Maximizing Grow Space/Yield

T.C. Bosby

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I'm in the final stages of setting up my tent (clones come in next week) and could use some input. I'm trying to figure out the best way to use my 3' x '3 x 6'11 tent. I'm not knowledgeable enough to go with a SOG or true Vertical growing, so those options are off the list. I'm also wanting to keep my plant limit "legal" with my rec.

I'm debating between a 4 plant SCROG or growing 6 trees. Any thoughts or opinion on the matter? If it plays into the decision making, I am going to be growing OG Kush and I have a 1000W HID (dimmable, air cooled reflector) that I plan on running at 600W.

As always, thank you everyone!
 

Gquebed

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Then you dont have room or enough light to grow "trees". Sorry, but how is this not obvious?
 

innerG

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Spread those plants out your footprint can't be that small at that height
Yeah they're just transitioning to flower, this weekend I plan on lollipopping and moving them. Right now I have 2 pots each in a rectangular tray so I can't move them out more. I'm going to just put the 3 gallon ones in separate round trays. The 5gal containers are squares so it's hard to find good trays locally.

And they might not be 'trees' by some's definition, but you can do nice stuff in a 3x3 with that much light:
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innerG

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Your veg times are typically longer in a scrog, and your plants generally aren't as mobile/accessible, so keep that in mind if you go that route. Many people get good yields that way.
 
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Cyrus420

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If you're not sure about Scrog I would simply stick to filling my tent with topped and super cropped plants. In a 3x3 space with a 1000W HID, assuming temperatures are under control, you could probably do a real nice grow with six plants so long as you train them properly.
 

Cyrus420

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Then you dont have room or enough light to grow "trees". Sorry, but how is this not obvious?
He has a 3x3 and a 1000W HID, what are you talking about?

He has all he needs to grow...unless you think 3x3 and 1000W just ain't enough.
 

drewby

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,if you are growing not rushing,,you will go buy the strain of the plant,,, it's size will tell you when your plant is ready,,,, Biggest mistake I see is people tend to rush,,give it time let the plant become the strong mean plant it can be,,,,,,here is the math side,,works everytime,,,days can vary largly on the grow site strain and conditions,,the math won't change
Indica Strains
Most pure indica strains slow their vertical growth very quickly once switched to a 12/12 light cycle. It’s not uncommon for an indica strain to add only 25% to 50% to its total height after switching to a 12 hour light cycle. Most of this additional growth will take place in the first week or two of flowering. If an indica plant is switched to flowering when it is 12 inches tall it can be expected to finish flowering at about 18 inches, give or take. That math is pretty consistent, so a 2 foot tall indica will likely finish flowering around 3 feet tall.

Here is the equation for indica strains. The vegged plant height (V) multiplied by 1.5 equals the plant height at harvest (H) or 1.5V = H

Sativa Strains
Pure sativa strains are much more difficult to grow indoors and are becoming increasingly rare in general. I don’t recommend them for novice indoor growers for several reasons. What is important for this topic is that their growth after being switched to a 12/12 light cycle is unpredictable. Pure sativas often continue to produce significant vertical vegetative growth many weeks into the flowering cycle. Sativas often double in size while flowering, and in some cases, will finish at three times the height they were at when the light cycle was switched. A 12 inch plant switched to the 12/12 light cycle could end up as tall as 36 inches, sometimes even taller. This additional vertical growth can quickly become a problem in a normal grow room. I’ve seen growers flower sativas at 2 feet tall only to end up with 6 foot plants at harvest. Most grow rooms just can’t accommodate plants this tall, not to mention some other real problems with tall marijuana plants.

Here is the equation for sativa strains. The vegged plant height (V) multiplied by 2.5 equals the plant height at harvest (H) or 2.5V = H.

Hybrid Strains
Hybrid cannabis strains are crossbreeds of various sativa and indica plants that have been bred selectively to promote specific characteristics. Some hybrids strains grow similar to sativas, other grow more like indicas. Most of the strains sold by seed and clone vendors are some form of hybrid. Find out as much about the strain as possible so you can guess how much vertical growth to expect after the flowering cycle beings. As a general rule, leave enough room for the plants to double in size. Once you are familiar with the strain you can let them grow a bit taller if there is room. Don’t forget, at a certain point, taller is not better.

Here is the equation for hybrid strains. The vegged plant height (V) multiplied by 2 equals the plant height at harvest (H) or 2V = H.


So if you go buy what you are growing there will be a perfect time to flower that type of plant or particular strain,,,Now Grow room size can dictate,,, how big you grow it,,,, but size not days will still let you know when to make the change so they can flower and still fit in there space,,,many people say it is this many days but if you are growing to reach the potential of the plant,,It will be size and overall health that tell you when,,,,This will not be what you do for a SOG style grow or some other grows ,,the Mathematical formula will always work,,,as some plants grow faster or may develope quicker just like people so time is what I give I want my plants to be potent and healthy,,,the size of the plant will mean the difference between grams,, OZ or Pnds
 

Gquebed

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He has a 3x3 and a 1000W HID, what are you talking about?

He has all he needs to grow...unless you think 3x3 and 1000W just ain't enough.
3x3 and 6.5 feet high i believe. So... take 2 ft away from that, for just a min distance from canopy plus some for the distance beteween the light and tent top, and youre left with 4.5 ft of total hieght of the plant... thats no tree.... thats a regular plant to me. I have 8 of those 4.5 footers going right now...they be shrubs... yo.
 

Cyrus420

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3x3 and 6.5 feet high i believe. So... take 2 ft away from that, for just a min distance from canopy plus some for the distance beteween the light and tent top, and youre left with 4.5 ft of total hieght of the plant... thats no tree.... thats a regular plant to me. I have 8 of those 4.5 footers going right now...they be shrubs... yo.
I was under the impression trees was just another word colloquially used for cannabis. Technically speaking none of your plants are trees either.
 

Budley Doright

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So not a mathematician but where did your data for the 1.5x for an indica, 2.5x for sativa, etc. come from? The math sometimes does lie if your doing statistical math, albeit only 2% out of thirty samples lol. Please note I failed statistics. With a three by three space waiting for the plants to be all they can be will lead to a jungle of unruly bushes lol. I know this from experience :(. I tend to cram 4-6 plants in a 4x4 area and to say training will help is great but there is typically no room to train, the whole thing is filled to the max. Yes some strains have stayed compact but most do not and lots of my hybrids triple in size over the flowering period.
 

Budley Doright

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3x3 and 6.5 feet high i believe. So... take 2 ft away from that, for just a min distance from canopy plus some for the distance beteween the light and tent top, and youre left with 4.5 ft of total hieght of the plant... thats no tree.... thats a regular plant to me. I have 8 of those 4.5 footers going right now...they be shrubs... yo.
Plus the pot height so another 12" say. Height is my enemy and I have a 7' ceiling but I grow in totes that are 20" high :(. Also my lights have to be appr. 12" down from ceiling with hoods and brackets. For me it comes down to the wire almost every grow :(.
 
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