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UniDragon

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Here are some pics that I just took a little while ago. She has been in "flushing mode" for a week now and still does not have any clear or amber trichs yet. I removed the panels all the way around because she has outgrown The Tron in width and some of her buds and leaves are being damaged by the constant rubbing against the lights and panels so I just took them off. (Long sigh of frustration...) this is taking sooooo long for her to finish. I really hope that she is ready to harvest within the week, but I don't know. Any opinions, comments, advice or criticisms (any feedback at all) would be very much appreciated.

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Not sure how to answer "how long". She sprouted Nov 30(?) and has been flushing for a week now. I am flushing with molasses, filtered tap water and ph'ing to 6.1-6.5.

I agree that it could be a lighting issue in that my Tron does not have a reflector so I am losing a lot of light from the top bulb.
 
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twistedentities said:
Suks it's taking so long. How many days about? I'm finding the second gen of beans to be real slow. im around 60 days and it looks like another 60. All 5 are very sativa Dom. I'm thinking low lighting could be slowing you down. My lighting was different in mine so I can't say for sure.
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Do you think that I ruined this project by putting the 6500k bulb back in for flushing?
 
GrowJahsGift

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I'd say go 24 hours till end man! Add some Extra light if possible. A lot of ppl have issues with plants not finishing. Mainly hybrids from what I've seen sat dominance will some time cause you to need to switch your timer to a 13 on 11 off schedule to finally finish up. My Jack dom Agent Orange from a cpl years ago were like that 78 days flower and just showing some milky triches until i switched then within 4-5 days I had enough Amber to chop. Anyway I'd say if they sprouted Nov30 most take 21-28 days to start flower you'd be a little over 60 days flower? Maybe go another week and see what's up then? Can correct the dates I'm just speculating lol.
 
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GrowJahsGift said:
I'd say go 24 hours till end man! Add some Extra light if possible. A lot of ppl have issues with plants not finishing. Mainly hybrids from what I've seen sat dominance will some time cause you to need to switch your timer to a 13 on 11 off schedule to finally finish up. My Jack dom Agent Orange from a cpl years ago were like that 78 days flower and just showing some milky triches until i switched then within 4-5 days I had enough Amber to chop. Anyway I'd say if they sprouted Nov30 most take 21-28 days to start flower you'd be a little over 60 days flower? Maybe go another week and see what's up then? Can correct the dates I'm just speculating lol.
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I agree that I should give her another week, just to see if she does finally get some milky trichs. If I can just get her to produce all milky trichs then I will be happy with that, I think...based on what i have read anyway. I think that 1.) I am impatient because I really want to get my next project going like yesterday and 2.) I really abused her toward the beginning by screwing up the ph, not feeding her on time and torching her didn't help, coupled with skipping the last week of veg probably didn't help her out either. So maybe it's just me obsessing about nothing; but I really want to get my other project rolling and can't do both at the same time. If by chance she hasn't made any improvement by next Monday, March 14, I will take your advisement and switch to 24 hour light. Maybe that will help.

Anyway, hey thanks for looking out for me and offering your advice, that really means a lot to me.
 
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twistedentities said:
View attachment 3624887 Definitely 24hrs.
Here's a few poor pics of the second gen.
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By second generation, you mean you found seeds in the buds from The Vault seeds and sprouted them? They look great!
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View attachment 3624887 Definitely 24hrs.
Here's a few poor pics of the second gen.
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So, Twisted, would you agree that by putting her back into 24 hour light that she may speed up the "finishing" stage. I have decided to wait for another week to see what happens but after the 14th I have to do something to speed her along or maybe just harvest her at that time and accept failure.
 
UniDragon

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twistedentities said:
Yeah, I had a few beans in some bottom buds. I would give me them as much light as possible the last week. I've never up timed my lighting, but at this point, I don't think it'll cause negatives.
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Ok cool. Two very reliable sources tell me to go to 24 hour light so I am logging off and turning her light on 24 hours until she turns milky and then hopefully get some amber in her.

Thanks a lot to the both of you; you have really helped me out! Maybe someday I will be able to help you two out as much as you have helped me.
 
twistedentities

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UniDragon said:
Ok cool. Two very reliable sources tell me to go to 24 hour light so I am logging off and turning her light on 24 hours until she turns milky and then hopefully get some amber in her.

Thanks a lot to the both of you; you have really helped me out! Maybe someday I will be able to help you two out as much as you have helped me.
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I'm not sure how small they make them but I wonder if a 50wt mh or hps could be retrod at the top. Or look in a reefing site for fuge lighting. A fuge in reefing grows macro algae and some require strong lighting in tight spots...while not heating the water.
 
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UniDragon

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twistedentities said:
For example, I use these in my refugiums and the growth is amazing. They stay cool and survived a very salty environment lol.
http://www.marinedepot.com/Innovative_Marine_AUQA_Gadget_MagnaFuge_LED_Refugium_Light_Refugium_Sump_Lighting-Innovative_Marine-0I51043-FIRFRL-vi.html
Not too much light to burn them, but just enough to do the job in a small spot
A small mh retro looks like it'd be around 35$ to retro. Not sure how heat would be.
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Yeah, I found some 35 watt mh and lps, (Low Pressure Sodium) bulbs that I thought would do the job perfect; the kelvin on those was a lot closer to perfect than a cfl. I was afraid to try them because I don't know if the ballast would be able to handle them. Once this project is over I am debating taking The Tron apart and maybe switching out some parts. But, then again, if this doesn't work out the way I hope it does then I will either sell it or trade it for a 250/400 switchable/dimmable ballast. I find them on CL and Ebay from time to time that are somewhat affordable. There is a Lumatek that I have had my eye on CL for a while now. They claim it is brand new and asking $90.00, as an example.
 
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So, I took the advice of GrowJahsGift and Twistedentities and switched Ripley back to 24 hour light. I also put the 2700k bulb back in too. Oh, :), and I found out the my Phresh carbon filter really does work. All this time I thought that maybe I was doing something wrong because of lack of smell/stench. I could go into the tent, open The Tron and cut, trim, bend branches...whatever I wanted to do with Ripley and absolutely no smell whatsoever. Well, I blew a breaker yesterday and of course it's Sunday so a lot of stores are closed which means it took some time to locate and purchase the right breaker. The whole process to about 4 hours. Within that 4 hours, the whole half of the house reeked; I mean like evacuate a small town and call Hazmat reek. I was convinced, until yesterday, that I had done something else wrong because there was no smell. HA! No, I didn't do anything wrong, the filter works great! If all goes as planned, hopefully I will be harvesting within the week...let's hope. :-D
 
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I've used the same 600 hps for over 9 yrs. I paid 120$. It gets new bulbs every 6 months and has never let me down. My 400 I paid 150$ in a cool tube. They are cheapo so but do a good job. Nothing wrong with cheap lamps. Next fall, I'll be firing up the gavitas though. I'd like to step things up a few notches lol
 
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twistedentities

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That's awesome you got some stinky going on. Lol, my first grow indoors was 9 plants in the attic. Never smelled them till the power went out in a winter storm. House smelled so strong, I just knew the house at the end of my street could smell it! Lmao....all in paranoia. The smell lingered for days. My best friend is a cop in the local pd. He knew I smoked but that was it. I was shtting bricks for days thinking he was gonna pop in lol. He's my best friend and I trust him without bounds but would never want to put him in that spot of his job or friendship. those we're a scary few days lol
 
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