rkymtnman
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I know for a fact that the local police have done at least one driveby on our block checking every house out with an infrared unit
seriously? are you here in the US? that's messed up.
I know for a fact that the local police have done at least one driveby on our block checking every house out with an infrared unit
if you have to vent use it going out where your dryer vent is hooked up and if you have sub-flooring , then down below the houseI never exhust outside, also my grow room temps dont exceed 23/24 c
I didnt isolate the room becouse
Any normal house haven this temps inside.
Flir Chopper is continuesly above my house.
Touch wood nothing till now..
Yeah it's about $50 month per 1000 watt light INCLUDING AC. I run 8-12 kW in basement at 10¢ per kwh, that's including delivery... I run 11/13. Only go off when I trim.50 bucks a light is not bad.. 1000w?
Yep. I believe I pay .37 kWh. Then if you go over a certain total kWh they tier it and it goes up to .45 kWh.Yeah right, who pays $3,000 a month to run 12 lights????? I pay $600. Whats Cali rates like? 30¢ kWh?
i think that has nothing to do with the topic at hand .http://www.hightimes.com/read/grow-hack-7-ways-silencing-your-growroom?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+HIGHTIMESMagazine+(HIGH+TIMES+Magazine)
Yes i know that pot heads think high times is a joke
Pretty much. Yea.i think that has nothing to do with the topic at hand .
and your two days late with the jokes . you are definitely a stoner.April fools day
The work under a tier system in caliYeah right, who pays $3,000 a month to run 12 lights????? I pay $600. Whats Cali rates like? 30¢ kWh?
Water cooling is the solution. Build a decent size garden pond. That Will solve the heat signature and also save power. Water is efficient to transfer heat.Two things - if you're building in a rural area, people talk. Word gets around. So I'd get out in front of the issue and take control of the narrative right from the beginning. Let the builder know that you're a potter, and that this part of the structure is going to be a ceramics studio. Potters need kilns, and kilns take a lot of heat - either gas or electric. If you decide to offset some of the use with a generator, that would explain the gas usage. Or, you could use that story to explain a larger electric bill.
Even put a sign out by the mailbox, "Sunrise Pottery Studio" or something. Get on mailing lists and have lots of pottery-related junk mail delivered on a regular basis. The mailman will notice, and again, word gets around. Neighbors and service vehicles driving past (and sheriff's deputies) will notice, and pretty soon everybody in the immediate area "knows" you're running a small, hobby-sized pottery studio. Just be sure you know enough about pottery and ceramics to know what you're talking about if the mailman or a neighbor strikes up a conversation.
Second, you need to be mindful of heat issues. If there may already be suspicions about your energy use, it's not a really good idea for that grow space to be significantly hotter than the rest of the house, because a chopper can spot that from literally miles away. You're going to want to insulate it well, or plan on keeping it climate controlled to match the temperature of the rest of the house. Again, the pottery studio cover story is useful here, but it's better not to attract the attention of a helicopter drug team in the first place. As soon as they start checking into it, the first thing they hear may be your cover story, but since they've already gone to the trouble of starting to ask questions they may decide to just poke a little further and ask a few more.
And what provisions have you made for venting the excess heat? You can't just blow it directly out of the building into the open. Infrared cameras on a helicopter will see that like the exhaust from a jet engine. At night, it will look to an FLIR unit as though you're testing a rocket engine. Check out Barry Cooper's "Never Get Raided" video on Youtube; they show footage of what a grow house actually looks like at night. It's pretty eye-opening.
Honestly, the heat disposal question is probably just as important as the electrical question, in terms of security. I'd give that a lot of thought, because the place you're talking about building could fit fairly well within the range of a grow house profile - new building in a remote area, one room (or even a separate structure) with atypical design features and heavy-duty electrical infrastructure, very high energy usage from the start, maybe someone who is a stranger to the area, etc. If that's a separate building, and it's hotter than the house, it's going to arouse a lot of suspicion. Cops can't legally use FLIR to get a warrant, but they do regularly use it to confirm that this is a house they need to have a closer look at, and then they start looking for other data to establish probable cause.
Edit: Oh, and if your area has mandatory smart meters, I would definitely lean really hard toward alternative energy sources like solar, generators, etc. It's more expensive, but what's your freedom and your property worth? Because if you get popped, you lose both.
Who the hell pays .37 to .45 per kWh? Are you sure about that? Average US electric rate is 10-12 cents per kWhYep. I believe I pay .37 kWh. Then if you go over a certain total kWh they tier it and it goes up to .45 kWh.
50 bucks a light is not bad.. 1000w?
Don't go HPS. Go COB.Ok, so I'm currently underway on building a new cabin style home that's approximately 1800 sq ft total; 1100 h&c. I'm wanting to build a pier & beam grow facility behind the home. I currently live in a state where it's illegal & don't want to raise any suspicion with the utility companies. I would like my grow to yield at the minimum 5lbs per harvest, use HPS lamps, run a hydro system, & maintain a good temp/humidity level. What's the max amount of power I can get away with & not cause any suspicion? By knowing this it will allow me to know how to scale my facility. Keep in mind I live in a rural area, & there will be no power spike due to starting my bill w/ home & facility from jump street. Also, I will have an option to have city natural gas so running on a generator could be an option, but then we have the same concern on gas bill suspicion too. Please give me some good feedback! Thanks in advance!
Ive been advised that you can heat a house overnight with hpsDon't go HPS. Go COB.
I pay just under $20 a month for the PPFD of 600w worth of HPS lighting in a 4x2 (but could go up to 4.5x4.5) and don't have to worry about scrubbers or AC, personally.I pay 50-60 $ light total for my rooms. so when I run 8 lights on 11/13 it's $400 or so a month but that includes a.c, fans, scrubbers.
Going into an industrial setting it's going to be 1.5x that. smh
You can, but you'll be paying out the ass for it.Ive been advised that you can heat a house overnight with hps