Make $2200 worth of "Clear Rez" for $4 !!!

Youngtree777

Youngtree777

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This is a GREAT thread... I read somethin like this in a different forum went on foreeeevvver about enzymes and different pondzymes!

From what I learned.. Pondzymes of all different brands are a fantastic alternative to hefty priced hydroponic enzymes such as cannazyme and hygrozyme.. seeing that they have the same ingredients only 66times more concentrated woweeee!

That said.. and pardon my pushing of certain brand name products (thats not forbidden on this forum if I'm correct ? lol)

Instead of the 25 bucks you normally pay for whatever zyme for what a 500ml bottle I think? Treats what is it 80 gallons??

Check out Bio Cozyme... its not AS concentrated as say pondzymes BUT its still many many many times more concentrated than other leading brands. I used 2.5 ml in my two gallon watering can and that's the double strength recommendation :)

I actually popped in on this thread to talk about how my aero cloner is killing cuttings at a murderous rate! Seems like more people than less here are stating that to get hundred percent success cloning you should use tap water! OK OK lets all keep our pantalonies on..

I'm sayin I like zymes for coir, so far bio cozyme been marvelous to me!!! Plants seem to love it and its supposed to help with N uptake.

Back to tap water, Tap is high in Cal/Mg according to all these city water analysis and world health zombie a-holes ... you know WHO..

My theory is that RO water is pulling nutes out of the cuttings even if you add a balanced ration of say Cal/Mg or a nute solution or what have you... That and the Chlorine!!

I'm sorry but it all makes sense now! My mother (passed her green thumb on to me ) has some kind of popular vine plant with a girls name... anyway, she always has cuttings of it in flower vases.. if that's even proper eengrish?

I was sayin to myself the other day "self... why is it that your mowder can root so successfully when she just dunks them cuttings in a tap water filled clear container??!!"

I responded to myself by sayin....Self.. its probably just the type of plant :) well now I think me knows a lil some some PRESHHHHUSSS and I didn't know a few hours ago!

Much love and thanks for the herbifical epiphany!
 
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mainliner

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i use pool&spa chlorine granules.

£15 for a 5lt tub
and its about 10 granules( yes 10 granules ) for 1ppm in a litre of water



the price it costs is too low for my calulator lol

i top up every 5 days :)
 
SmerkedOut

SmerkedOut

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Sorry to bump an old thread, I just want to make sure I do this right. So I would weigh out 24 grams of the powder and pour it in 1 gallon of RO water, then add 1ml/gallon of that solution to my res?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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churchhaze said:
I guess it always sounds like bragging (and people hate that without pics), but I've never had to use a bleach, pool shock, H2O2, bennies, ever in the 10 or so years I've been taking DWC seriously. I've had root issues, but it's always been solved by fixing the nutrients or some other condition.

What gives? Why is everyone having problems with brown roots these days? I've also never heard of chilling water until about a year ago (from reading you guys). Are you guys feeding with organics or something?

Assuming you don't feed with organics, I feel like it's unhealthy roots that leads to rot, not the other way around. Roots store a ton of starch (think potatoes). Certain types of deficiencies will cause too much starch to buildup and the roots will appear "slimy". That's the bait. You can actually get this starchy slime off by jiggling the roots, then changing the water, but that doesn't fix the underlying problem.
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What fixed this problem for me- permanently- was chilling my RDWC water to the upper sixties or colder. I think this allows aerobic bacteria to outcompete the anaerobic ones. Since the anaerobic bacteria generally eat dead stuff, they create conditions which lead to more dead stuff, like lack of circulation (snot) and wild pH swings.

I've deliberately introduced water I knew to be loaded with bad bacteria into my system and it never affected the plants at all.

I'm going to try the pool chems thing on my aerocloner. I never could get it to work in the past due to bacteria problems, but this inspired me to give it another go.
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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Trying to clone with well water I found that using pool shock @ 0.035g/L (calcium hypochlorite - exact same little bag pictured in the OP) was massively helpful in getting roots quick and healthy. At that concentration it's pretty high levels, you can take the solution you make and dilute it further into water quite significantly. The .035g/L basically creates the same product you see on some hydro shelves. It's ridiculously stupid how overpriced ALMOST everything that ever touches a hydroponic store is.

Chlorine is what makes the difference for cloning based on my experience with my well water. It means the roots aren't competing with bacteria in your medium is what I suspect. Given that clones and roots like the same temps as anaerobic bacteria this is what I figure. I use rockwool and domes though, not an aero cloner.
 
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sanjuan

sanjuan

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Yesterday, I made up my first batch of calcium hypochlorite solution for use in reservoirs that feed Tropf Blumat drippers. Using one gram of 47.6% HTC brand and 80ml distilled water gives me twice the concentration of the 24g per gallon recipe.

My problem is, the calcium hypochlorite does not dissolve completely in the 115ml brown glass vanilla bottle I use for dispensing. Stuff still settles out after vigorous shaking--have I reached the limit of solubility?
 
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DarthBlazeAnthony

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dlively11 said:
That is correct. Same EXACT ingredient as EZ Clone Clear Rez that sells for $20 a QT.

Get your self a 1 lb bag of HTH Pool shock non PH buffered available online and most hardware stores (bought mine from Ace). Mix 1 GRAM (450 in the bag) per gallon of solution. Will make the SAME EXACT concentration fo the SAME EXACT product. $4 will make you 450 gallons of the stuff and will treat over 286,000 gallons of water !!:clap: Should last you a little while ... Can you say markup ?? :shock:

Been using this on all my clone machines and all my ebb and flow reservoirs now with great success. You use 1 OZ per 5 gallons. I actually make it a lot stronger at 24 grams per gallon then only have to use a teaspoon per 5 gallons. Works very well in both systems. Works better then H202. You need to reapply every 3 days to keep bacteria at bay. You can actually use much stronger doses if you like. City water is 1-5 PPM of chorine when you add this it only raises the PPM level of chlorine less then 1/2 a PPM. Very safe and very effective. Found my PH levels to be much more stable in my larger reservoirs compared to using 2 doses of 30% H202 per week. Its doing a better job of killing the nasties :-o

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Thanks for the pro tip...on ebay it is $21 for 5lbs so I should be set until the year 2015,000.
 
TheChemist77

TheChemist77

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glad i seen this thread...anyways question,,, if i use this to add to my rez, will it interfear with my nutrients?? or is it just for clones and flushing?? i understand its prrpose is to keap your rez steril but does it work with my nutrients.. so i use it all the time?? also use a 36 site kingcloner, works great, i use clonex liquid in the water, should i use both together or just the hth?? in my 25 gallon rez i use gh maxi series nutrients... so i just add this to my rez after its already mixed with nutrients?? just bought a bag from amazon hth shock n swim says active ingredient is hypochlorite 40-55%,, so i mix 24 grams with 1 gallon of water, then add 1 tea spoon of that to every 5 gallons of rez water wright??
 
sanjuan

sanjuan

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I've only used pool shock for a week but I've been using bleach in my Blumat drip system for more than a year, fighting oxygen loving white mold. I run ten and twenty gallon reservoirs with MaxiGro or MaxiBloom and Drip Clean. The chlorine is added last, after the pH has been checked with drops (I finally gave up on pH meters). No interference that I can tell.

I haven't tried a hot water bath but I'm still not getting good solubility of one gram 47.6% HTH in 80ml distilled water. It goes into fine suspension which is something of an advantage over bleach, a slower release of chlorine in the reservoir.

The last couple of days I've been running Dutch Masters Zone (copper sulfate and potassium nitrate) at 2ml per gallon, one time application. I need to add bleach almost every day (two out of three days) or else the mold takes hold, clouding the res and potentially clogging the fine Tropf Blumat drip lines with snot. The pool shock seemed like it could be added every other day.

I've been monitoring total chlorine with Hanna colorimeters and Hach reagents (more convenient and cheaper than the Hanna DPD reagent). If total Cl goes much below 2 ppm I start to get mold. If I go much over 4 ppm the chlorine causes leaf distortion in seedlings and young plants.

Right now I'm using Zone in combination with bleach (too tired to mix more Ca hypochlorite solution) and the plants haven't died (been flowering for a couple weeks now after six week veg). So far, so good. The small rafts of mold colonies that were left in the system after the last rinse out (I can't say I actually cleaned the res and fittings) have been broken up and the water is clear except for the amber color of Zone. I use bleach at the rate of 0.1 ml Clorox (8.25%) per gallon of nutrient solution.

About enzymes, I bought Pondzyme with Barley to eat the roots out of used Smartpots but I couldn't handle the stink of hydrogen sulfide in my basement. I guess the soaking buckets needed airstones. Now I just let the pots dry out and give 'em a shake and a rub down--no problem (Canna coco).
 
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Canna Fruits

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dlively11 said:
That is correct. Same EXACT ingredient as EZ Clone Clear Rez that sells for $20 a QT.

Get your self a 1 lb bag of HTH Pool shock non PH buffered available online and most hardware stores (bought mine from Ace). Mix 1 GRAM (450 in the bag) per gallon of solution. Will make the SAME EXACT concentration fo the SAME EXACT product. $4 will make you 450 gallons of the stuff and will treat over 286,000 gallons of water !!:clap: Should last you a little while ... Can you say markup ?? :shock:

Been using this on all my clone machines and all my ebb and flow reservoirs now with great success. You use 1 OZ per 5 gallons. I actually make it a lot stronger at 24 grams per gallon then only have to use a teaspoon per 5 gallons. Works very well in both systems. Works better then H202. You need to reapply every 3 days to keep bacteria at bay. You can actually use much stronger doses if you like. City water is 1-5 PPM of chorine when you add this it only raises the PPM level of chlorine less then 1/2 a PPM. Very safe and very effective. Found my PH levels to be much more stable in my larger reservoirs compared to using 2 doses of 30% H202 per week. Its doing a better job of killing the nasties :-o

$4 of this



Makes $2200 worth of this



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Thanks for the tip. How do you know that 1gram/Gallon makes the same concentration as Clear Rez? Did you compared by PPM?
 
SheepsBlood

SheepsBlood

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Since this has been resurrected from the dead... Let me ask you all what the point of Chlorine in my Rez would be if I keep my temps at or near 65F and have never had an issue with mold or other nasties?
Why are people having issues? No chiller?
I use hydroguard as a preventive and I have went without it also. I just use it in case the temps go up such as chiller dies or power goes out. (My chiller is actually a dehumidifier which works 10,000 times better than an overpriced chiller)
 
mmjmon

mmjmon

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SheepsBlood said:
Since this has been resurrected from the dead... Let me ask you all what the point of Chlorine in my Rez would be if I keep my temps at or near 65F and have never had an issue with mold or other nasties?
Why are people having issues? No chiller?
I use hydroguard as a preventive and I have went without it also. I just use it in case the temps go up such as chiller dies or power goes out. (My chiller is actually a dehumidifier which works 10,000 times better than an overpriced chiller)
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Did you make your chiller?
 
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