Fox Farm soil
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BUSTALUNG
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Shit y'all got me worried about using it pure. I might go get some potting soil at Home Depot and mix 50-50
Vostok I knew it was hot but IMO I wouldn't try 2 or 3 grows with out nutes and I don't use nutes I just keep it simple (KISS) I have now came to the ultimate conclusion of reusing my FFOF soil and mixing 50/50 with new FFOF and that should be perfect for the seedlings then transplant into only new FFOF with AZOS root enhancer and all strains should be able to with stand this (I HOPE)
Budzbuddha
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I reuse the bottom portion of my container as the AUTOS i grow may only root out about half the container ( 3 or 5 gallon ) anyways. The end root mass is about half the volume of the original container. And since i only start feeding AFTER week 5 anyways and find this is viable soil i can reuse again.
I mix 50/50 light warrior and the remaining FFOF. I also add more perlite to this mix , and find it performs well. My grows never fully exhaust the imbedded nutes from the soil.
After 2 grows i toss.
I mix 50/50 light warrior and the remaining FFOF. I also add more perlite to this mix , and find it performs well. My grows never fully exhaust the imbedded nutes from the soil.
After 2 grows i toss.
BUSTALUNG
Active Member
Have any of y'all tried Happy Frog? I transplanted the first time into Happy Frog and my plants took off like a raped ape, I just put them in 1.5 or 2 gal plastic pots though I'm about to put them in fabric pots now though and try FFOF. If they take off again like they did in the Happy Frog I'll be shittin in high cotton!
Riddle me this... If FFOF or any other soil alone can do the full grow,why do most people buy into the whole nutes,seaweed extract,cal mag, and 50 other things I have read about..... Are all of there grows just off the charts,I kinda look at it like cancer screw the big Pharma just get some cannabis
vostok
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You/Me are one RARE Dudes, very few go natural like you here,
many old and new members have an overwhelming desire to add volumes of bottled sewage
in the believe that they will get redwoods, along with a lifetime of bud ....lol
I'd be adding 20-30% perlite to that soil, or clean river sand/gravels it adds air, avoid root compaction
and reduces any chance of nute burn ..yeah you can get nute burn with FFOF
IMO: I'd then transplant into the old soil thats been re-amended like with the seedling mix,
the difference is I stole my girls hose and have sieved the soil to make my own germing mix
it does make a huge difference, in time, to getting those seeds into plants
but with AZOS root enhancer, added at 50% per volume during germming
again good luck
Budzbuddha
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Thats why i dont jump on the AN NUTE train .... Makes no sense to spend shitloads of money and use multi-bottle nutes , supplements , bud candy , unicorn piss and whatever just to grow a fuckin weed !
Think about it ... What other plant around you needs so much shit to grow ?
Plug and play thinking is all you need. Leave the SPECIALIZED GROWING to the labs and nerds. All you want is a viable end product to medicate. As you search this forum , you will find the pissing contest between " growers " on who's the best or who has the best harvest .... Fuck all that ... Concentrate on WHAT YOU NEED.
There are great SIMPLE nute lines that are just Bloom and Grow feeds. Even a stupid Tomato Plant can grow just fine in bagged soil without anything but water.
I stopped that molasses shit ( no real difference i can notice ) , i ONLY concentrate on week 5-7 ( mid to late bloom stage ) for any supplements that MAY enhance a nicer flower. That's it. If i can make it from seed to harvest without drama , i call that a win.
I have the FOX FARM TRIO ( with their Bloom supplements - beastie , open sesame and cha ching ) but actually mothballed them in place of other simpler lines. I get less leaf issues and PH problems.
Think about it ... What other plant around you needs so much shit to grow ?
Plug and play thinking is all you need. Leave the SPECIALIZED GROWING to the labs and nerds. All you want is a viable end product to medicate. As you search this forum , you will find the pissing contest between " growers " on who's the best or who has the best harvest .... Fuck all that ... Concentrate on WHAT YOU NEED.
There are great SIMPLE nute lines that are just Bloom and Grow feeds. Even a stupid Tomato Plant can grow just fine in bagged soil without anything but water.
I stopped that molasses shit ( no real difference i can notice ) , i ONLY concentrate on week 5-7 ( mid to late bloom stage ) for any supplements that MAY enhance a nicer flower. That's it. If i can make it from seed to harvest without drama , i call that a win.
I have the FOX FARM TRIO ( with their Bloom supplements - beastie , open sesame and cha ching ) but actually mothballed them in place of other simpler lines. I get less leaf issues and PH problems.
I want to grow the healthiest product I can it's mainly for my wife as I probably smoke a Full joint every 2 months just cause I love Bud light more anyhow my wife has chronic pain,anxiety,and sometimes depression and this keeps all this in ck,I use to grow over 500 tomato plants totally organic every year and just figured this is how this should be done since we are consuming most of it,I'm glad to see others feeling this way after researching all the ways and complications behind all the ways this makes the only since to me
BUSTALUNG
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I ain't ever used nothing but cow shit, lime and a dead fish to grow until this year. The only reason I'm using FFOF this year is I wasn't expecting to grow so I didn't have a chance to fix my holes. I have grown pound plants with nothing but cows shit
if I can't grow it in cow shit and sun shine I don't need to fuck with it
vostok
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I just got a vaporizer and am working on a post for my blog:
this maybe of use to ur wife note the temps of the CBD and CBN stuff, and the temps they burn at
of use to 'pain putter uppers with !!'
Cannabinol Vaporization Temperatures...
Phytocannabinoids, their boiling points & properties
1. ?-9-TetraHydroCannabinol (THC) Boiling point: 157C / 314.6F
2. Cannabidiol (CBD) Boiling point: 160-180C / 320-356F
3. Cannabinol (CBN) Boiling point: 185C / 365F
4. Cannabichromene (CBC) Boiling point: 220C / 428F
5. ?-8-TetraHydroCannabinol (?-8-THC) Boiling point: 175-178C / 347-352.4F
6. TetraHydroCannabiVarin (THCV) Boiling point: 220C / 428F
Terpenoid essential oils, their boiling points, & properties
1. Β-myrcene Boiling point: 166-168C / 330.8-334.4F
2. Β-caryophyllene Boiling point: 119C / 246.2F
3. d-limonene Boiling point: 177C / 350.6F
4. linalool Boiling point: 198C / 388.4F
5. pulegone Boiling point: 224C / 435.2F
6. 1,8-cineole (eucalyptol) Boiling point: 176C / 348.8F
7. α-pinene Boiling point: 156C / 312.8F
8. α-terpineol Boiling point: 217-218C / 422.6-424.4F
9. terpineol-4-ol Boiling point: 209C / 408.2F
10. p-cymene Boiling point: 177C / 350.6F
11. borneol Boiling point: 210C / 410F
12. ?-3-carene Boiling point: 168C / 334.4F
Flavonoid & Phytosterol components, their boiling points, & properties
1. apigenin Boiling point: 178C / 352.4F
2. quercetin Boiling point: 250C / 482F
3. cannflavin A Boiling point: 182C / 359.6F
4. Β-sitosterol Boiling point: 134C / 273.2F
Material Flash (starts to burn): 230C / 446F....
My indoor grow consist of transplanted in 3 gallon pot with wood chips in the bottom 1-1/2 then FFOF make a hole for small pot and sprinkle AZOS in around hole then place plant add a little more FFOF to top and water then I just water when soil gets dry about 2inches down or I listen to what the plant says have them under Platinum led lighting along with filters and 2 fans blowing on them, mist air every couple days room temp 70 humidity 40 pretty dam easy,I can't believe how people can make this so complicated and then freak out
Now this is very useful I have been doing a lot of research on this as she uses a vap pen for her cigarette so we have tons of vap stuff and I have a friend in CO that uses his pen I will have to study this info
Funny thing is I live on a lake and have tons of river rock but I use croutons from cocoa coir I also sometimes put some extra perlite in if it looks a little thin
Corso312
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I love FFOF but usually it can't do the whole grow, some strains will starve halfway through bloom unless you transplanted to a huge pot right before the flip.. I pay 20$ a bag so its cheaper to use 3 and 5 gallon pots and feed em.. Jacks classic is what I use and switch to jacks citrus bloom halfway through flower..cheap and easy and outstanding results, before jacks I used floranova bloom start 2 finish.. I don't use all that fancy stuff..no need to. You only need calmag if you are using rain water or RO water..not tap water.
Corsica 3 FFOF has no problem doing the entire grow other than the only thing I have found is some strains don't like how hot the mix is when there seedlings,there's a lot of documented full term grows withFFOF and I have done several NO NUTES I transplant to 3 gallon on week 3 typically unless there very healthy then I do 2-1/2 week transplant then start bloom on week 5th or 6th week and run for atleast 8 weeks with no probs