Anyone ordered from Substrate Genetics?

hockeybry2

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Would it be okay for me to repost here what information I have about Substrate Genetics site disappearing?

I think it might be helpful.

Have some screenshots of a conversation (SMS/Text Messages) with the owner after the site went (including his explanations).


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Please do. Many looking for answers
 

ogtank

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Previously Posted On Another Forum:

I posted this to let everyone know what I knew and because I couldn't find info anywhere else.

This is just what I know for a fact. But who knows, this could all just be a big misunderstanding. I'm not purposely accusing anyone of anything, this is just what happened to me and someone else.

I made an order with them right before the site went down. So I am pretty ticked off as well.

Yesterday:

After all of this (the site going down completely, etc.), I received a message from another Member here (in response to the OP on other forum) that included a few photos. This person wants to remain anonymous, and I am going to respect their privacy due to the nature of all this.

This Member had made an order and went back an hour later to make another order (after forgetting something else they wanted). This Member found the site in the same condition as I found it (in the OP from the other forum- basically showing the site being down and the errors received when trying to go to the Substrate Genetics website).

This Memeber contacted Substrate Genetics directly via SMS/Text Message to see what was going on.

Here are the screenshots I received from this Member:

The phone numbers displayed in these screenshots are not private. They are publicly displayed and accessible all over the internet as the main contact phone number for Substrate Genetics. They are not violating anyone's private information.


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The phone numbers displayed in these screenshots are not private. They are publicly displayed and accessible all over the internet as the main contact phone number for Substrate Genetics. They are not violating anyone's private information.

I don't know if it's just me, but this seemed odd. I have exchanged many emails with the owner in the past and I have never received an email with replies like this. I don't know how to explain what I mean. Do you get what I'm saying? It just doesn't seem anything like him. He writes in a different way. But then again, it could be him and this Member and I are both just tripping.

I haven't tried to contact Substrate Genetics yet (via Phone/SMS/Text Message), but thought about doing it yesterday (until I received these screenshots).

I have sent Substrate Genetics (SubstrateGenetics / www.SubstrateGenetics.com) many emails with no replies, but that's it.

They have my money, and I don't know what to do now...


LH&R
-ogtank

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greencropper

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Previously Posted On Another Forum:

I posted this to let everyone know what I knew and because I couldn't find info anywhere else.

This is just what I know for a fact. But who knows, this could all just be a big misunderstanding. I'm not purposely accusing anyone of anything, this is just what happened to me and someone else.

I made an order with them right before the site went down. So I am pretty ticked off as well.

Yesterday:

After all of this (the site going down completely, etc.), I received a message from another Member here (in response to the OP on other forum) that included a few photos. This person wants to remain anonymous, and I am going to respect their privacy due to the nature of all this.

This Member had made an order and went back an hour later to make another order (after forgetting something else they wanted). This Member found the site in the same condition as I found it (in the OP from the other forum- basically showing the site being down and the errors received when trying to go to the Substrate Genetics website).

This Memeber contacted Substrate Genetics directly via SMS/Text Message to see what was going on.

Here are the screenshots I received from this Member:

The phone numbers displayed in these screenshots are not private. They are publicly displayed and accessible all over the internet as the main contact phone number for Substrate Genetics. They are not violating anyone's private information.


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The phone numbers displayed in these screenshots are not private. They are publicly displayed and accessible all over the internet as the main contact phone number for Substrate Genetics. They are not violating anyone's private information.

I don't know if it's just me, but this seemed odd. I have exchanged many emails with the owner in the past and I have never received an email with replies like this. I don't know how to explain what I mean. Do you get what I'm saying? It just doesn't seem anything like him. He writes in a different way. But then again, it could be him and this Member and I are both just tripping.

I haven't tried to contact Substrate Genetics yet (via Phone/SMS/Text Message), but thought about doing it yesterday (until I received these screenshots).

I have sent Substrate Genetics (SubstrateGenetics / www.SubstrateGenetics.com) many emails with no replies, but that's it.

They have my money, and I don't know what to do now...


LH&R
-ogtank

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i wonder if the fuzz would pretend to be substrate? would they do that?paranoia.png
 

ogtank

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i wonder if the fuzz would pretend to be substrate? would they do that?View attachment 3646378
All I know is that I have tons of emails between "Rooty" and I and he doesn't write like this.

If you'd like, I can post an email here for you to compare.

It's just too weird... I am worried about my $$ and about what happened.

These were from whoever has the Substrate Genetics phone and the replies seemed more like an Auto-Reply or Copy/Paste from the website or an Ad...

Other seed bank owners who answer with Auto-Reply type replies? I can think of only one, but that doesn't prove anything.



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hockeybry2

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All I know is that I have tons of emails between "Rooty" and I and he doesn't write like this.

If you'd like, I can post an email here for you to compare.

It's just too weird... I am worried about my $$ and about what happened.

These were from whoever has the Substrate Genetics phone and it seemed more like an Auto-Reply.

Other seed bank owners who answer with Auto-Reply type replies? I can think of only one, but that doesn't prove anything.



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-ogtank

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Rooty was a good dude and really responsive...ya I'm worried too as well as a few others here
 

ogtank

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Rooty was a good dude and really responsive...ya I'm worried too as well as a few others here
Yeah. I feel ya. I ordered from him A-LOT.

I'm not trying to call him out or smack talk him. I meant for this information to be helpful and show what actual responses came from his business phone line. No rumors for me, just facts. And with these facts, I'm concerned about him and anyone else who was a customer (if something bad happened). This just doesn't seem like him (with the phone).

He hasn't posted anywhere with any other information or explanations. As of now, these SMS/Text Messages are all we have. Unless someone who knows his voice wants to call for themselves, we are left with just what we have here... I have talked to him before, but I ain't trying to call.


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-ogtank

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ogtank

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everything is super fishy.

If something bad did not happen, why is he not trying to clear the air or his name?
EXACTLY.

I don't know what to do...

I think something bad happened to him.

And I don't know what that means for him, everyone else and any orders/$$ that didn't/won't go through.

We should check for news in his area (envelope/package return addresses for state and city?) and check for any busts.


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ray2013

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Greetings farmer's I'm not associated with subtract genetics. I came across this post. A while back there was a post on IG letting everyone know that someone had hacked their phone number an email. To place an order would be best to just call or dm them on IG. Now. I too have attempted to look on their website and ran into the same issue. I think if there is an issue, people should just dm them on IG .
 
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hockeybry2

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Greetings farmer's I'm not associated with subtract genetics. I came across this post. A while back there was a post on IG letting everyone know that someone had hacked their phone number an email. To place an order would be be to just call or dm them on IG. Now. I too have attempted to look on their website and ran into the same issue. I think if there is an issue, people should just dm them on IG .
Their ig is offline too
 

ray2013

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Greetings farmer's I'm not associated with subtract genetics. I came across this post. A while back there was a post on IG letting everyone know that someone had hacked their phone number an email. To place an order would be be to just call or dm them on IG. Now. I too have attempted to look on their website and ran into the same issue. I think if there is an issue, people should just dm them on IG .
 

ray2013

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Not to sure how it went down. But in house genetics accused one of their vendors of doing some shady stuff with their beans. Well, come to find out said vendor put it on IG that in house genetics knew their recent release of their gear had a high hermie prone rate. Next thing everyone knew, people started getting their accounts deleted from IG
 
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