Good luck buddy!

Thanks you kind sir. The idea is to end up with 4 mother plants of 2 different strains. The plants from seeds won't be flowered, they'll just be used for mothers. But I'll cycle between the 2 strains every harvest so it'll be 1 strain in the flower room to keep a level canopy.
Is your issue with the diesel simply the height factor, being it's a sativa Dom?

 

[Thefarmer12]

Thanks you kind sir. The idea is to end up with 4 mother plants of 2 different strains. The plants from seeds won't be flowered, they'll just be used for mothers. But I'll cycle between the 2 strains every harvest so it'll be 1 strain in the flower room to keep a level canopy.
Is your issue with the diesel simply the height factor, being it's a sativa Dom?

Yeah height factor was my thinking. I frequently do Sativa doms and some end up fine but yield has lacked here and there with them. I also usually SOG in 1-2 L pots so that does effect yield tbh. Some also stretch to the point where I have to super crop them just to keep it even which defeats the purpose.

I say try a bit of everything. I always have rounds where I throw new strains in the mix and you will find certain uniform phenos that are perfect for SOG and can run them again.

Good idea using moms and clones. SOG always runs infinitely smoother with clones.

 

[kmog33]

The best advice I can give for yielding well in sog is to run the strains first to see how they perform to see if they are even compatible with sog type growing. Your looking for fast growers with strong apical dominance. And one strain is way easier to deal with than multiple unless you have multiple lights to be able to adjust for plant height/stretch. Uniformity is also pretty important.


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[Kswisss]

I have a pheno of hso blue dream that would make a perfect sog strain..

 

[mucha_mota]

Not my first rodeo there cowboy.. just so you know though, there is a wrong way to skin a cat.. any strain can grow in a sog style yes.. some strains are are genetically notortuous for producing elongated dense colas.. Since I'm drastically downsizing the scale of the grow, my focus is now maximizing the yield from the small space to accommodate that change. So while I can put 32 cuts of an og strain in and yield a respectable amount, I can put a haze hybrid in and produce twice as much.

if its not your first rodeo & you can run 32 cuts, why would you turn on lamps to run dinafem when the quality of the product is gonna matter in the end? now you have all these critical+ nugz. & that garbage doesnt even comes close to the sfv , gg#4, & pink cheese nugz i produce (for example). ask any random grower here.

which would you prefer to smoke?
even better, which is gonna make you killer smoke?
or whats gonna bring those clients back to your door?

dinafem?

gorilla glue #4 ?

now turn on about 4000w. which is the high value target ?

 

[rickymac21]

if its not your first rodeo & you can run 32 cuts, why would you turn on lamps to run dinafem when the quality of the product is gonna matter in the end? now you have all these critical+ nugz. & that garbage doesnt even comes close to the sfv , gg#4, & pink cheese nugz i produce (for example). ask any random grower here.

which would you prefer to smoke?
even better, which is gonna make you killer smoke?
or whats gonna bring those clients back to your door?

dinafem?

gorilla glue #4 ?

now turn on about 4000w. which is the high value target ?

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Been running 4000w for some time now. Like i said, im downsizing. I understand what your saying bud, your obviously not understanding me. The truth is every product has a price tag and there's always someone willing to pay it. Just as you have the option to spend $15k on a shit new car, $30k on a respectable new car or $100k for something extravagant. Same principal. Besides, some people couldn't tell the difference between name brand cereal and knock offs if you had it in front of their face.
That being said, I posted this thread in hopes to find commercial strains (single cola dominant, notorious large yields) that produce a decent quality in the end. I've smoked blue dream and enjoyed the taste, as well as green crack. However I would like to know the validity of the genetics in seed form.

Now if you have a suggestion for a strain that I can purchase in seed form that fits my criteria, by all means share. I'm all ears. But I don't need any more lessons on marketing tactics.

 

[Thefarmer12]

Been running 4000w for some time now. Like i said, im downsizing. I understand what your saying bud, your obviously not understanding me. The truth is every product has a price tag and there's always someone willing to pay it. Just as you have the option to spend $15k on a shit new car, $30k on a respectable new car or $100k for something extravagant. Same principal. Besides, some people couldn't tell the difference between name brand cereal and knock offs if you had it in front of their face.
That being said, I posted this thread in hopes to find commercial strains (single cola dominant, notorious large yields) that produce a decent quality in the end. I've smoked blue dream and enjoyed the taste, as well as green crack. However I would like to know the validity of the genetics in seed form.

Now if you have a suggestion for a strain that I can purchase in seed form that fits my criteria, by all means share. I'm all ears. But I don't need any more lessons on marketing tactics.

If you're looking for commercial dutch/euro genetics are the way to go. Critical super silver haze from Delicious just yielded enormous for me. The dutch and euro growers have lighter laws which results in years of selection in large, large grows. Not to knock US based stuff as I mostly grow connoisseur strains myself.

Either way I disagree with mucha. Your strain selection is for you to decide. It's a matter of opinion.

 

[mucha_mota]

dutch/euro? that lemon in super lemon haze comes from where? soma he's from? that katsu cut you guys slut around from where? blueberry from where? dna crew where they from? what genetics they pimp? th seed dude from where? those genetics euro? sam the skunkman from where? why did you dudes breed skunk #1 into everything? if anything europe has the most hacks pimpimg pollen on the entire planet. & lets be real. i can grab 18 to 21g of an og variant which will def be straight fire. chemdawg influences even the euro crowd. they love it. pass it around. that comes from where? riri that famous cut of sour d basically came from where? for a 10 pack of anything listed id grab something from dynasty, bodhi (& he has some FAT haze hybrids) , archive, topdawg, or anybody else. like i noted next gen is your best bet from your list. & its true your space is yours to grow. ive done all the spanish stuff. delicious seeds should give me $ for even growing so much gear from their catalog. compared to what? a good plant from tga? exotic? bodhi? lol ! but lets be real critical+ its not even close to the potency of a classic cultivar imo. my vote really didnt matter. but i still vote dinafem sucks. go with known dank.

 

[rickymac21]

dutch/euro? that lemon in super lemon haze comes from where? soma he's from? that katsu cut you guys slut around from where? blueberry from where? dna crew where they from? what genetics they pimp? th seed dude from where? those genetics euro? sam the skunkman from where? why did you dudes breed skunk #1 into everything? if anything europe has the most hacks pimpimg pollen on the entire planet. & lets be real. i can grab 18 to 21g of an og variant which will def be straight fire. chemdawg influences even the euro crowd. they love it. pass it around. that comes from where? riri that famous cut of sour d basically came from where? for a 10 pack of anything listed id grab something from dynasty, bodhi (& he has some FAT haze hybrids) , archive, topdawg, or anybody else. like i noted next gen is your best bet from your list. & its true your space is yours to grow. ive done all the spanish stuff. delicious seeds should give me $ for even growing so much gear from their catalog. compared to what? a good plant from tga? exotic? bodhi? lol ! but lets be real critical+ its not even close to the potency of a classic cultivar imo. my vote really didnt matter. but i still vote dinafem sucks. go with known dank.

Despite the rambling, I appreciate your input. I will indeed look into the breeders you mentioned

 

[bict]

I had 3 hso blue dreams and they were fantastic. Really bush. My dp are the plants I grew, didn't even scrog, just topped once.

 

[rickymac21]

dutch/euro? that lemon in super lemon haze comes from where? soma he's from? that katsu cut you guys slut around from where? blueberry from where? dna crew where they from? what genetics they pimp? th seed dude from where? those genetics euro? sam the skunkman from where? why did you dudes breed skunk #1 into everything? if anything europe has the most hacks pimpimg pollen on the entire planet. & lets be real. i can grab 18 to 21g of an og variant which will def be straight fire. chemdawg influences even the euro crowd. they love it. pass it around. that comes from where? riri that famous cut of sour d basically came from where? for a 10 pack of anything listed id grab something from dynasty, bodhi (& he has some FAT haze hybrids) , archive, topdawg, or anybody else. like i noted next gen is your best bet from your list. & its true your space is yours to grow. ive done all the spanish stuff. delicious seeds should give me $ for even growing so much gear from their catalog. compared to what? a good plant from tga? exotic? bodhi? lol ! but lets be real critical+ its not even close to the potency of a classic cultivar imo. my vote really didnt matter. but i still vote dinafem sucks. go with known dank.

I do like some of these strains bodhi has to offer... most of them are out of stock.
I had my eyes onot these, let me know if you any experience with them ?
Dream beaver
Silver mountain
Mountain temple
Snow leopard

 

[mucha_mota]

the temple line is FAT.

 

[shushubandora]

Yeah height factor was my thinking. I frequently do Sativa doms and some end up fine but yield has lacked here and there with them. I also usually SOG in 1-2 L pots so that does effect yield tbh. ...

1liter is tiny pot. how many plants do you have per 100W?

I was thinking I am doing SOG with 6 plants / 100W using 10 liter pots... guess I was wrong

 

[sky rocket]

I grew a true sog about 2 years ago with Dna Tangie although I don't remember the yield but it was a pretty good sog. I've known a guy who ran ken's granddaddy purple back in the days from this forum and did well with it. Serious seeds chronic is suppose to be a good sog because it has very minimal side branching according to the description of it. Good luck and keep us posted on your grow.