Wha do you guys add to R/O water?

jijiandfarmgang

jijiandfarmgang

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since1991 said:
Hemp and cannabis are well known and very efficient "accumulator" plants for toxic ground leaching and heavy metals. I wonder if Flint growers (there quite a few) are doing much about the lead in the tap water they are feeding to the crops? I wonder if that lead trace will end up in final product? Sorry this is off topic.....iam baked... getting ready for bed and my thoughts are rambling.
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PSI labs sent this link to members,

http://ireadculture.com/the-flint-water-crisis-is-affecting-cannabis-growth-in-michigan/

- Jiji
 
kmog33

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Also the main reason people i think use RO water is to not have chlorine But again contrary to popular belief
Chlorine is a essential element for plant growth its rather really important
and yes even with my no till grows and garden grows i always will give them a treat from tap water instead of always using rain water

Chlorine is actually one of the more plentiful elements on the entire planet. It is found all around us, abundant in soils, minerals, plants and even animals. Seawater is a major collector of dissolved Chlorine. It gathers Chlorine from corroded elements that are transported from, the continents by rivers.

But, how long have we known about this wonder element? Chlorine (Cl) was discovered in 1774, just two years prior to the signing of the Declaration of Independence. It was discovered when a pharmacist from Sweden released just a few drops of hydrochloric acid on a piece of manganese. When he did this, there was a greenish-yellow gas that was released and chlorine was discovered. The strange gas wasn’t identified as chlorine until 1810, but that was the original discovery of the chlorine gas.

Chlorine has a number of benefits to plant growth. Many people make the common mistake of mixing up the plant nutrient chloride (Cl-) with the toxic form chlorine (Cl). Chloride is vital for many different plant functions, despite only being classified as a micronutrient. It is highly essential, combined with the element potassium (K+), for the proper function of the plants stomatal openings. Through the utilization of these two elements, the plant is able to control its internal water balance.

That is not the only role which chloride plays in plants. It also plays a very important part in photosynthesis, particularly in helping to control the hydrolysis process. It also aids in the process of cation balance as well as the transport of ions and nutrients throughout the plant system. There is even some research that shows Cl can lessen the effects of fungal infections in a way that hasn’t yet been defined. Research continues to be done on the role of chloride in plant growth. Some people speculate that Cl actually competes with nitrate uptake tending to promote the use of ammonium nitrate. This could explain the possible role that Cl takes in the suppression of some plant diseases because high plant nitrates have a strong association with the seriousness of plant diseases. The higher the amount of nitrates, the more likely that plant disease could be expected to be.

A majority of soil Cl is extremely soluble and found in the soil as the chloride anion. In that form it is extremely mobile except where it is held by soil anion exchange sites. One major factor that can affect how much Cl is available for the plant to uptake. As chloride, nitrate, sulfate, boron and molybdenum are all anions, as one is found in excess, there is less available of the other. If chloride levels in a plant are too high, there is a possibility of toxicity. Some of the signs and symptoms that accompany chloride toxicity are very similar to the problems associated with salt damage. The sizes of the leaves could be smaller in diameter but thicker. Plant growth is stunted, the margins between leaves becomes scorched.

Stubby roots, wilting, yellowing in the leaves or a bronzing are just some of the signs of a lower level of Cl. In order to combat Cl deficiencies and diseases or problems that are caused with insufficient Cl, check out the Nutrition Solutions offered by Dyna-Gro (Grow, Foliage-Pro, Bloom). This complete nutrient solution is one possible way, once you have discovered that you have a low level of Cl in your plants, to restore the balance.
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Chlorine and chloramine evaporate in like 24-48 hours though once outside the tap yeah? faster if you're constantly aerating the water.


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since1991

since1991

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kmog33 said:
Chlorine and chloramine evaporate in like 24-48 hours though once outside the tap yeah? faster if you're constantly aerating the water.


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Chloramine...not so much. That shit likes to stick around much moreso than regular chlorine. Vitamin c crushed up in your tanks i heard can get rid of chloramines but ive never tried it.
 
kmog33

kmog33

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since1991 said:
Chloramine...not so much. That shit likes to stick around much moreso than regular chlorine. Vitamin c crushed up in your tanks i heard can get rid of chloramines but ive never tried it.
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I have a saltwater aquarium and everything I've found says chorine/chloramine evaporate fairly quickly. Other things in tap water, not as much. If you wanted to get rid of it fast you could just get aquarium water clarifier. Takes heavy metals, chlorine and chloramine out of your water. I do this for fish/corals, not plants lol.


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Resinhound

Resinhound

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since1991 said:
Chloramine...not so much. That shit likes to stick around much moreso than regular chlorine. Vitamin c crushed up in your tanks i heard can get rid of chloramines but ive never tried it.
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Yep I read the same,im treating my water with a little lemon juice when I set it out for the night.
 
kmog33

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I was half wrong. It's half life is longer.
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According to the U.S. EPA, because chloramine is more stable and does not dissipate as quickly as chlorine, chloramine provides better protection against bacterial re-growth, especially in water systems with large storage tanks and/or dead-end water mains.

The EPA maintains that, like chlorine, chloramine effectively controls biofilm, a bacterial growth that coats and corrodes pipes, and that can build up dangerous concentrations of coliform bacteria. But, whereas chlorine can dissipate by the time it reaches the end of a long water system, the chloramine still remains active and protective.

The EPA also considers chloramine to be safer than chlorine as a disinfectant because it produces less trihalomethanes (THM), a carcinogenic byproduct of water purification, than chlorine does. Chloramine also has a lower tendency than chlorine to convert organic materials in the water into carcinogenic chlorocarbons, such as chloroform and carbon tetrachloride."

"chloramine, which takes so long to evaporate that other methods of removal or neutralization are needed."

So yeah if you wanted t get rid of it you'd have to treat the water. Doesn't seem like the worst thing IMO for plants and our purposes.


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since1991

since1991

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Exactly....and almost all minicipal water supplies in America swtiched to chloramines years ago. Its not a big deal to me. Used to be...organic soil beds long ago. I dont pay it no mind anymore.
 
kmog33

kmog33

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since1991 said:
There ya go....aquarium nerds know whats up!!!!
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If you think bud is finicky with water params, fish and corals are a million times worse. Ph fluctuations kill your tank, salt level fluctuations kill your tank, temperature changes of mare than 5 or so degrees in a day can kill your tank.

Tons of nifty water additives and treatments for situations like this one though. Haha.


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kmog33

kmog33

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since1991 said:
Does it contain ascorbic acid??
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No idea never it's not for human consumption they don't have to list ingredients. They have ones that are more basic than this one that probably have less in them. They also buffer ph and freshwater tanks are closer to the ph levels we use so freshwater clarifier may be a better bet. It's also cheaper.



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Resinhound

Resinhound

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The one I have is a barley extract pond clarifier,supposed to be a natural,safe for fish and all that.Im gonna look into it more thanks kmogg.
 
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