The Vault Comparative Grow, in association with Mephisto Genetics - Heisenberg Special Autos

green217

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View attachment 3639487 View attachment 3639488 Week 2 update #1,2,3 are under my t5 going into final pots in the morning and then under the 600 till i get room under the big light .#4 is in my flower room under the 1000 hps, all growth is about the same # 2 has nitro tea every other watering and #3 is at 1/4 strength bottle nutes, Thanks again guys for some good looking seeds i ve checked out some pics of other growers who grew this Heisenberg and they looked great.
Looking good! what you going to grow them under?
 

Sassafras¥

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No nutes at all really. I just cook up a nice organic coco bases soil with bat guano, seabird guano, kelp, rock phosphate, gypsum, azomite, and a few other things I cant think of but I just cook it up and just add water, coco water, aloe, seaweed, calmag, silica. Also a few AACT and SST as needed. Thats my recipe for eazy chronic. I get huge buds under a 400watt hid.
Sounds like a good mix and your ladies seem to like it allot. Once I get a few cycles under my belt I had planned on mixing up a nice batch like yours. Been thinking about the cooco been seeing and hearing good results from it while using the canna nutrients lineup. There a tad on the expensive side though, but hell if I can mix up a batch of soil and get the same results not having to use nutes that would be awesome and 4 sure a plus for me cause of working tedious hours..

congratulations on your baby girls!
Thanks bro.. yeah started hitting them with a batch of worm compost tea I made and they seem to be eating it up.. (;
 

bertaluchi

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Sounds like a good mix and your ladies seem to like it allot. Once I get a few cycles under my belt I had planned on mixing up a nice batch like yours. Been thinking about the cooco been seeing and hearing good results from it while using the canna nutrients lineup. There a tad on the expensive side though, but hell if I can mix up a batch of soil and get the same results not having to use nutes that would be awesome and 4 sure a plus for me cause of working tedious hours..


Thanks bro.. yeah started hitting them with a batch of worm compost tea I made and they seem to be eating it up.. (;
Give it a shot bro. I started picking up amendments a little bit at a time. And soon I had everything I needed. It seems a bit complicated but really it saves time and money.
 

green217

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When I took him out of the rapid rooters are not out of the rapid rooters excuse me I moved them into their final pots they're still in the rapid rooters. Unfortunately I lost track of which ones are which between the 2 different strains. Guess I'll just have to post pictures of them when they get bigger on both threads. Got high hopes for these, I'm stuck smoking trim and premature bud. It's a sad situation to be and I had to start all over these things happen from time to time. Butt hopefully I get a 70 today pheno out of it 10 of them. I put 8 in 3 gallon pots , and 2 in 5 gallon pots. Hopefully the gunji Gods smile On Me
 

green217

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I put them in their final pots have them under a 600 for now on 18/6. Plan on putting them in a sunny spot outside in a few weeks.
Not much to see now, but being autos hopefully they will start throwing out some buds soon, hoping for some quick finishing phenos. Are these light feeders? I don't have much experience with autos so any fertilization advice would be great, probably will be using GH duo series, maybe some PK booster too if that is the norm for autos not sure why it wouldn't be.
 

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UniDragon

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did you just plant one seed?
Yep, just one seed. I learned in my last project that I will get approximately three oz per run. So, if I grow one at a time I get three oz, if I grow six plants at the same time I also get three oz. To make this project more efficient I am doing one at a time. Furthermore, if I screw something up in germination, I only loose one seed and not all at the same time.
 

UniDragon

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Paper towel method? I only ask because I switch to doing it that way and my germination rates are great now no inconsistency unless I'm working with real old seeds
The method that I used for this project is pretty much exact to the last one: I take my seed, put it in the fold of two paper towels, wet the paper towel(s) with water ph'd from 5.8 to 6.1 and take the wet paper towel and put it in a plastic container that my wife's baby snake came in (she's not real thrilled about that) and put the container with the wet seed under my other baby snake's rug next to her heater and let it germ. I check the seed twice per day to make sure that it is still moist and once the seed grows a root I put it in The Tron. I screwed something up but not sure what yet. I am pretty sure that it had a root on it when I put it in The Tron, but then again maybe not and maybe I just thought that I saw a root because I really want to get this project rolling; so maybe I jumped the gun, idk. But anyway, soaked a rockwool cube in 6.1 water overnight and will be trying again soon.
 

green217

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The method that I used for this project is pretty much exact to the last one: I take my seed, put it in the fold of two paper towels, wet the paper towel(s) with water ph'd from 5.8 to 6.1 and take the wet paper towel and put it in a plastic container that my wife's baby snake came in (she's not real thrilled about that) and put the container with the wet seed under my other baby snake's rug next to her heater and let it germ. I check the seed twice per day to make sure that it is still moist and once the seed grows a root I put it in The Tron. I screwed something up but not sure what yet. I am pretty sure that it had a root on it when I put it in The Tron, but then again maybe not and maybe I just thought that I saw a root because I really want to get this project rolling; so maybe I jumped the gun, idk. But anyway, soaked a rockwool cube in 6.1 water overnight and will be trying again soon.
You don't have to throw it in anything until the tap root is out a ways. I usually wait an extra day after the root begins to show. Patience is vital when growing bud. Good luck on your next try, maybe that seed will show in a day or two. If it was just a real small root it will take a day or 3 before it begins to show it self out of the meduim
 

UniDragon

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You don't have to throw it in anything until the tap root is out a ways. I usually wait an extra day after the root begins to show. Patience is vital when growing bud. Good luck on your next try, maybe that seed will show in a day or two. If it was just a real small root it will take a day or 3 before it begins to show it self out of the meduim
I am pretty certain that I put the seed in the soil prematurely. I vaguely remember glancing at the seed and seeing something white and then assumed that it was a root. Some time ago, someone who had been using a Tron for decades told me that she took the seed or seeds that she would get in the mail and throw them in her Tron immediately after opening the envelope that they came in and had never had a problem germing, so I tried it and it didn't work...another lesson learned: make sure the seed has a root on it before planting.

I say that, watch, I'll get the 'new' seed germmed, with a visible root on it, and then the first one will pop.
 

whitebb2727

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I am pretty certain that I put the seed in the soil prematurely. I vaguely remember glancing at the seed and seeing something white and then assumed that it was a root. Some time ago, someone who had been using a Tron for decades told me that she took the seed or seeds that she would get in the mail and throw them in her Tron immediately after opening the envelope that they came in and had never had a problem germing, so I tried it and it didn't work...another lesson learned: make sure the seed has a root on it before planting.

I say that, watch, I'll get the 'new' seed germmed, with a visible root on it, and then the first one will pop.
I never mess with paper towels and other steps. I plant my seeds straight to dirt. Autos I plant straight to final pot.
 
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