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ttystikk

ttystikk

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Mohican said:
Micro-turbine electric generators can run a whole neighborhood and are in use by some smart communities.
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The efficiency of said micro turbine installations would determine how 'smart' the installation is.

Fuel cell cogeneration has the potential to productively utilize ALL the BTus from natural gas, far more than the low twenties to mid thirties of most power production in operation today.
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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ttystikk said:
The efficiency of said micro turbine installations would determine how 'smart' the installation is.

Fuel cell cogeneration has the potential to productively utilize ALL the BTus from natural gas, far more than the low twenties to mid thirties of most power production in operation today.
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Yes, and more importantly, I missed all the drama!? I probably would have had at least one witty retort. ;) Give me a holler in the morning if you can @ttystikk
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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ttystikk said:
Oh, I can help you with some ideas. Convert that 'worthless' (due to low prices) natural gas into high value electricity and sell it- or convert THAT into high quality cannabis!
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Indoor hemp facility. Pop a bunch of seeds and only keep the best of the best for cannabinoid extraction.

The well doesn't have much pressure. It is the reason the house is not on it anymore. A family member has a well on their property. The pressure dropped on it. We mounted a compressor off a Ford on a large tank to store it and bud oressure. Some of that red kneck engineering. Lol.

Its enough pressure that I could put a good size generator.

I've been looking at low rpm continuous duty lp generators.

I got a new phone. I'll get the link when I get a chance.
 
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pop22

pop22

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It makes even less sense when I'm stoned............

And I thought it would help....lol!

whitebb2727 said:
Indoor hemp facility. Pop a bunch of seeds and only keep the best of the best for cannabinoid extraction.

The well doesn't have much pressure. It is the reason the house is not on it anymore. A family member has a well on their property. The pressure dropped on it. We mounted a compressor off a Ford on a large tank to store it and bud oressure. Some of that red kneck engineering. Lol.

Its enough pressure that I could put a good size generator.

I've been looking at low rpm continuous duty lp generators.

I got a new phone. I'll get the link when I get a chance.
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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whitebb2727 said:
Indoor hemp facility. Pop a bunch of seeds and only keep the best of the best for cannabinoid extraction.

The well doesn't have much pressure. It is the reason the house is not on it anymore. A family member has a well on their property. The pressure dropped on it. We mounted a compressor off a Ford on a large tank to store it and bud oressure. Some of that red kneck engineering. Lol.

Its enough pressure that I could put a good size generator.

I've been looking at low rpm continuous duty lp generators.

I got a new phone. I'll get the link when I get a chance.
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Call Schlumberger and see about getting it fracked. That's how you can get more life from old wellheads.

Now, it occurs to me that since you're the owner of said well, you've already done some investigating along those lines and there's a reason you aren't going forward. I'm curious about what those reasons might be, if I'm not intruding?
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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ttystikk said:
Call Schlumberger and see about getting it fracked. That's how you can get more life from old wellheads.

Now, it occurs to me that since you're the owner of said well, you've already done some investigating along those lines and there's a reason you aren't going forward. I'm curious about what those reasons might be, if I'm not intruding?
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There is a underground water source here. Very good water. I will not have it fracked..

Its is a new place. You know how it is. Three years here and I'm still getting the property the way I want it. To many pokers in the fire.
 
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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whitebb2727 said:
There is a underground water source here. Very good water. I will not have it fracked..

Its is a new place. You know how it is. Three years here and I'm still getting the property the wag I want it. To many pokers in the fire.
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They can case the well with cement at the level of the water and work beneath, it's in fact the most common scenario at any site. They are far better at it now than in the past, so you'd be fortunate to be the beneficiary of the industry's learning curve. None of the above should be construed to sound like I'm second guessing your decision.

I'd want to have the water tested, because the well has already been drilled and such damage in terms of natural gas contamination may already have occurred. None of this is cheap, of course, but at least testing the water should be affordable, nevermind important for peace of mind!
 
Vnsmkr

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ttystikk said:
They can case the well with cement at the level of the water and work beneath, it's in fact the most common scenario at any site. They are far better at it now than in the past, so you'd be fortunate to be the beneficiary of the industry's learning curve. None of the above should be construed to sound like I'm second guessing your decision.

I'd want to have the water tested, because the well has already been drilled and such damage in terms of natural gas contamination may already have occurred. None of this is cheap, of course, but at least testing the water should be affordable, nevermind important for peace of mind!
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Any areas within the well which have water intrusive/bearing zones are cased and/or cemented then pressure tested....
 
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Vnsmkr

Vnsmkr

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I know a little :) about drilling though been involved in enhancing oil and gas production for 20+ yrs. My father told me perhaps I should change my business direction since oil and gas may go away soon. I laughed first and then said pop are you fucking serious? Maybe in the next 100 years things stave off, but this design currently employs oil and gas and/or its byproducts for practically everything we use in daily life, and thats no 100, 1000, 10000, 100000 products....its a number which far exceeds any of these. I dont agree with the way oil and gas companies rape the land, other countries land, etc but its fed myself and my family so its been a rock (until I get my happy farm going :)).
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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ttystikk said:
They can case the well with cement at the level of the water and work beneath, it's in fact the most common scenario at any site. They are far better at it now than in the past, so you'd be fortunate to be the beneficiary of the industry's learning curve. None of the above should be construed to sound like I'm second guessing your decision.

I'd want to have the water tested, because the well has already been drilled and such damage in terms of natural gas contamination may already have occurred. None of this is cheap, of course, but at least testing the water should be affordable, nevermind important for peace of mind!
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It's OK. I respect your opinion. I've asked you for advice in private.

I may just do that. It wouldn't hurt anything to have it looked at.

I don't think the water is bad. I've used water that is from the water table and the had well. I'm sure it is the same source. The sump pump is less than 100 feet from the well. I've used the water for an aquarium. That doesn't mean the water is safe but it is a good sign.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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whitebb2727 said:
It's OK. I respect your opinion. I've asked you for advice in private.

I may just do that. It wouldn't hurt anything to have it looked at.

I don't think the water is bad. I've used water that is from the water table and the had well. I'm sure it is the same source. The sump pump is less than 100 feet from the well. I've used the water for an aquarium. That doesn't mean the water is safe but it is a good sign.
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I think you're one lucky son of a gun; acreage, good groundwater AND natural gas production onsite? Sheesh! Where do I find some?!
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Vnsmkr said:
I know a little :) about drilling though been involved in enhancing oil and gas production for 20+ yrs. My father told me perhaps I should change my business direction since oil and gas may go away soon. I laughed first and then said pop are you fucking serious? Maybe in the next 100 years things stave off, but this design currently employs oil and gas and/or its byproducts for practically everything we use in daily life, and thats no 100, 1000, 10000, 100000 products....its a number which far exceeds any of these. I dont agree with the way oil and gas companies rape the land, other countries land, etc but its fed myself and my family so its been a rock (until I get my happy farm going :)).
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@whitebb2727 I'd be asking @Vnsmkr's advice about anything drilling related from here on out, lol I know I'm going to!
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Vnsmkr said:
I know a little :) about drilling though been involved in enhancing oil and gas production for 20+ yrs. My father told me perhaps I should change my business direction since oil and gas may go away soon. I laughed first and then said pop are you fucking serious? Maybe in the next 100 years things stave off, but this design currently employs oil and gas and/or its byproducts for practically everything we use in daily life, and thats no 100, 1000, 10000, 100000 products....its a number which far exceeds any of these. I dont agree with the way oil and gas companies rape the land, other countries land, etc but its fed myself and my family so its been a rock (until I get my happy farm going :)).
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We may switch from coal and tar sands towards sweet crude and natural gas, but there's just no fucking way modern society is going to quit using and needing fossil fuels and hydrocarbon feedstock for industrial production. It's a fundamental must have building block of modern technology just like gold, iron or aluminum.

Tires, cellphone cases, even the epsom salt in your nutes- nevermind most of the rest of those hydroponic nutrient salts in those bottles- came from a chemical industry that runs on fossil fuel for both energy and chemical inputs.

Just riffing here, it's important for me to understand how the modern world works in order to effect change, especially if one would endeavor to change it for the 'better'.
 
Vnsmkr

Vnsmkr

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ttystikk said:
We may switch from coal and tar sands towards sweet crude and natural gas, but there's just no fucking way modern society is going to quit using and needing fossil fuels and hydrocarbon feedstock for industrial production. It's a fundamental must have building block of modern technology just like gold, iron or aluminum.

Tires, cellphone cases, even the epsom salt in your nutes- nevermind most of the rest of those hydroponic nutrient salts in those bottles- came from a chemical industry that runs on fossil fuel for both energy and chemical inputs.

Just riffing here, it's important for me to understand how the modern world works in order to effect change, especially if one would endeavor to change it for the 'better'.
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In short, fuck yes AND the #1 reason it won't change any time soon. It is making some people far too much money.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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whitebb2727 said:
Will do. Thank you.


Appalachia.
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A man's got to know his limitations. In my case, my network of people who are really good at different shit is among my most valuable possessions. In other words, I sound like a know it all only because I constantly consult those who actually do, lol

I'm pretty partial to these here northern Colorado Rockies, myself, so I know how you feel. I need to get me a patch up in the bumps here, real soon.
 
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