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calicat

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Can you describe what you mean by transformer Calicat?
If the Appy manifests even on overall expressions that are mother cut leaners, the Appy has a tendency to "transform" the whole cross into something wild and unique. You will understand its cannamagic once you start to run Appy crosses. Try running crosses that you are familiar with a mother cut.

Btw... look @kmog33 pictures of his testers involving Bubba Kush. That is a strong Bubba Kush expression. Fat azz blunted fan leaves. Congested structure. https://www.rollitup.org/t/bodhi-seeds.518143/page-1001#post-12485335

Look @mucha_mota picture of Sky Lotus on the mobile scrog https://www.rollitup.org/t/bodhi-seeds.518143/page-1002#post-12486957. That is a Snow Lotus frame. Has serrated fan leaves. If it was erect the terminal ends stack and there is a big gap of nodes from medial to terminal end. Open structure.
 
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Al Yamoni

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That's a god damn shame. They really getting over on folks man I don't like it one bit. People work hard for they bread however it comes and to know there are banks out here preying on people with rare genetics they supposedly have is insane. Sorry they conned you and Amos but I would like to see them explain this. I mean I don't get how you can say you have x amount and many people are able to purchase that same amount on different occasions. I'm glad I never spent money with them they almost got me last year on a few things.
I sent them a message after they said that they would not refund me and they did not reply, but then closed the ticket.. Haha. Fuck em, I'll be there martyr... I'm on the internet enough, I guess I can focus some of my time steering people away from there and to places like midweeksong for singles and shoe and glg for stateside orders... It's finally a true bean buyers market and we will pick and choose the companies that get their hands on our dough.. @thebonzaseedbank , doesn't even take good care of the bunk ass beans that they have, the bullshit they send out doesn't even germ most of the time... This is going to be fun for me...
 

Al Yamoni

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If the Appy manifests even on overall expressions that are mother cut leaners, the Appy has a tendency to "transform" the whole cross into something wild and unique. You will understand its cannamagic once you start to run Appy crosses. Try running crosses that you are familiar with a mother cut.

Btw... look @kmog33 pictures of his testers involving Bubba Kush. That is a strong Bubba Kush expression. Fat azz blunted fan leaves. Congested structure. https://www.rollitup.org/t/bodhi-seeds.518143/page-1001#post-12485335

Look @mucha_mota picture of Sky Lotus on the mobile scrog https://www.rollitup.org/t/bodhi-seeds.518143/page-1002#post-12486957. That is a Snow Lotus frame. Has serrated fan leaves. If it was erect the terminal ends stack and there is a big gap of nodes from medial to terminal end. Open structure.
Thanks calicat! very informative as usual. DOn't know what we'd do without you. <3
I second that one, Urb.
 

ShyGuru

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I'll share my thoughts on bonza. Placed my first ever seed order with them last year for four strains in total, fs c-99, pyramid Tutankhamen, SCS tangerine power, and fs red purps. Seeds arrived in about three weeks and upon inspection contained mostly 2nd rate seeds being mostly tan or whitish in color, with the exception of tangerine power which were plump healthy and tiger stripes. So far I've had several duds that didn't pop, including one of the purty tangerine power seeds. Of the seeds that have popped I've grown out c-99 and Tut which came out healthy frosty and matched their descriptions. Having never tried c-99 before I can't say whether this was it or not but it was sweet and the tut was stinky smelling of machine oil. I've since switched to bodhi thru glg and big shoe and I couldn't be happier.
 

D_Urbmon

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I sent them a message after they said that they would not refund me and they did not reply, but then closed the ticket.. Haha. Fuck em, I'll be there martyr... I'm on the internet enough, I guess I can focus some of my time steering people away from there and to places like midweeksong for singles and shoe and glg for stateside orders... It's finally a true bean buyers market and we will pick and choose the companies that get their hands on our dough.. @thebonzaseedbank , doesn't even take good care of the bunk ass beans that they have, the bullshit they send out doesn't even germ most of the time... This is going to be fun for me...
Great attitude Al. Way to take it in stride.
 

Al Yamoni

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Sadly this won't even close to destroy their business. Only among this small group people will not order. There are thousands of unsuspecting newbs and hobby growers out there who will never know the difference. These are the kind of people the scammers and counterfeit seed selling seedbanks prey upon.]

The kind of person who knows no difference between the probably 15 different White Widow's offered there and the real deal Black Widow from Mr. Nice.
Don't I know it brother.
 

Al Yamoni

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Me, too. Despite all the evidence, I still hold [somewhat] to the notion that it makes zero sense to run a scam and risk forever losing your business for the sake of $50, which is what I spent after adding the 3 Lotus Larrys. @Al Yamoni: I don't recall that you said you ordered more than the 2 dubious LCs - if not, then they 'conned' you for $20. How much sense does this make? Would this then mean that the Larrys, and all Bodhi $9.00 singles are fakes?

Wouldn't it make more sense to send out $2,50 Lemon Kush beans for $20 DNA Lemon OG, for instance? [Or.......maybe they do ? :shock: ]

So, yeah....it's been a couple of days since whatever-her-name-is said she would get the 'appropriate' to come to RIU and address the charges. Me thinks she needs a reminder. :-D

EDIT - I'll just copy this post, and forward it along, with 'warmest wishes' to 'ol what's-her-name'.
The got $14...
 

akhiymjames

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Amos, and Al, if they told Amos that they made a mistake and only really had 2 beans to start with. But then told Al, sorry we can't cancel your order it has already been shipped. Isn't that catching them in a lie because that proves they supposedly had 4 since they shipped 2 to each. If they weren't going to ship those 2 beans to Al because they were out of stock they should have to send him a e-mail notice stating that before shipping I would think. So if I were you Amos I would ask them how this is possible. I can tell you I will NEVER order from them. People trying to further their business by practices like this ought to go back to business school and learn in the end bad customer service and screwing people over will run your company in the ground you idiots.

And about the Fem beans, you may very well be right I really don't know. Just going off what I have read and what made sense to me. But I wouldn't write them off just because of one bad experience. If it happened a few different times from different genetics is when I would write them off. I know I have read quite a bit in the past on others making their own Fem beans and never having issues with herms after countless crosses. Maybe you just got really unlucky. I know I have grown out probably over 100 Fem seeds over the years and I have never once had a hermie. That is from a lot of different breeders on Attitude over the years. There was also many times I put those plants through hell, especially in the summer with sometimes temperatures staying above 110 for hours. I only ever had plants throw nanners twice. Once was a Blue Kush from Dinafem that was in that 110 room - it didn't hermie and turned out just fine. Ended up with about 12 seeds out of it though. The other was the CSI Humboldt Purple Dogbud (Urkle x Chem91) that my buddy finished which through late nanners when it was taken about 3 weeks later then it should have been. They were sterile though, and none of the other 5 Purple Dogbuds had any. Maybe I have just gotten lucky, I don't know. But people finding herms all the time have to be dealing with bad genetics to start with or bad breeders/both I'd say. I guess a year or so from now I will be able to comment a little further on this with my own personal testing with Femming some Goji, Dream Lotus, Mothers Milk etc for myself and growing a few out. And will for sure be doing the C99 x Dream Lotus cross for myself that I think will be killer.

One last thing - Anyone have any tips for posting pics securely? I am guessing it would be smart to get an old school digital camera instead of using your phone or anything like that. Which can be had fairly cheap anymore. But what about after that, does even a digital camera leave stuff on the image that needs to be deleted? And where should it be uploaded to etc. I would like to start sharing witth you guys since you all share so much. Thanks
It's mostly bad breeding when it comes to herms with fems. They just reverse and chuck and that's not good. Don't really test them and just send them out to the mass public just because they put two elites together. They're chucking with hermie tendency strains already so hitting 20 different moms island just selling them causes a herm fest. There are good gem breeders tho and those should be the only ones people mess with like CSI Humboldt.

I use an image sharing site imgur it's like photobucket you upload the pic it's give you a bb code to post the pic here. All my pic are private there so it doesn't hit he open web but I use my phone a lot too to post pics. Geotag is turned off and I always upload them to imgur too so they get deleted after being uploaded there. Not harping on anyone about trying to be safe but posting pics isn't as serious as people make it. This forum is not like IG or Twitter where the police are watching stuff on that. And I'm sure your not running a whole house grow or anything like that so no reason for them to be watching anything you do. Somebody recently told me about some software they use to post pics and stuff but my time is already limited so I can't use that and I'm small time and only a select few people know what I do so I have nothing to worry about. And if they did busy me I wouldn't care anyways my state laws ain't shit really lol I'll those 8 months standing on my head but yea I hope you find something that's good for you to use so you can post pics. You got lots of stuff and would contribute some great pics of stuff to this thread for everyone.
 

futant

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Well said futant. That was always my biggest concern. Also one aspect which you forgot to mention is that the unstable genetics can also slip out into the world through bagseeds without the grower even knowing and having chance to pass the results out without full disclosure.

p.s. What is nicking and FFI? I'd be curious to know any breeding tips or tricks for future endeavors.
Nicking and FFI are principles in the breeding of performance animals. Books have been written on both (FFI stands for female family inbreeding btw).
 

Amos Otis

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And about the Fem beans, you may very well be right I really don't know.
Here's a guy with an opinion - one of the main cats at Breeder's Boutique posted this today:

Some times a pheno is so special and rare the only thing to get it from clone to seed is femming it. We have loads of reg beans at various stages of refinement. a lot of people look for throwback genes.
 
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