Have any of you DIY COB Growers finished a crop under 1000W DE HPS? - POLL

[OneHitDone]

Any word on what the first cob fixture to undergo sphere testing will be?

 

[ttystikk]

I think raising the "might have to heat the warehouse" argument is lunacy, misrepresented as a defect when it is actually a benefit.

One would only gain more control over the environment; As one's lighting becomes more efficient there is less of a difference to compensate for via HVAC.

Paper bags, think your way out of them.

@Rahz I am agreeing with you, I think. I'm not sure I understand your post completely, but I think we're on the same page.

I understand him completely, and believe me when I tell you we're all reading the same hymn.

 

[Sativied]

So cool, you have nothing to do but nit pick. You pick one pic of a half filled led side with the full hps, with plants looking the same under both as far as signs of cold or def, but only want to talk about the led. I said he had more to fill the room and make it even.
I'm so glad to see you grasping at straws when a real and valid example is put up. It's really funny to see you squirm for nothing.

All your wishful thinking is untrue, all unproven, has no logical foundation and as usual is very easy to refute:

You said yourself: "the led side always shows more color even in non-colored strains."
See my previous posts on clues how to fix the problem. You're welcome.

Have I ever told you what to use, or what you do is wrong.

N/A but otherwise I would appreciate it. There is always room for improvement and my comments were not intended to offend you so you don't take it personal, it's about led vs hps, not greengenes vs hps.

Have you ever seen me say hps is shit, or sucks, or is horrible...? you never will, and I tip my hat to all well done grows, big or small. But you can not do that.

Nothing in your post or silly questions makes that last part any less false. You just made that up. What's your motive for such delusions? I don't have one, not for nitpicking or whatever wishfulthinking you have. I'm not pro hps and anti led... At least my "opinions" are about grow light, yours are about people opposing your opinions... nothing but ad hominem as usual.

 

[Sativied]

It seems you already know everything, congratulations, you lovely fellow.

You have me confused with the Highlander, you pleasant sir.

 

[cdgmoney250]

Can you talk a little about veg times and training you did? Because this may reflect more on the gardener then the lights, something we never talk about in these threads. Do you have any pics of the head band?

Of course.
The plants were in veg for 8 weeks, but this was by accident. Building a 50 COB fixture is no simple task, and took longer than estimated.

Training consisted of topping the plants as frequently as possible because they were getting too big and the light wasn't ready. The plants were way too tall going into flower and we basically bent them down underneath the first trellis net @ 40". A good portion of the plants stayed below the canopy and never got any light. The rest stretched up and yielded what it did.

I feel as if plants that are trained "out" can yield as much or better with a 5-6 week Veg, which is what normally happens. Just better positioning in the trellis when we first put them into the flower room.

This is the 707 Headband. Don't mind the thrip damage and male preflowers...
Not running this strain again.

 

[captainmorgan]

Lets cut the bullshit,what do the HPS guys condsider a good yield per sq/ft?

 

[captainmorgan]

The silence is defining.

 

[BOBBY_G]

I think raising the "might have to heat the warehouse" argument is lunacy, misrepresented as a defect when it is actually a benefit.

its right up there with "gosh darnit! all this extra yield is gonna drive our tax liability through the roof!"

 

[ttystikk]

The silence is defining.

I felt I was doing well to get two a light under hps.

 

[a mongo frog]

Lets cut the bullshit,what do the HPS guys condsider a good yield per sq/ft?

Well for me personally it would be 2 units per a 1000 watt in a 4x4 area, being that I dropped out of school in the 8th grade I'm not that good at math. Someone please help me........... Would i be right if my answer is 1/2 unit?

 

[BOBBY_G]

Lets cut the bullshit,what do the HPS guys condsider a good yield per sq/ft?

i think those guys are thrilled to get 3 units which is about 1.2-1.25 per watt at the wall. probably more realistically ~1.1 if you consider the addl cooling load needed to remove the extra heat.

 

[BOBBY_G]

and thats anecdotal from one person whos setup ive never seen who does massively long veg times

 

[captainmorgan]

If the yield per sq/ft is the end all be all lets hear some numbers HPS people. 2.2 ozs per sq/ft at 30 watts per sq/ft/,guess that's chump change to the numbers your getting?

 

[cdgmoney250]

Well for me personally it would be 2 units per a 1000 watt in a 4x4 area, being that I dropped out of school in the 8th grade I'm not that good at math. Someone please help me........... Would i be right if my answer is 1/2 unit?

2 units = 32oz

4' x 4' = 16 ft sq

32oz \ 16 ft sq = 2oz per sq ft or 57 grams per sq ft

 

[a mongo frog]

2 units = 32oz

4' x 4' = 16 ft sq

32oz \ 16 ft sq = 2oz per sq ft or 57 grams per sq ft

Thanks. Yea thats what id be super happy with. Fucking thrilled actually if the quality held up.

 

[BOBBY_G]

2 units = 32oz

4' x 4' = 16 ft sq

32oz \ 16 ft sq = 2oz per sq ft or 57 grams per sq ft

note youre using well over twice the wattage per square foot of captain and getting less yield

 

[cdgmoney250]

note youre using well over twice the wattage per square foot of captain and getting less yield

Who is?

 

[captainmorgan]

Well for me personally it would be 2 units per a 1000 watt in a 4x4 area, being that I dropped out of school in the 8th grade I'm not that good at math. Someone please help me........... Would i be right if my answer is 1/2 unit?

That would be 2 ozs a sq/t at 62 watts per sq/ft and that doesn't include the ballast.

 

[captainmorgan]

Lets hear some sq/ft yields DE people.

 

[a mongo frog]

That would be 2 ozs a sq/t at 62 watts per sq/ft and that doesn't include the ballast.

And id be thrilled with that. Im not about all this ill beat your yield led vs hps bull shit. But now if we are talking quality of bud, I'm all about that. Right now I'm getting a little above 1 3/4 unit per 1000 in a 4x4 on a 24 day veg with co2. If i could hit 2 units id jump out of my socks.