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Hybridway

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Abiqua said:
pops you make me laugh....so what makes you right without proof as well, what a fucked statement.

Hybrid think that paying 3x-4x the cost for the SAME efficiency aka PHOTON delivery is a such a great deal :)



Again Lumens emitted has nothing to do with what type of PAR is actually being emitted @pop22 but I don't think you realize the argument...
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3-4X the price of what? A DIY after learning, making tons of mistakes before getting it right? Ordering maybe the right parts to build it if you're lucky the first 3-4 X. I am happy to pay a $G over all that hassle any day! Growing is far more important to me then trying to build. So, I ask, what commercial panel does Amare or Fluence Bio (like them too but don't even own one yet) cost 3-4X more then that will provide me with as good quality & service? Please tell me, Please??? I will buy one. Even if you're the maker!
 
Dlowsky

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So yea I would love to buy a spydr some day but in the meantime I'm on a tight budget, maybe I can afford the spydr after 1 or 2 grows. But what's the thoughts on 2 Mars hydro 144s in a 4x4 tent with 2 ladies scrogged as a first indoor grow? Both from a quality and quantity perspective
 
bggrass

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Hybridway said:
3-4X the price of what? A DIY after learning, making tons of mistakes before getting it right? Ordering maybe the right parts to build it if you're lucky the first 3-4 X. I am happy to pay a $G over all that hassle any day! Growing is far more important to me then trying to build. So, I ask, what commercial panel does Amare or Fluence Bio (like them too but don't even own one yet) cost 3-4X more then that will provide me with as good quality & service? Please tell me, Please??? I will buy one. Even if you're the maker!
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Alright, we heard that you have an amare. If anyone is moved by it, will visit your thread.
 
giantsfan24

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pop22 said:
no, they are NOT less efficient than CFL, which are terribly inefficient actually. where did you get that idea from? Even the crappiest LED growlight you can find is better than CFL! And let's see you CFL's do this, which is a crappy, 67 true watts, DIY, using E27 "15" watt LED bulbs..
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nice looking setup. What size is your space?
 
David Pasta

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Hybridway said:
3-4X the price of what? A DIY after learning, making tons of mistakes before getting it right? Ordering maybe the right parts to build it if you're lucky the first 3-4 X. I am happy to pay a $G over all that hassle any day! Growing is far more important to me then trying to build. So, I ask, what commercial panel does Amare or Fluence Bio (like them too but don't even own one yet) cost 3-4X more then that will provide me with as good quality & service? Please tell me, Please??? I will buy one. Even if you're the maker!
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They sell in Europe Spider Vero 29 4 chip grow,4 chip bloom and 10 x Osram oslon fhoto red 660nm for 581Eur.
http://ledideal.cz/www/led-grow-vero29/
 
Growlem

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Is a flower-initiator really that much of an advantage to have in a diy grow op?

What I need for that is Infrared LEDs to be turned off for 5 minutes at any point in "night mode" or 2 hours before the lights go on, in order to "fool the flowers that the day has 26 hours", is that correct?
 
Dlowsky

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REALSTYLES said:
About $700 if you make one like mine 400w
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What size tent would you recommend for a light like that? I'm looking to do a 2 plant scrog in a 3x3 or 4x4, or to flip the question what size light/ parts would I need to do well in these tent sizes, 700$ a bit much for a first time indoor grow especially to do it myself. I would prefer to purchase something pre fabricated
 
bggrass

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Dlowsky said:
What size tent would you recommend for a light like that? I'm looking to do a 2 plant scrog in a 3x3 or 4x4, or to flip the question what size light/ parts would I need to do well in these tent sizes, 700$ a bit much for a first time indoor grow especially to do it myself. I would prefer to purchase something pre fabricated
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You can do a two plant scrog in a 2 x 2 ft. What's the yield you're looking for from a single grow? $700 might seem steep, but if you jump on it, it will save you money in the long run, instead of buying and tossing premade lights. Think it through. Are you gonna do this for the years to come, or is it a one grow thing.
 
Dlowsky

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bggrass said:
You can do a two plant scrog in a 2 x 2 ft. What's the yield you're looking for from a single grow? $700 might seem steep, but if you jump on it, it will save you money in the long run, instead of buying and tossing premade lights. Think it through. Are you gonna do this for the years to come, or is it a one grow thing.
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Right now I'm still young and actually doing a lot of moving around a lot. But one thing for sure is that after my first grow (it was outdoor) I definitely fell in love with it. I'm actually admittedly not that big of a smoker (although I do enjoy it!), but the cultivation to me was very captivating and rewarding and even making butter from the trim was awesome too :p being it my 1st indoor grow I am not sure what to expect as yields go but after 1 or 2 trial and error runs I am definitely shooting for 16 zips on the 3rd go around. Planning out right now I'll know if I am moving into a new apartment in July or August and I'll be there for a minimum of 9 months
 
REALSTYLES

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Hybridway said:
3-4X the price of what? A DIY after learning, making tons of mistakes before getting it right? Ordering maybe the right parts to build it if you're lucky the first 3-4 X. I am happy to pay a $G over all that hassle any day! Growing is far more important to me then trying to build. So, I ask, what commercial panel does Amare or Fluence Bio (like them too but don't even own one yet) cost 3-4X more then that will provide me with as good quality & service? Please tell me, Please??? I will buy one. Even if you're the maker!
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Please stop. You are gonna make me say something I shouldn't. I wanna be nice but what you are saying is making me mad. I've already spoke with the owner of Sun Cloak about you. It's great you have his light but don't muddy up his light with BS. Get a finished grow before you boast about how good the lights are.
 
Hybridway

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REALSTYLES said:
Please stop. You are gonna make me say something I shouldn't. I wanna be nice but what you are saying is making me mad. I've already spoke with the owner of Sun Cloak about you. It's great you have his light but don't muddy up his light with BS. Get a finished grow before you boast about how good the lights are.
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Not boasting about any light. Just saying, I'm no idiot because I bought something like homeboy keeps saying. I'd love to build but I bought. And didn't do it blindly. I'm testing my lights for all to see & will give a fair & honest opinion from use. Al-B just knocks anything that's not a vendor or DIY or anything I say & it's getting sickening. Dude says shit that makes no sense. Can we not talk about this further pls, I doubt others want to read it.
 
Abiqua

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Hybridway said:
Not boasting about any light. Just saying, I'm no idiot because I bought something like homeboy keeps saying. I'd love to build but I bought. And didn't do it blindly. I'm testing my lights for all to see & will give a fair & honest opinion from use. Al-B just knocks anything that's not a vendor or DIY or anything I say & it's getting sickening. Dude says shit that makes no sense. Can we not talk about this further pls, I doubt others want to read it.
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Of course you don't want other to read it....then they might actually think for themselves...

Stop putting words in my mouth....you keep claiming I am badmouthing the product....I am bad mouthing your lack of radiometric knowledge that is all......No name calling needed here. But thanks again for proving my point...:peace:
 
Hybridway

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Abiqua said:
Of course you don't want other to read it....then they might actually think for themselves...

Stop putting words in my mouth....you keep claiming I am badmouthing the product....I am bad mouthing your lack of radiometric knowledge that is all......No name calling needed here. But thanks again for proving my point...:peace:
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Ok, never claimed to know radiometrics. Still have no idea what your point is? Did try to talk to you so maybe I could better understand but I see that was a big mistake. PM means public message to you. Not cool! I understand enough to make educated decisions & purchases therefor I deserve to be here & may be able to help others just as you are. So, let's grow & get along. Peace!
 
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