BigBud420.
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I'm not talking about flushing I'm saying when to stop with nutrients
Will my buds get much bigger?
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BigBud420.
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So what your basically saying to me is to give nutrients up until I chop the plants down and don't flush unless the medium is toxic. So doing it like that there will not be any harsh taste in the smoke ?????
superbak3d
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Harshness comes from over fertilization and/or a poor dry and cure.
Drying removes the chlorophyll and water built up. Curing breaks down remaining sugars.
You'll never get harsh smoke if you dry and cure correctly.
BigBud420.
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OK thanks guys now I understand. You mind taking a look at these pics got some real strange spotting appearing
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Cannacat
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In my extremely inexperienced opinion it could be a manganese def but you need to do a shit ton of reading to figure it out really cos I'm no expert and once you start looking into it you may find you have other symptoms too that point to something else. I can't be arsed looking back through to see if you mentioned your pH but it could be that it's too high. Or someone who knows what they're taling about might be able to help you with it. But I'd still do the reading
Try here to get you started: http://www.thenug.com/galleries/diagnose-your-sick-marijuana-plants
http://www.royalqueenseeds.com/blog-cannabis-nutrient-and-deficiency-table-n88
http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/tables_guide.php
MrStickyScissors
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Kelp is a flower hardner. Works well but apply at a low dose, iv burnt the shot outa plants with just 5ml per gallon of kelp. Guess its strain related
Dr. Who
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Can't see the whole plant, Hows the new growth look at the top.
I would be inclined to say add Ca/Mg with some Iron in it like G&H CALi MAGic.
The second could be high P but, I would ask what your feeding and how much, how often.
Tell me all the things you add please!
Dr. Who
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I think you might have had another issue alongside your Kelp use SF.
Kelp is a root enhancer and contains so many great things in it!
Many folks buy multiple supplements to gain the benefit of simply Kelp!
5ml per gallon has been my go to ratio for, well, almost ever! I should add that I never had a problem with that ratio - even for seedlings! G&H "Rapid Root" that's "so concentrated" is basically kelp with some synthetic crap added....The real work on the roots is done by the Kelp!
MrStickyScissors
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When they had the humboldt flower hardener out it was kelp based. Worked great but it was too strong
Dr. Who
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Yeah it most likely came from the "plastic" (synthetic) nutrients added to the Kelp.
superbak3d
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I use this on young seedlings. Can't build a house without a solid foundation.
Dr. Who
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More synthetic - that's good though if it's what you choose! I wonder if any of those Amino's are derived from kelp?
But the Kelp contains organic amino acids.....
Kelp extract or kelp meal is a "magic" Supplement....Should be on every growers shelf!
SO many things you don't need if use kelp!
superbak3d
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This bottle is kelp and yucca extract
Dr. Who
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And other things.....Aurora "SOUL" is the synthetic line from Aurora.....It maybe how it's processed that removes the organic or it maybe something else they add.....
Yup the MSDS lists L-Arginine and L-Glycine as ingr. There went the organic out the window! Still, it is based as!
I kinda find it odd to bottle a natural product and bottle it in different bottles, concentrations and listing each for a specific use....
That's why I simply use Kelp extract and pay less money for the same tool(s)....
superbak3d
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If it makes a difference, the owner of the hydro store always gives me free shit to try.
This was one of them. It works well and I don't use much.
Dr. Who
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Somehow, not sure how. I got on somebodies "tester" list.....This was like 15 or more years ago......I still get stuff from several makers and from Grow shops....."Let us know what you think" That's how I got shit to say about almost every line out there. That's also how I found some really good stuff too!
Shhh,,,,secret! (If you call a nutrient maker or their distributer by the phone (works better then emailing) and kinda ask a lot of questions and say things like your friend uses brand X and you think this stuff is better but your strapped for cash and would REALLY like to try it and does the guy on the other side of the phone have any way he could send you a sample to prove how good his products are!)
Used to be that about 75% of them would send you a sample "kit" or like H&G did...Sent the whole line in full size quart bottles (except for the small use things - They came in the smallest available store size)....Nice way to try different things/lines!
Any way. One of the things I still get is the Humboldt line, every time they reformulate....I save them and give them to either employee's that use the line or patients that do.....They give me feedback that go's to who sent me the items......Now, if it's organic. Then I use it myself.....
GuyLeDuche
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So any specific advise on where a beginner should start with adding Kelp to the mix? Keeping in mind said beginner is as broke and ignorant as possible 
Gary Goodson
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Age old kelp at 5ml a gal as soon as you start feeding. You can literally give them this from start to finish with no problems.So any specific advise on where a beginner should start with adding Kelp to the mix? Keeping in mind said beginner is as broke and ignorant as possible
Dr. Who
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Well, find the cheapest Kelp extract you can find and I have, for years, simply added 5ml to feedings!So any specific advise on where a beginner should start with adding Kelp to the mix? Keeping in mind said beginner is as broke and ignorant as possible
If you build soils or even if you simply use bagged and store bought you should add 2 cups of Kelp MEAL to every bag of soil or 1 cup per every cubic foot.....And YES, I still use the extract with the soils having the meal in it..