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RM3

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Well your advice to people is to use that, or for smaller, 315W CMH, which is reasonable advice. Suggesting that noobs should fill their 3x3 with tubes or cfls is just unethical.
And yet several have and are happy with the results

No one is tellin you to change how you grow

But there are a few folks out and about that want better weed

I simply tell em how to get it
 

ttystikk

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Well your advice to people is to use that, or for smaller, 315W CMH, which is reasonable advice. Suggesting that noobs should fill their 3x3 with tubes or cfls is just unethical.
Unethical? Da fuk you talkin' about, Willis?

They're reasonably efficient, cheap, low heat, low intensity and produce a good and eminently tunable spectrum. How is any of that 'unethical'?!

I think MH and single ended HPS should be outlawed, if anything, right along with magnetic ballasts, for crimes against my power bill. All these are arguably less efficient than T5. I'm already hearing rumblings to this effect, in fact.
 

DCobeen

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Okay seems like a concerned person or 3 here. Nobody who grows wants to admit that someone can do it better/faster and achieve great yield over a few grows but I will say this. I grow dam great smoke and I take a bow to RM3 as his beets mine. I am close but again his is better. I have smoked all around this country and have found none overall to beet his. He has it perfected and does it in less time. I have boiled roots and what it does is makes the plant eat all that is left and finishes drying with a partial cure. I can say this I have grown with every light source out there and T5 HO with aquarium bulbs rock it. Only thing is you cant grow big monster plants with them and they wont be as dense but when you smoke a J with 6 people and they are all baked you know it rocks and dont care what light source you used. Its about perfecting all in a grow and RM3 has done that. If anyone says BS with out trying it then a fool you are as talking without experience means idiot. So go ahead and talk bad without trying it as Then I can put you in the idiot list and ignore you. If he was full if shit he wouldnt have over 400 members in his site as we would all have left a long time ago. We all agree he is a bit diff but his advise is solid and tested. If you really want to grow listen to him. You dont have to do it all his way but if you did life would be easier.
 

oldwatershoes

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Make sure to flush out the roots with boiling water when you're done. THC comes from the roots and boiling it causes it to rise to the buds.
I've never done a case study on the difference between flowering with a T-5 compared with other HID lights but I would never take advice from someone who has their cultivation practices embedded in old wives tales and folklore rather than objective research and analysis. Throwing boiling water on the roots of a plant may shock it in a way that does in fact cause it to produce more weight or compounds such as cannabinoids but your analysis of where THC comes from is absurd. THC is written into the genes of cannabis much like how insulin and so many other compounds in our bodies are written into our DNA. Yes the cannabis plant's roots do play a large role in helping produce THC but your train of thinking is so misconstrued as to the actual science involved with this process.
 

RM3

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I've never done a case study on the difference between flowering with a T-5 compared with other HID lights but I would never take advice from someone who has their cultivation practices embedded in old wives tales and folklore rather than objective research and analysis. Throwing boiling water on the roots of a plant may shock it in a way that does in fact cause it to produce more weight or compounds such as cannabinoids but your analysis of where THC comes from is absurd. THC is written into the genes of cannabis much like how insulin and so many other compounds in our bodies are written into our DNA. Yes the cannabis plant's roots do play a large role in helping produce THC but your train of thinking is so misconstrued as to the actual science involved with this process.
He was actually makin fun of the fact that I do it, as do many others

and while it sounds like an old wives tale there is actual science that @churchhaze does not want to acknowledge and it has NOTHING to do with THC

It is based on the FACT that plants ferment sugars into alcohol to survive floods, ALL plants do it and it is caused by the floods killing access to O2 to the roots. If you flood your plants you open things up like mold and bud rot. Watering the roots with boiling water instantly kills roots access to O2 and causes the plan t to start the fermenting process. Leaving it under the lights for 3 to 5 days (varies with strains) causes a fast fade to happen. Once chopped & dried buds will taste like they have had a 10 day cure.

So to simplify Boiling the roots speeds up the cure 8)
 

Resinhound

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I've never done a case study on the difference between flowering with a T-5 compared with other HID lights but I would never take advice from someone who has their cultivation practices embedded in old wives tales and folklore rather than objective research and analysis. Throwing boiling water on the roots of a plant may shock it in a way that does in fact cause it to produce more weight or compounds such as cannabinoids but your analysis of where THC comes from is absurd. THC is written into the genes of cannabis much like how insulin and so many other compounds in our bodies are written into our DNA. Yes the cannabis plant's roots do play a large role in helping produce THC but your train of thinking is so misconstrued as to the actual science involved with this process.
You should read rm3's posts,I dont think he ever said he does it because THC is in the roots...he does it to speed curing and to force the plant to use all availiable nutrients left above the roots.

Dont base your opinions of the man based on one snarky response.

That being said im not totally sold on the practice,but im not adverse to trying it.

Edit:rm3 beat me to it.
 

churchhaze

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You boil your roots too, right? If not, why not? Boiling the roots causes the THC to flow from the roots to the trichs. THC comes from the roots! When the roots become hot, they will turn red and this red substance (THC) will work its way up the stem until it finally reaches the buds, saturating the crystals with THC.

Also, why are you growing with HPS? You could be using actinic tubes! You'd finally have a good quality smoke to brag about! You could get your potency as high as 25%!

Oh, and sulfur feeds trichs, right? That's a hard science right there. You're overfeeding sulfur right? You should also overfeed P.
 
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RM3

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Oh god, I've angered the leprechaun posse. Yeah I'm sure RM3's forum is wonderful, but it pales in comparison to RIU.
In members and traffic yes it does,

in info that is true and based on facts, botany & horticulture with no nonsense, trolls, memes, name calling arguments, we win hands down.

New growers actually get help and have great grows rather than 10 different opinions

and to be fair there is no posse, merely a few folks that know what the truth is
 

RM3

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You boil your roots too, right? If not, why not? Boiling the roots causes the THC to flow from the roots to the trichs. THC comes from the roots! When the roots become hot, they will turn red and this red substance (THC) will work its way up the stem until it finally reaches the buds, saturating the crystals with THC.

Also, why are you growing with HPS? You could be using actinic tubes! You'd finally have a good quality smoke to brag about! You could get your potency as high as 25%!

Oh, and sulfur feeds trichs, right? That's a hard science right there. You're overfeeding sulfur right? You should also overfeed P.
No one ever said this but you LOL
 

churchhaze

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In members and traffic yes it does,

in info that is true and based on facts, botany & horticulture with no nonsense, trolls, memes, name calling arguments, we win hands down.

New growers actually get help and have great grows rather than 10 different opinions

and to be fair there is no posse, merely a few folks that know what the truth is
I disagree. RIU is better in factual information too.
 

RM3

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What question are you talking about?
I asked how many of your buds/strains meet my criteria ?

you said you grow spectacular buds but that does not answer my question ?

how many requires a number or none for an answer
 

skunkwreck

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My buddy boils his roots....I thought it was the stupidest thing I've ever heard but now maybe I understand a little why he does that lol....when I grew with cfl's I always thought my plants seemed happier and to be real honest (ppl gonna act stupid) I pull about the same with them cfl's as I do with hps , now for some reason I like flowering under a 4300k MH it makes my plants "look" better . I'm wanting to try a 7000k MH just to see what the kelvin difference between the two will do....my love for cfl's is the many different k ratings that you can find in them and i really think spectrum is a major player in growing cannabis more so then light intensity .
 

churchhaze

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My buddy boils his roots....I thought it was the stupidest thing I've ever heard but now maybe I understand a little why he does that lol....when I grew with cfl's I always thought my plants seemed happier and to be real honest (ppl gonna act stupid) I pull about the same with them cfl's as I do with hps , now for some reason I like flowering under a 4300k MH it makes my plants "look" better . I'm wanting to try a 7000k MH just to see what the kelvin difference between the two will do....my love for cfl's is the many different k ratings that you can find in them and i really think spectrum is a major player in growing cannabis more so then light intensity .
Why buy a 7000k MH? You'd clearly be better off with a bunch of actinic T-5s, right RM3? Anyway, I've gotta go to work.
 

churchhaze

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I asked how many of your buds/strains meet my criteria ?

you said you grow spectacular buds but that does not answer my question ?

how many requires a number or none for an answer
What's your criteria, fluffy buds with trichs that degrade before senescence? If so, no. None of my buds meet your criteria.
 
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