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Mellogreenman

Mellogreenman

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budsahoi said:
Yes

Get a small temp controlled fan heater, good to keep humidity down.

I noticed the sideways pots and it works, hard to water tho.

Your welcome.
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budsahoi said:
Yes

Get a small temp controlled fan heater, good to keep humidity down.

I noticed the sideways pots and it works, hard to water tho.

Your welcome.
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Lol, I put them upwards when I water them, allow them to drain and put them back into the closet flat again, Yes the ambient temp here where I am is rising up again, the room is back to the high 50s nearly 60 f now, it was such a cold winter here but hopefully it will get even warmer soon, I do have a 250 w HPS and 250w MH bulbs and a 250 w ballast but I don't have a cool tube or a proper extractor fan to make it all work properly + I don't think that I have the right height to make it work properly, the closet is only around 4 foot in height, I do want to get it set up properly tho but I most likely will need a closet with more height space. I'd be very noobish with HPS setups, but at least I have my growing style with cfl pretty much ok, I never get any deficiencies, nor over water, never suffer from ph lock out, never over feed with too much nutes, so at least I have the basics down it's just stepping up a gear and getting HPS going now. I'm deffo going to give it a shot this year.
 
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budsahoi

budsahoi

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I ran CFLs for a few years and they are fine for small personnel use. HPS is a different story.
Your doing very well and looks good for auto, I know some people struggle with them and have low yields.
 
Roobarb

Roobarb

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@Mellogreenman
Looks like you're still having a few deficiencies. I could try and help If you post a few more details.
What soil are you using?
How much/often are you watering!
When did you switch nutes?
What's your water like?
You say you have low temps.
Are you in a shed or attic?
 
Mellogreenman

Mellogreenman

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budsahoi said:
I ran CFLs for a few years and they are fine for small personnel use. HPS is a different story.
Your doing very well and looks good for auto, I know some people struggle with them and have low yields.
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Cheers mate, I will have a low yield from these 2 because they are in small pots but the new one that I have planted now is in an 8 ltr pot so it should hopefully grow much bigger. Getting a rotation going from now on say I'll start another one every 5 weeks from now on then hopefully I will always have something there to smoke.
 
Mellogreenman

Mellogreenman

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Roobarb said:
@Mellogreenman
Looks like you're still having a few deficiencies. I could try and help If you post a few more details.
What soil are you using?
How much/often are you watering!
When did you switch nutes?
What's your water like?
You say you have low temps.
Are you in a shed or attic?
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What soil are you using? Biobizz lite mix

How much/often are you watering! Prob not enough, I let soil dry out before I add more sometimes the pot could be really light for a few days before I re-water/nute again

When did you switch nutes? started nutes at nearly 3 weeks old, 1/4 dose. then the next feed would be water, then nutes same dose 1/4 again, then next water with some root juice with the trace elements.
then water, then around week 5 I switch to bloom nutes at half dose, then water, then same dose of bloom nutes again, then I just usually use water from week 7 onwards to finish up and flush. (that schedule seems to work for me,. If you think that I should be doing it different please give me a decent schedule and I'll change it).

What's your water like? Water from kitchen sink left for 2 days to get rid of anything that might be in it, I ph it down to 6/4 -6/6.

You say you have low temps. I only have low temps when the lights are off, it goes down too around 54 f but I lights are only off for 4 hours, when lights are on it's about 76 f - 78 f. to the best of my knowledge that's about right for lights on, I realize that 54f is way to low with the lights off, it should by right be over 60f or just in the high 50s for it to be correct.

Are you in a shed or attic. A room

100 mm Pc fan +120 mm for outtake + passive intake (grow area has decent air circulation because I have strings tied up hanging down around the plants, when I look in through the passive intake holes I can see the strings blowing around the plants so it's deffo getting decent circulation.

Oscillating fan: no (haven't needed an oscillating fan for 3 grows (waste of electricity if you ask me).D on't need one not for cfl grows ) (Maybe for hps I'll use one but for now NO.

Well that about it really , if you can shed some light on helping me to have a better garden then please go for it.

Cheers.
 
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Roobarb

Roobarb

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You are right to start nutes off on low dose but maybe bump it up a little each time. Are you using any calmag? I let the pots dry to a point where the top 1-2cm is dry. Leaving it very dry for days is not good. In my opinion flushing is a myth. I just taper off nutes and water only for last few. Keeps a happier, more productive plant.
Good luck
 
Mellogreenman

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Roobarb said:
You are right to start nutes off on low dose but maybe bump it up a little each time. Are you using any calmag? I let the pots dry to a point where the top 1-2cm is dry. Leaving it very dry for days is not good. In my opinion flushing is a myth. I just taper off nutes and water only for last few. Keeps a happier, more productive plant.
Good luck
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I couldn't get any calmag. I don't even like Biobizz soil, the only reason why I bought it was because there is perlite in it, the day that I went to buy perlite they had none so I had to get it, I use soil from a garden center and add my own perlite but on it's own there is no drainage so adding perlite is essential. I was thinking of changing my feeding pattern with my next grow and this is what I was thinking of following.

Week 1, just cap fulls of 6.4 water.
week 2, the same but adding a little root juice with trace elements.
week 3, start on veg nutes at 1/4 dose.
week 4, plain water
week 5, half dose veg nutes
week 6, more root juice
week 7, 3/4 veg nutes
week 8, water
week 9, 1/4 veg nutes + 1/2 bloom nutes
week 10, water
week 11, full dose bloom nutes
week 12, water onwards till finish

How does that sound?
 
Roobarb

Roobarb

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budsahoi said:
HAPPY green day.
Bio Bizz is fantastic soil.
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@Mellogreenman
I've used Biobizz many times with no problems. I think it's worth paying an extra few bob for more canna specific soils rather than the shite in Woodies. Your sched sounds better although I'm not particularly fond of autos and have only ran a handful. Never used root juice either.
You said cold on lights off is why you've gone with autos. I use a 200w greenhouse heater and a good thermostat. Both cost less than €50
 
Mellogreenman

Mellogreenman

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Roobarb said:
@Mellogreenman
I've used Biobizz many times with no problems. I think it's worth paying an extra few bob for more canna specific soils rather than the shite in Woodies. Your sched sounds better although I'm not particularly fond of autos and have only ran a handful. Never used root juice either.
You said cold on lights off is why you've gone with autos. I use a 200w greenhouse heater and a good thermostat. Both cost less than €50
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I want to try regular seeds next grow, I have one auto left it's a week old on Monday, I'ts doing very well. I'm going to up the lights from one 250w cfl and add in my other daylight 250w cfl so it should be interesting then. then in the meantime I want to find a bigger wardrobe so as I can get my 250w MH and HPS setup, I'll need to get a cooltube and a decent extractor to make it all work properly. The room is much warmer now, it's at 60 deg f now so that should be fine. The thing that I don't like about Biobizz is that the water tends to stay on top of the soil when I water it and I don't pack the soil either the pot is always loosely filled and I also find that the goodness leaves quickly if I don't add nutes earlier, the garden soil that I usually use seems to keep good longer I could go 4 weeks without putting any nutes in where as with biobizz it deffo needs a feed on week 3 or there about's.

What would be good regular seeds to try? I was also thinking about producing seeds so as I wont need to buy them, then using the seeds for growing to smoke from there on in.
 
ghostdogalpha

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tontoboy said:
@ghostdogalpha

hows the ups going? had loads of power cuts this winter.
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Sorry. Not on line as much.

Worked out ok. Hasnt really been tested yet. If the power cut is planned I just drop to a 250w to keep light cycle ok.
budsahoi said:
Ah yes making your own is good.
Lots of fiber they like, moss peat would be better than compost but need to add lime.
Bord na mona compost etc is wrong though
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Good tip. I just like composting is all.
 
ghostdogalpha

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Mellogreenman said:
Cheers mate, I will have a low yield from these 2 because they are in small pots but the new one that I have planted now is in an 8 ltr pot so it should hopefully grow much bigger. Getting a rotation going from now on say I'll start another one every 5 weeks from now on then hopefully I will always have something there to smoke.
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I have grown a few auto's and I think pot size is important without going nuts. When the grow is done and soil is dry, check out how the roots grew. In mine I found the root bulb could grow off at a mad angle at the start so having a slighlty bigger pot helps. Also I grew my autos in the pot I planned on finishing on. No repotting, as I heard auto's dont like this but I will leave that to others with more experience.
 
ghostdogalpha

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Mellogreenman said:
I want to try regular seeds next grow, I have one auto left it's a week old on Monday, I'ts doing very well. I'm going to up the lights from one 250w cfl and add in my other daylight 250w cfl so it should be interesting then. then in the meantime I want to find a bigger wardrobe so as I can get my 250w MH and HPS setup, I'll need to get a cooltube and a decent extractor to make it all work properly. The room is much warmer now, it's at 60 deg f now so that should be fine. The thing that I don't like about Biobizz is that the water tends to stay on top of the soil when I water it and I don't pack the soil either the pot is always loosely filled and I also find that the goodness leaves quickly if I don't add nutes earlier, the garden soil that I usually use seems to keep good longer I could go 4 weeks without putting any nutes in where as with biobizz it deffo needs a feed on week 3 or there about's.

What would be good regular seeds to try? I was also thinking about producing seeds so as I wont need to buy them, then using the seeds for growing to smoke from there on in.
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Similar experience. Garden/homemade soil is allways heavier and holds water differently. The only problem is in the switch to 12/12. Plants in veg in soil can look great and healthy but then at about week 2 in flower some show odd nute def. If you dont catch it early it can get complicated. I have allways thiught it is to do with the trace elements/nutes that plants need in flower. In Veg its allmost all nitrogen, which is easy in a decent soil mix. I will be starting the bio bloom nute feed this time as soon as I switch this time to see if it make a difference.
 
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