Forbes; Booming Pot Industry Is Draining the U.S. Energy Supply

Should something be done to encourage the marijuana industry to be more energy efficient?

  • Yes, tax excessive power use

    Votes: 10 17.9%

  • Yes, subsidize the purchase of efficient equipment

    Votes: 18 32.1%

  • No, there's enough industry regulation already!

    Votes: 28 50.0%
  • Total voters
    56
ttystikk

ttystikk

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VegasWinner said:
actually the pay back is quicker than you realize, and you only store when you are not using. I managed major solar systems and they pay for themselves quickly. cheap to maintain and operate. You just need some engineering background and it is easy. Sun light only hurts your eyes, not your wallet.
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You'll notice I didn't say no to any of the listed options, I merely pointed out individual weaknesses- and then mentioned how they'd work very well together.

I still feel this way. Solar isn't the whole answer, none of these individual options is. But collectively they can do the job currently done by Big Coal cheaper and cleaner. Killing the power utility monopolies in this country will help unshackle our economy and let it rev up and thus create wider prosperity.
 
nevergoodenuf

nevergoodenuf

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I have seen one Solar system, somewhere, that heated salt to it's melting point to power the turbines thru out the night. History channel I think. Makes solar a stand alone power source.
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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The best solution is a balanced blend of power sources. None are perfect -- even solar. Solar is climate dependant. Not only do clouds fuck with it, volcanic activity could cripple production around the planet. Remember Tambora? It could happen again...
 
Isawthelight

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Back in daddy's day when America was a manufacturing powerhouse of productivity, most factories had railroad tracks leading their on-site coal fired power plant. Heck, on my last job, the coal train made me late for work more than a few times, when it was making deliveries to a Philip Morris cigarette factory. PM USA burnt coal in Richmond while building solar in the county. https://www.dom.com/corporate/news/news-releases/136994
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Isawthelight said:
Back in daddy's day when America was a manufacturing powerhouse of productivity, most factories had railroad tracks leading their on-site coal fired power plant. Heck, on my last job, the coal train made me late for work more than a few times, when it was making deliveries to a Philip Morris cigarette factory. PM USA burnt coal in Richmond while building solar in the county. https://www.dom.com/corporate/news/news-releases/136994
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Why, thank you, Sir. That was highly educational!
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Chunky Stool said:
The best solution is a balanced blend of power sources. None are perfect -- even solar. Solar is climate dependant. Not only do clouds fuck with it, volcanic activity could cripple production around the planet. Remember Tambora? It could happen again...
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No weather event can stop natural gas going through a pipeline, which is why I'm suggesting its use in home based fuel cell cogeneration equipment. Heat, electrical power, co2, even water vapor are all useful byproducts of fuel cell operation, all of which can then be utilised by the residents, excess could even sold back to the power grid. Using both power and heat from the process is a long step up the efficiency curve than just getting one or the other.

Again, it provides a big step forward and is still highly compatible with the other technologies discussed above. Fuel cells can be throttled up and down, thus providing an ideal backstop for the intermittent generation patterns of other sources.
 
bicit

bicit

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ttystikk said:
No weather event can stop natural gas going through a pipeline, which is why I'm suggesting its use in home based fuel cell cogeneration equipment. Heat, electrical power, co2, even water vapor are all useful byproducts of fuel cell operation, all of which can then be utilised by the residents, excess could even sold back to the power grid. Using both power and heat from the process is a long step up the efficiency curve than just getting one or the other.

Again, it provides a big step forward and is still highly compatible with the other technologies discussed above. Fuel cells can be throttled up and down, thus providing an ideal backstop for the intermittent generation patterns of other sources.
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Works great if you have a pipe line and infrastructure in place for it.

Not so nice if you have your gas supply in a tank. I know im one of the rare few in my area with a natural gas line and it costs mega bucks to have one put in.

It's all situation dependant.
 
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VegasWinner

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America makes energy from coal as number one source. West Virginia and Arizona re the two largest coal mining states. Number two energy source is Nuclear Power plants. Most NPP are over twenty years old and have not been upgraded ever. Dangerous source, think three mile island. Coal ash is piling up around the country from burning coal to make energy nation-wide. Issues with renewable energy. Wind energy creates unnatural relationship protecting rats from birds of prey, leading to pest infestations at wind farms. Solar Power needs batteries to function efficiently. Elon Musk is building the biggest solar battery plant in the world, in the Nevada desert, with 100% renewable energy. Systems are being made available to major corporations for energy management.

Today, any homeowner can put up solar if there are no local regulations regarding appearances. Add a panel or two, or three, and some LED's and you could grow for the rest of your life with maybe 2592 SI. or three 2'x3' solar panels. Direct wired to a solar wall to power an entire grow operation year-round at no cost for energy. that would include air conditioning costs as well. I have used solar panels direct connected to appliances, stoves, refrigerators, microwave, etc, and no problem. All you need is some voltage converting equipment, along with some stepping up transformers, etc, and some deep cycle marine batteries; now Elon Musk batteries and you are good to go for life, until they blow up the sun that is.
peace.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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a mongo frog said:
But whats all the talk about a new bin? People said new bin is coming out. When?
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Chips have been testing into the 'new' top bin for awhile now. I guess they're getting a high enough proportion of them to announce a new bin though regular sales channels. They'll be available this spring. I'm making sure my next and all subsequent panels use the new top bin; after all, they don't charge more so why not?
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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ttystikk said:
Chips have been testing into the 'new' top bin for awhile now. I guess they're getting a high enough proportion of them to announce a new bin though regular sales channels. They'll be available this spring. I'm making sure my next and all subsequent panels use the new top bin; after all, they don't charge more so why not?
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When is spring? Like april?
 
bicit

bicit

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VegasWinner said:
Today, any homeowner can put up solar if there are no local regulations regarding appearances. Add a panel or two, or three, and some LED's and you could grow for the rest of your life with maybe 2592 SI. or three 2'x3' solar panels. Direct wired to a solar wall to power an entire grow operation year-round at no cost for energy. that would include air conditioning costs as well. I have used solar panels direct connected to appliances, stoves, refrigerators, microwave, etc, and no problem. All you need is some voltage converting equipment, along with some stepping up transformers, etc, and some deep cycle marine batteries; now Elon Musk batteries and you are good to go for life, until they blow up the sun that is.
peace.
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How much power would a 2'x3' panel be able to produce during peak hours and a clear sky? What is 2592SI?
 
saiyaneye

saiyaneye

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They pay a power bill. Look at the power bill of ANY factory! It's outrageous. I dont see why they are trying to do this.
 
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