Midwest Weedist
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Lol I was just about to post the gist of what you typed up yesterday.
First attempt at recycling soil
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greasemonkeymann
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yea, when I found out langbeinite had chlorine levels up to 5%!
I was like how in the shit isn't that fryin stuff, and plus I have a VERY rudimentary understanding of chemistry and I always thought chlorine wasn't stable in a crystal form at atmospheric temps, density, etc, hell even as a liquid it's not really stable, as it's volatility rate is pretty high, hence the reason it smells so strong..
Remembering the chemical warfare the germans used back in WW1...
ironically and sadly chlorine is being used again to kill people in Syria just recently
MustangStudFarm
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The VA treated my well water with fluoride! I expected it to bubble off like chlorine, but no, it takes a carbon filter. I still dont understand it that well... I did a little research and found an article that said that 70% of american water supply is treated with Fl.
http://fluoridealert.org/articles/50-reasons/
In Europe, only Ireland (73%), Poland (1%), Serbia (3%), Spain (11%), and the U.K. (11%) fluoridate any of their water. Most developed countries, including Japan and 97% of the western European population, do not consume fluoridated water.
In the U.S., about 70% of public water supplies are fluoridated. This equates to approximately 185 million people, which is over half the number of people drinking artificially fluoridated water worldwide. Some countries have areas with high natural fluoride levels in the water. These include India, China and parts of Africa. In these countries measures are being taken to remove the fluoride because of the health problems that fluoride can cause.
Fluoridation is a bad medical practice
1) Fluoride is the only chemical added to water for the purpose of medical treatment. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) classifies fluoride as a drugwhen used to prevent or mitigate disease (FDA 2000). As a matter of basic logic, adding fluoride to water for the sole purpose of preventing tooth decay (a non-waterborne disease) is a form of medical treatment. All other water treatment chemicals are added to improve the water’s quality or safety, which fluoride does not do.
http://fluoridealert.org/articles/50-reasons/
In Europe, only Ireland (73%), Poland (1%), Serbia (3%), Spain (11%), and the U.K. (11%) fluoridate any of their water. Most developed countries, including Japan and 97% of the western European population, do not consume fluoridated water.
In the U.S., about 70% of public water supplies are fluoridated. This equates to approximately 185 million people, which is over half the number of people drinking artificially fluoridated water worldwide. Some countries have areas with high natural fluoride levels in the water. These include India, China and parts of Africa. In these countries measures are being taken to remove the fluoride because of the health problems that fluoride can cause.
Fluoridation is a bad medical practice
1) Fluoride is the only chemical added to water for the purpose of medical treatment. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) classifies fluoride as a drugwhen used to prevent or mitigate disease (FDA 2000). As a matter of basic logic, adding fluoride to water for the sole purpose of preventing tooth decay (a non-waterborne disease) is a form of medical treatment. All other water treatment chemicals are added to improve the water’s quality or safety, which fluoride does not do.
jafro daweedhound
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The victims of chlorine gas attacks in WW1 were studied and through the findings chemo therapy was developed.
greasemonkeymann
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Right you are!
well sorta.. you are totally right in that it was chemical warfare victims of WW1
but it was the victims of the mustard gas..
I am macabrely interested in world wars, ww2 was the one that really fascinated me.
And the Vietnam war..
damn the Vietnam war was BRUTAL...
imagine falling through a pitfall and getting a feces-smeared spear in your leg...
even if you live the ensuing agony is a SLOW death sentence...
Midwest Weedist
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If you like wars you should look up Dan Carlins Hardcore History, seriously the best person to narrate the most brutal parts of history.
greasemonkeymann
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ahh I will!
my ex girlfriend thought I was nuts
Course she was right, but for the wrong reasons...
Midwest Weedist
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Non Compos Mentis. I don't think anyone truly has a mastery over their own mind. We're all a little looney!
Great podcast series though. Loves his extremely long mini series on the mongolians though.
astronautrob
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Been growing a month or so in this recycled soil and it's doing quiet nicely. Ended up adding a few more things before I actually planted:
1/2 - 1 cup texas green sand,
1 - 1 1/2 cup blood meal,
1 cup humate,
and 2-3 cups rock phosphate.
Already thinking about what I should amend with when I'm done with this run.....
Don't really know what breaks down quickly and what is going to stay in the soil. Haven't had any trouble with the water though, just letting it sit out for 24-48 hours before use. Also wondering if watering with some aloe would be ok? I'm guessing it would but not certain. I've also been testing smart pots vs. plastic pots for myself this run. At this point, I don't notice any difference.
1/2 - 1 cup texas green sand,
1 - 1 1/2 cup blood meal,
1 cup humate,
and 2-3 cups rock phosphate.
Already thinking about what I should amend with when I'm done with this run.....
Don't really know what breaks down quickly and what is going to stay in the soil. Haven't had any trouble with the water though, just letting it sit out for 24-48 hours before use. Also wondering if watering with some aloe would be ok? I'm guessing it would but not certain. I've also been testing smart pots vs. plastic pots for myself this run. At this point, I don't notice any difference.
Joe Blows Trees
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Watering with aloe is cool. You can foliar with it as well.
astronautrob
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Right on, thanks for the clarification. Yea that's what I've been doing but now that I'm getting in to flowering I'll stop spraying soon but still want to be able to get aloe to them every once in awhile
Joe Blows Trees
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I'm actually about to foliar my flower room about 15min or so before lights on in the morning. The plants are anywhere from 8 weeks in to just being put in two days ago. I go lighter on the ones closest to finishing and a little heavier on the ones with plenty of time left. So far, I haven't noticed any ill affects from aloe foliar late in flowering. I've harvested twice since I've started and with proper drying and curing it's fine.
astronautrob
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That's awesome. I have 6 ladies in flower right now I think I'll try to keep misting one to see how it does but it sounds like from your experience there is really no ill effects. Do you mist with just aloe/water or anything else?
Joe Blows Trees
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In the first 4 weeks they get a mold/bug foliar once a week. After that, just aloe water once or twice a week. Hopefully I can cut the insect and mold prevention down to once every two weeks or so when I finish up my new area. It'll be sealed and I'll be taking every possible precaution to keep it clean and bug free, especially since I'll also be in my vegetable garden. Thankfully I've been winning the war on mites so far, little bastards. 
astronautrob
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Yea I need to step my bug prevention game up I know I'm too relaxed because I haven't had any issues in a very long time. Since I've been forced to grow in a tent the one good thing I can say is it is much easier to keep clean when you can seal off the area. Hate those little shits
astronautrob
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Have you ever used diatomaceous earth in your soil to help with bugs?
Joe Blows Trees
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I have and actually need to pick some more up along with some sand to stop these pesky gnats.
astronautrob
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Right on, I was thinking about throwing some in on my next round of amendments but didn't know much about it other than it helps with bugs. I'm just confused about figuring out what needs to be added after my first run with the soil? Definitely going to do compost and some rice husk, but stuff like bone meal, blood meal, alfalfa meal, those kinds of things, do they break down so quickly that I need to add more and cook again or is it good for another run?
I guess I could just run it and use teas if I see deficiencies, experimentation is the best way to figure stuff out
I guess I could just run it and use teas if I see deficiencies, experimentation is the best way to figure stuff out
DonBrennon
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The DE only helps against bugs when it's dry, so adding it to a soil mix to deter pests is pointless, although I think I've read that it's a good source of silica in a mix, don't quote me on that though. It works by having extremely sharp edges which cut and pierce the skin of pests coming into contact with it. But it is rendered useless when it gets wet.
Joe Blows Trees
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I think you're right about the silica @DonBrennon I believe I read that somewhere. I use the DE as a top dress and I'm about to start adding a one to two inch layer of sand to my pots to keep the gnats from multiplying.
As for reamending your soil, it depends on the amount and types of amends you used. Some are very slow to break down like greensand and others will be depleted around harvest time. My first official organic harvest is coming in a few weeks and I'll be recycling my soil too. I'll keep you posted on how I choose to do it.
As for reamending your soil, it depends on the amount and types of amends you used. Some are very slow to break down like greensand and others will be depleted around harvest time. My first official organic harvest is coming in a few weeks and I'll be recycling my soil too. I'll keep you posted on how I choose to do it.