Organic soil fertilizers to bring out the full flavor of cannabis?

[Akghostbuds420]

Hello fellow members I was wondering what are the best organic fertilizers for the flowering stage to bring out the full flavor profile of my cannabis. I am currently growing several strains in promix inside a greenhouse, anyone know of organic soil ferts for flavors.

 

[Andrew2112]

Bat Guano, greensand, sulphur containing amendments all have been touted as ways to enhance flavor. Personally I believe properly made compost along with a broad range of minerals brings out the best flavor

 

[Akghostbuds420]

How well does that greensand work?

 

[Andrew2112]

How well does that greensand work?

I've never tried it but this time I experimented with pescatarian super soil using a slightly modified version of @ganjamystic 's recipe and our buds have been tasting amazing! Greensand is used for the minerals and I have a bunch of azomite and I like the flavor of it a lot so never got around to trying greensand.

 

[Richard Drysift]

The dude at the hydro store I no longer frequent used to say guanos really bring the flavor but I think he was just trying to sell me more shit than I really needed at the time. Anyways fast forward a few years & im still not sure the dude was right or not but I can tell you guanos are great fertilizer & my dank tastes very dank these daze. I had not previously smoked any organic herb prior to growing it myself & the taste difference is remarkable. I think any weed grown in natural soil regardless of if you use meals or veganics will taste better than weed grown using dissolved salts. Whatever you add in your mix will be deposited into the tissue of your plants eventually so it makes perfect sense that a mix devoid of additives that do not occur in nature will make buds that reflect their genetic profile with no outside flavors added. Proven fertilizers I like to use in my own mix include:

Composted chicken manure
Seabird guano
Bat guano
Blood meal
Bone meal
Fresh EWC...I mean straight from the worms ass

That last one is most important and vital to my own op. Nothing is better the fresh castings & it really does make your soil alive & super active which makes happy resinous plants. Start up a worm bin today if growing organically is your goal; best thing you can do hands down.
Minerals add flavors much like good tasting water that contains high levels of minerals. Every time I recycle a root ball I add:
Azomite
Glacial rock dust
Garden gypsum
Crushed oyster flour
Soft rock phosphate

Hope that helps

 

[Richard Drysift]

How well does that greensand work?

I was adding greensand to my soil directly but I'm starting to run low now. It's a good amendment but it takes a year or more to see it actually working. I add it to my worm bin nowadays in hopes it will break down faster but I would add it if you have some on hand. Just don't expect to see results until it's been recycled a few times. Soft rock phosphate & other amendments are like this too but slow release is what organics is all about.

 

[hyroot]

Basalt rock dust, oyster shell flour, seed sprout teas, and good quality worm castings.

To really bring out the flavor you need high brix levels. And brix levels are the amount of minerals and sugars in the plant.


guano or shit or bone meal of any kind will not bring out flavor. Guano will actually make the smoke more harsh.

Green sand takes a couple years to break down so it won't do anything for your plants.

 

[Wetdog]

I was adding greensand to my soil directly but I'm starting to run low now. It's a good amendment but it takes a year or more to see it actually working. I add it to my worm bin nowadays in hopes it will break down faster but I would add it if you have some on hand. Just don't expect to see results until it's been recycled a few times. Soft rock phosphate & other amendments are like this too but slow release is what organics is all about.

I'm also adding greensand to the worm bins for the same reason, to get it started breaking down. IDK, perhaps the worms can use smaller stuff for grit, but I don't count on it and always add some play sand for grit.

I also add it to the mix, but only fresh made, since it's good for 3 years or so.

Wet

 

[Akghostbuds420]

Basalt rock dust, oyster shell flour, seed sprout teas, and good quality worm castings.

So far I've only grown in strait promix bx( an old timer told me it was the cheapest quality product, and that's all ya need.with fertilizers And good genetics. So far all my hands on experience has been with his one strain he gave me a clone of.) So how would I set up my first "organic grow", what soil do I start with, how do I incorporate those nutes into the soil.

 

[hyroot]

So far I've only grown in strait promix bx( an old timer told me it was the cheapest quality product, and that's all ya need.with fertilizers And good genetics. So far all my hands on experience has been with his one strain he gave me a clone of.) So how would I set up my first "organic grow", what soil do I start with, how do I incorporate those nutes into the soil.

Build your own soil mix.

My mix is

Equal parts of peat moss, pumice, vermicompost (castings compost)

per cubic foot

1/2 cup crab shell meal
1/2 cup kelp meal
1/2 cup fish bone meal
1/4 cup ahimsa neem cake
1 cup oyster shell flour
3-4 cups basalt rock dust

Mix everything together. Lightly water down. Cook soil for 6 weeks - Store in a tote or trash can . Turn the soil once a week.

Cooking means to compost or break down of organic material and activate microbes. You need everything to be broken down so it's readily available to the plant. If it's not broken down the soil will be too hot and deficiencies will occur early on.

Seed sprout teas. You sprout seeds ( I use corn seed) Then puree with water and strain and add to the water you are going to use to water plants. It 1/4 cup or 2 oz of seeds for a 5 gal tea. Do not let the tea aerate for more than 4 hours or it will become acidic and an herbicide.

I recently started adding malted seed to my soil mix instead of doing seed sprout teas. I do sub irrigated planters now. So I can't top feed. The SST will go bad in a resi.

 

[Yodaweed]

Build your own soil mix.

My mix is

Equal parts of peat moss, pumice, vermicompost (castings compost)

per cubic foot

1/2 cup crab shell meal
1/2 cup kelp meal
1/2 cup fish bone meal
1/4 cup ahimsa neem cake
1 cup oyster shell flour
3-4 cups basalt rock dust

Mix everything together. Lightly water down. Cook soil for 6 weeks - Store in a tote or trash can . Turn the soil once a week.

Cooking means to compost or break down of organic material and activate microbes. You need everything to be broken down so it's readily available to the plant. If it's not broken down the soil will be too hot and deficiencies will occur early on.

Seed sprout teas. You sprout seeds ( I use corn seed) Then puree with water and strain and add to the water you are going to use to water plants. It 1/4 cup or 2 oz of seeds for a 5 gal tea. Do not let the tea aerate for more than 4 hours or it will become acidic and an herbicide.

I recently started adding malted seed to my soil mix instead of doing seed sprout teas. I do sub irrigated planters now. So I can't top feed. The SST will go bad in a resi.

That's a great mix very similar to what I use, what do you use for your phosphorus? I been using rock phosphate in addition to the kelp meal but I hear it isn't the greatest to use, same as langbeinte, been trying to stear clear of that as well.

 

[Akghostbuds420]

So the vermicompost is just the composted soil that the worms broke down in the worm bin?
What brand pumice and peat do you suggest?

 

[hyroot]

That's a great mix very similar to what I use, what do you use for your phosphorus? I been using rock phosphate in addition to the kelp meal but I hear it isn't the greatest to use, same as langbeinte, been trying to stear clear of that as well.

Fish bone meal, crab meal, neem cake rock dusts and my castings all have phos

 

[hyroot]

So the vermicompost is just the composted soil that the worms broke down in the worm bin?
What brand pumice and peat do you suggest?

Pumice. Get what ever you can find. Not many places carry it. It will be pretty much the same thing every where. It's for aeration instead perlite. Pumice doesn't break down into fine particles like perlite does and pumice doesn't float up in the soil like perlite does.

Vermicompost is the castings and the organic material that composts on its own in the same worm bin. So vermicompost is a mix of castings and compost.

Peat I get the premiere brand at lowes. It is quality peat moss. . It has nothing to do with miracle grow or scotts or kellogs.

Make.sure wet down the peat and let it soak up the water and water again.

The bales will be dry and compacted. Peat is hydrophobic when it's dry. Meaning it repells water. So it takes a while for the peat to soak up moisture.

 

[Akghostbuds420]

Vermicompost is the castings and the organic material that composts on its own in the same worm bin. So vermicompost is a mix of castings and compost.

So when I have my bin I put in EWC and other organics and wait till its all soil?

Thanks for all the advice, its a big help. Much appreciated.

 

[Akghostbuds420]

Nvm just had to read it again.

 

[Akghostbuds420]

So once the soil has cooked and is ready to use, rooted clones can go directly in a potfull?
When it comes time to flower do I need to fertilize then too with high phosphorus nutes?

 

[greasemonkeymann]

Hello fellow members I was wondering what are the best organic fertilizers for the flowering stage to bring out the full flavor profile of my cannabis. I am currently growing several strains in promix inside a greenhouse, anyone know of organic soil ferts for flavors.

biggest thing is sulfur containing nutrients.
neem seed meal is GREAT, also manures have good amounts of sulfur.
neem seed meal is one of the BEST things to add to a soil mix, for so many reasons

 

[greasemonkeymann]

So once the soil has cooked and is ready to use, rooted clones can go directly in a potfull?
When it comes time to flower do I need to fertilize then too with high phosphorus nutes?

NO..
you don't EVER need high phosphurus nutrients, that's hydro chem logic my friend
using high amount of phosphorus in organics isn't wise.. causes more problems than helps

 

[greasemonkeymann]

That's a great mix very similar to what I use, what do you use for your phosphorus? I been using rock phosphate in addition to the kelp meal but I hear it isn't the greatest to use, same as langbeinte, been trying to stear clear of that as well.

whats wrong with langbeinite?
good shit...