Are there any smart Trump supporters?

NLXSK1

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Is Chris Christie not smart? Is Ben Carson not smart?

You dont care anyway, this is just another ignorant troll.
 

MuyLocoNC

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$17 billion just in materials, not including labor. It would cost around $50 billion total

If $50 billion is nothing, tell me where Trump would get it. Tell me what programs or departments he would end and how much they would each cost to add up to $50 billion

You won't do it because you can't, which is why Trump himself hasn't released a detailed plan on how to finance his wall. He's promising you pie in the sky and you're eating it up because you agree with his racially charged policies. Like when Sanders proposed universal college, he released a detailed plan on how to pay for it down to the penny that anyone could go add up for themselves and see if the math worked. Apparently you guys think Trump is Santa Clause and can just magically provide all the things he's saying he can. That might be good for you, but you don't get to call yourself informed.
You have got to be kidding, yeah? Your supreme leader conjured up $787+ billion out of thin air to piss away into the wind and you can't conceive of a paltry $50 billion? We've added almost $10 trillion in new debt during this administration and you're pissing in the wind over $50 billion that actually creates something tangible? Nice try.

Not even the most vapid liberal lemmings in here believe that crock of shit naïveté you're trying to pass off. Your progressive heroes up on the hill would drop $50 billion in a hot second for any one of a dozen useless pet projects if given the chance and you'd applaud like a barking seal at their generosity with other citizen's money.
 
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MuyLocoNC

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Are there any smart trump supporters?
@Padawanbater2

By these imbecile wingnut responses, from @OddBall1st and @MuyLocoNC both of whom are DAF, the answet for now is no.
You're so stupid...

...they had to burn down the school to get you out of third grade.
…you stared at the orange juice carton because it said “concentrate”!
…you jumped off a cliff to see if the wings on your maxi pads would make you fly!
 

Padawanbater2

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You have got to be kidding, yeah? Your supreme leader conjured up $787+ billion out of thin air to piss away into the wind and you can't conceive of a paltry $50 billion? We've added almost $10 trillion in new debt during this administration and you're pissing in the wind over $50 billion that actually creates something tangible? Nice try.

Not even the most vapid liberal lemmings in here believe that crock of shit naïveté you're trying to pass off. Your progressive heroes up on the hill would drop $50 billion in a hot second for any one of a dozen useless pet projects if given the chance and you'd applaud like a barking seal at their generosity with other citizen's money.
"Obama bailed out the banks to prevent the collapse of the global economy predicated by the economic policies I support, so I don't care what Trump adds to the national debt"

You have a really warped view of the way politics works in America, especially for someone well into adulthood. You act like anything that doesn't go your way is a personal attack against you and the things you believe, so when something gets passed, regardless of the democratic process or how many people support it, you are still right and everybody else is wrong. It's a childlike mentality that republicans and conservative talk radio hosts have been instilling in people like you for years. I noticed you act the same way about campaign finance reform. You think the democrats spent decades fucking you, so now that republicans added the loophole that allows corporations to buy politicians with legal bribes and effectively subvert democracy, you support it because you think it hurts progressives when in reality, it's the reason Clinton will win this November and Trump will lose... hurting you.. it's interesting how that works, huh?
 

Blunted 4 lyfe

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I was just thinking about this.. I haven't seen a single Trump supporter who can tell you what Donald Trump supports. They can recite his vague, ambiguous platitudes (He gonna make 'Murica great agin!), but they can't tell you specifics - how much something will cost, what percentage of the American people might support it, if anything has a chance of becoming actual policy, etc.

So does this person exist? Someone who can have a rational conversation about Trump's policies and why they support them without reverting into a neandertaal? Point them to this thread
You're not going to find "smart Trump supporters" that's an oxymoron, they can't give you policies because Trump doesn't have any, other than that stupid wall, he just has slogans.

B4L
 

Blunted 4 lyfe

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Hillary won't let Bernie win.
I'm not knocking Bernie. But I'll say it again, Hillary won't let Bernie win. So its Trump v Clinton and Trump wins. So get ready to say President Trump

I'm sure President Trump will do just fine.
He's not Hitler.
He's not racist.

The man has been in business, real business, for decades in New York City. If there were issues of racism we would have heard it by now. We're talking NYC. Go try to be a racist in NYC and see how long you last. You won't go far. You might be popular in your small group of skinheads in mama's basement but you won't build towers in NYC.

It's actually because of the Bernie protesters that I've learned more about Donald. It's because of my own inquiry, not others, that I've learned some things about our next President.

In fact... when you look, honestly look... you'll see that Donald Trump is a very generous man. People with money can often times do great things with their money. Many times it's done quietly without bragging. Heck I even saw a video of Trump giving money to a girl with bone disease on the Maury Show dating back to 2000. He was just regular old Donald back in 2000. They gave the girl a lot of money but did not disclose the actual dollar amount out loud. It was a nice gesture, enough to make them cry, yet there was no bragging by Trump, no chest thumping about HOW MUCH he gave. We all know it was a lot of money. Keep digging around about how generous he is and you'll find tons of examples. Trump used to go into kitchens of restaurants and give everyone a hundred dollar bill and leave quietly. He paid off the mortgage of a couple that stopped to help his broken down limo. That's not Hitler. That's a New York tycoon level 100, like a boss, absolutely like a boss. He's the Hugh Heffner of sky scrapers and business. You gonna tell me every "bunny" was perfect? No... some of them had to go, but Hugh got through it. Donald is the same type of tycoon, different set of actors. Instead of bunnies he had ventures.

Now as far as the OP's request of what our Tycoon Preezy is going to do (or wants to do)... there are many ways to find that information out, let's say try looking at a candidates website?
You could go to Trump's page and see what he wants to do and then put up some of those items and discuss them individually.

Trump wants to build a wall - a wall to keep people out is much different than a wall to keep people IN. We need to protect our borders and the southern border wall project is no different than the Great Wall in China. It kept invaders out, not citizens in. How does a wall affect LEGAL immigration? Last I heard legal immigrants would be allowed through the wall.

Trump wants to put a 35% tax on items made in China - this levels the playing field for America as jobs in China are brought back to America.

Trump's tax reform is pretty attractive, too.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform


Did the OP go to Trumps website?... because I just did and I'm learning more about him thanks to the OP.
Are you kidding me you know jack about the dumpster. The man is a racist pos, I lived full time in Brooklyn, N.Y. He and his father (Fred) were one of the biggest slumlords at the time, he had to be dragged into court and sued because he wouldn't allow minorities to rent in his buildings and was forced to settle and still was dragged into court later on for more of the same shit, his father was a klansman.

Being a bigot is a family trait!!

B4L
 
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Blunted 4 lyfe

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I'm not Trump so I can't answer for him.

My personal view is that the wall is a bit ambitious but like I said.... if it were put out to the open market for designs it create a design race of sorts and would be interesting to see how it pans out.

Universal College is a joke. Grow up. College is only supposed to last a few years of your life. You should not have to pay for college your entire life, but that what taxing us all for it does. I'm not paying for your school. I know people with masters' degrees that can't motivate themselves to get work. Many of you don't need college. It's a waste of time to talk about it.

Rebuilding American Infrastructure is a tired cliche'. Colorado is booming because of the pot taxes. Legalize it and there's your answer to increasing your local general fund.
Well shit the dumpster is suppose to be a hotshot developer and started out with a price tag of 4 billion, now the price tag is 16 billion and counting some hotshot developer he is.

B4L
 

bluntmassa1

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As stated, the funds have already been allocated and I couldn't care less who actually builds it. Maybe the captured illegals should build it, then be taken to the top, kneecapped and pushed over.
How is a wall going to stop illegals?? Them Asians and a lot of Latinos plus every other nationality not on the continents of the America's come over on boats and airplanes nobody fly's to Mexico just to cross the border.

Not to mention a Mexican will only need to produce a passport to stay in America for a month and he just needs to find 1 lonely bbw to get a green card.:bigjoint:

Fuck Trump his wall is failure and it hasn't even happened yet!
 

LordRalh3

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None of these candidates should be president.. Plain and simple you're all rediculous degenerating into parties and name calling.

Why the hell can't we just do what's good for everyone. Why does everybody have to pick every damn extreme and interfere with everyone else's lives.

Stop being offended by everything. All fucking lives matter. Human is the race not white black purple or whatever. Science is a good investment. Use it.

The government needs to be there but people need to take care of their damn selves.

Get rid of lifetime politicians and pensions, no more running for "parties" just on what your own god damn opinions are

/end rant and apologies for misspellings or strange words out of place stoned as shit after 60 hours of nights shifts and using new keyboard on phone with new autocorrect shiznit

Let's all fucking work together even if we hate each other
 

OddBall1st

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"Thankfully, engineer Ali F. Rhuzkan already provided material estimates for the wall. I simply took his material estimates, found national average costs, and totaled them up. Let’s break it down step by step. The previous calculations stated that the wall will be built using pre-cast (place and set at indoor facility and transport harden concrete panels to job site) and cast-in-place (wet concrete placed at site) concrete. We will also need to include the steel rebar in the material costs.

Going off of materials estimate we have…
167,272,000 cubic yards of cast-in-place concrete at $93/cubic yard = $15,556,296,000
1,030,000 segments of 10’ pre-cast panels at $17/panel = $17,510,000
2,500,000 tons of steel rebar at $600/ton = $1,500,000,000

Total Material Cost Estimate: $17,073,806,000

$17 Billion!! To give you a mild idea of how much that is, $17 billion is roughly NASA's yearly operating budget. And let’s take a reality check for a moment: this is only a rough materials costs for the project. I haven’t yet taken into account the cost of labor or machinery, not to mention the millions of dollars it would cost for design work, surveying, and land acquisition. If I had an RSmeans book (construction estimating tool) handy I would be able to do a more in depths cost estimate of this Wall."

http://imgur.com/gallery/KVdSb

Total foreign aid to Mexico in 2013 = $560 million

That's about $16.4 billion short (not including labor costs)


So to answer the question; no, obviously not, there are no smart Trump supporters
Who`s previous calculations ? Who do you think will decide what this wall would consist of ?

Not a good argument, especially when Mexico will be footing the labor and materials.

I could go get estimates and they would be much different than those. You can`t do that until things have been decided but you gave it the ole Democrat try,.....

......I don`t blame you for trying to dramatize it.
 

OddBall1st

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How is a wall going to stop illegals?? Them Asians and a lot of Latinos plus every other nationality not on the continents of the America's come over on boats and airplanes nobody fly's to Mexico just to cross the border.

Not to mention a Mexican will only need to produce a passport to stay in America for a month and he just needs to find 1 lonely bbw to get a green card.:bigjoint:

Fuck Trump his wall is failure and it hasn't even happened yet!

Yes they do, they sail there too. Some as far as Sa Palo, or Taiwan,...and even Turkey.
 

bluntmassa1

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Yes they do, they sail there too. Some as far as Sa Palo, or Taiwan,...and even Turkey.
They sail where Mexico? You got some actual proof of a large number? Or just a few dumb dumbs who don't know shit about Cubans? I even seen a little raft on the beach in Florida more than likely Cubans coming back to the mainland. We are actually the kind animal that walks from one land to the next that's how we conquered the earth thousands of years ago kind of how we ended up with different races just thousands of years of evolution so their should be no walls. Nobody should be illegal to stay in America.

But bitch about nothing meanwhile I know of plenty illegals none Mexican none even crossed in Mexico but I ain't turning anyone in they ain't hurting me.
 
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