Clinton, Trump or Gary Johnson
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passmethelid
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they usually do not allow 3rd parties on the same stage as dem/rep.
TheMan13
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What if Gary Johnson could make enough noise and gain a couple percent in the polls?
The Libertarian party is our nations largest 3rd party and Gary Johnson got on the ballot in every state except for Michigan (only as a write-in candidate) and Oklahoma in the last presidential election. In 2012 he received over one million votes or 1% of the vote ( 1,273,168 ).
potroastV2
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That 5 percent of the vote thing is what has been motivating Libertarian-thinking people, and what spurred the Free-State Project that was started over 20 years ago. I don't think we are any closer to achieving that still today. It's certainly disappointing. The Dems and Repubs know what they are doing to keep any third party out of the process.
sixstring2112
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i like the idea,but i think rand paul has a better chance just from name recognition.
TheMan13
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Imagine whom a President Gary Johnson would appoint to actually run our government? No longer a revolving door of incompetent cronies occupying these offices and holding our government hostage to their special interests 
Supreme Court Justice (or Secretary of the Treasury)? Ron Paul
US Attorney General (or Secretary of State)? Rand Paul
I jest, but under the law (Constitution) no position is required to be occupied by a lawyer (except US Solicitor General), no less an elitist/aristocratic Harvard or Yale Law School graduate. My point is that the long needed reform in those corrupt institutions will come from competent outsiders and that's all Gary Johnson knows. As a Governor the media called him "the most dangerous politician in America" ...
Supreme Court Justice (or Secretary of the Treasury)? Ron Paul
US Attorney General (or Secretary of State)? Rand Paul
I jest, but under the law (Constitution) no position is required to be occupied by a lawyer (except US Solicitor General), no less an elitist/aristocratic Harvard or Yale Law School graduate. My point is that the long needed reform in those corrupt institutions will come from competent outsiders and that's all Gary Johnson knows. As a Governor the media called him "the most dangerous politician in America" ...
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st0wandgrow
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He doesn't stand a chance, but if the choices are him, Trump, or Clinton...he gets the nod. No way in hell I want to see Trump or Clinton as potus!Imagine whom a President Gary Johnson would appoint to actually run our government? No longer a revolving door of incompetent cronies occupying these offices and holding our government hostage to their special interests
Supreme Court Justice (or Secretary of the Treasury)? Ron Paul
US Attorney General (or Secretary of State)? Rand Paul
I jest, but under the law (Constitution) no position is required to be occupied by a lawyer (except US Solicitor General), no less an elitist/aristocratic Harvard or Yale Law School graduate. My point is that the long needed reform in those corrupt institutions will come from competent outsiders and that's all Gary Johnson knows. As a Governor the media called him "the most dangerous politician in America" ...
Either that, or write in Santa Clause.
TheMan13
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That sounds too much like Hope &(for) Change to meEither that, or write in Santa Clause.
Time to vote for real folks ...
TheMan13
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It's been nearly two centuries (200yrs) since the Republicans established their roll in this countries two party system and even fought and won a civil war over the Democrat's bigotry and bastardization of the rule of law for profit. Yet these two parties are indistinguishable without the exploitation of ignorance (bigotry) and/or special interest partisan glasses today.
We need a third party NOW to put an end to this pervasive and profitable maintenance of the drug war as well as all the other crony industries (justice, tax and bank reform), just as we had to abolish the "legal ownership" and exploitation of human beings as property in not only this country, but the world over. It's a big task neither the Democrat or Republican parties have any intentions of addressing (conflict of interest).
Let's just hope it won't take another civil war in this country along with a new (clean) political party to effect change.
We need a third party NOW to put an end to this pervasive and profitable maintenance of the drug war as well as all the other crony industries (justice, tax and bank reform), just as we had to abolish the "legal ownership" and exploitation of human beings as property in not only this country, but the world over. It's a big task neither the Democrat or Republican parties have any intentions of addressing (conflict of interest).
Let's just hope it won't take another civil war in this country along with a new (clean) political party to effect change.
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TheMan13
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Poll shows Gary Johnson in double digits in 3-way race against Clinton, Trump
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/24/libertarian-gary-johnson-double-digits-race-agains/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/24/libertarian-gary-johnson-double-digits-race-agains/
TheMan13
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What is it about the Pauls that offend your political sensibilities so? Is it the Hippocratic oath required of their admirable and successful medical careers? I don't think you understand the meaning of hypocrisy ...
Good advice from a good man:
"Tell the truth. Keep your word. Be on time, it shows respect. Don't say one thing and do another. That's hypocrisy and that's unforgivable. Get a job that you love ..."
kaka420
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Some college aged Burnie supporters showed up at my door a week ago, they got school on Burnie's Federal Reserve votes and the real reason Burnie wants to raise taxes. Like every other Burnie supporter I have spoken with they prefer to ignore facts that don't fit the hype train.
As for me, I want to see complete political anarchy. I want the politicians and ruling elite to be scared daily. I'd like to see politician become a job that nobody wants. As it stands now, its all a big puppet show/circle jerk.
As for me, I want to see complete political anarchy. I want the politicians and ruling elite to be scared daily. I'd like to see politician become a job that nobody wants. As it stands now, its all a big puppet show/circle jerk.
TheMan13
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So are you an extreme right winger kaka420? Anarchy (no government) is as far to the right of the political continuum as you can get. That's not my thing personally, but definitely admirable in light of today's establishment politics. Although some left wingers confused by radical (Alinsky) rhetoric actually believe that they are Anarchists (total government), not simply tools and that's scary as hell IMHO ...
I honestly believe the recent Occupy Wall Street and Tea Party movements are not as divided as the Democrats and Republicans would like us to believe and only education, not repeated story lines will ever change that.
I honestly believe the recent Occupy Wall Street and Tea Party movements are not as divided as the Democrats and Republicans would like us to believe and only education, not repeated story lines will ever change that.
kaka420
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Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word anarchy, more like I'd like to see politicians held accountable in extreme ways. That will never happen but I do enjoy watching someone rock their boat/pee in their cheerios. At the end of the day it is still two wings of the same bird.
I'd like to see the Federal Reserve become everyones main issue. The world is literally dumping our treasuries, like a hot potato, better find a chair before the music stops type stuff. Leaving the fed as the buyer of last resort. I won't ramble on but its about to get real ugly out there.
I'd like to see the Federal Reserve become everyones main issue. The world is literally dumping our treasuries, like a hot potato, better find a chair before the music stops type stuff. Leaving the fed as the buyer of last resort. I won't ramble on but its about to get real ugly out there.
TheMan13
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I hear you brother, the People are clueless as to how that game works. Feeding our banks trillions in nearly free cash at the Federal Reserve discount window (aka printing money) in order to sell them trillions in national debt and then have the tax payers in turn pay interest on that same cash they just printed and gave away seems criminal. Then again without this "market" and these ill gotten gains (dividends) who could/would fund these historical billion dollar political campaigns of the likes of Obama and Clinton
A recent lessen in complete and utter hypocrisy:
4 trillion in 8 years by a war time president = "That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic."
12 trillion in 8 years by Barrack Obama It's time to wake the fuck up People!
A recent lessen in complete and utter hypocrisy:
4 trillion in 8 years by a war time president = "That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic."
12 trillion in 8 years by Barrack Obama
It's time to wake the fuck up People!
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potroastV2
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If that is what you actually think, then you are the one who is asleep!12 trillion in 8 years by Barrack Obama
