EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stones Mag, 2010. A classic and a good read.

The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money. In fact, the history of the recent financial crisis, which doubles as a history of the rapid decline and fall of the suddenly swindled dry American empire, reads like a Who's Who of Goldman Sachs graduates.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405#ixzz45vIEDX6u
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Quite rightly. They bought the power to steal from us and our children from our own representatives and for some crazy reason We the People haven't hanged them all for it yet.

Which is why I keep saying that I don't see anyone in this society demanding our government to live up to the entire Bill of Rights, all the time, instead of just when they feel like making a show.

If no one fights for freedom, it doesn't survive. Americans apparently forgot how to generations ago, how else to explain the blatant corruption of our times?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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londonfog said:
My comment was to show that people have and will vote for Hillary. Actually more people prefer to vote for Hillary.
Don't go full BernieCraZy like the other fruitloops
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I can come up with zero reasons to vote for Ms Clinton. I'm looking for it but can't find a way to explain this as anything other than a vote against the GOP nutjob candidate of choice.

So, explain, what is a "BernieCraZy"? What's crazy about Bernie's platform?
 
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ChesusRice

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Fogdog said:
I can come up with zero reasons to vote for Ms Clinton. I'm looking for it but can't find a way to explain this as anything other than a vote against the GOP nutjob candidate of choice.

So, explain, what is a "BernieCraZy"? What's crazy about Bernie's platform?
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Sanders doesn't make it, you voting for Clinton?
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
Polls from yesterday (4-14)
The former secretary of state boasts a 17 point lead over Sanders, 57 percent to his 40 percent, according to an NBC/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll released on Thursday. That's a small increase over a poll the group released earlier this week showing Clinton with a 14-point edge over the Vermont senator.

Thursday’s poll finds that Clinton — who was a New York senator prior to becoming secretary of state — leads with women (60 percent to 37 percent), men (53 percent to 44 percent), non-whites (58 percent to 39 percent), and people ages 45 and older (67 percent to 29 percent).

Sanders leads with people under 45 (55 percent to 42 percent) and people who consider themselves “very liberal” (53 percent to 46 percent).

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/clintons-lead-widens-in-new-york-221976#ixzz45vhcYta5

Bernie needs to win and by the kind of margin Clinton holds in this recent poll. Not saying it can't be done but it doesn't look good.
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Since when are polls correct?

Since when do we worry before all the states vote?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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schuylaar said:
Since when are polls correct?

Since when do we worry before all the states vote?
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I'm pretty sure you'd be trumpeting the news if B were leading in the polls. Now you claim disinterest. Too funny that.

Bernie has to do more than just win anymore. Bernie's biggest moments were in the past, when as predicted by the polls he lost Ohio big time. Since then he had to crush it and its not happening. A big loss in NY would make his candidacy all but impossible. Even a close win would be a loss as far as improving the delegate count. I don't live there and am just an interested observer.

Don't like the poll result? Whistling past the graveyard?
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Fogdog said:
I'm pretty sure you'd be trumpeting the news if B were leading in the polls. Now you claim disinterest. Too funny that.

Bernie has to do more than just win anymore. Bernie's biggest moments were in the past, when as predicted by the polls he lost Ohio big time. Since then he had to crush it and its not happening. A big loss in NY would make his candidacy all but impossible. Even a close win would be a loss as far as improving the delegate count. I don't live there and am just an interested observer.

Don't like the poll result? Whistling past the graveyard?
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or you can be BernieCrazy and say he will win regardless of anything
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
I'm pretty sure you'd be trumpeting the news if B were leading in the polls. Now you claim disinterest. Too funny that.

Bernie has to do more than just win anymore. Bernie's biggest moments were in the past, when as predicted by the polls he lost Ohio big time. Since then he had to crush it and its not happening. A big loss in NY would make his candidacy all but impossible. Even a close win would be a loss as far as improving the delegate count. I don't live there and am just an interested observer.

Don't like the poll result? Whistling past the graveyard?
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I'm a 'wait and see' kind of person..I like to have all the data.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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londonfog said:
because it appears Bernie wants retirement money
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Come on dude, you aren't that ignorant are you? Well maybe so. The use of campaign funds for retirement purposes ended decades ago.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/leftover-campaign-funds/

Q: What happens to a candidate’s leftover campaign funds when he or she drops out of the race?

A: The big rule is: no personal use.

FULL QUESTION

Do candidates for elected office keep donations to their campaigns for personal use after they lose or drop out? Or do those donations have to go into a greater party fund?

FULL ANSWER

As Bob Biersack from the Federal Election Commission points out, most candidates don’t have much left over to begin with. Campaigning is expensive, and “leftover” money gets used for bills and debts first, including expenses incurred while winding down an abandoned campaign or a lost political office.

Candidates do sometimes end up with surplus funds, though, particularly if they’re incumbent members of Congress who decide not to run for another term. State and local governments have their own rules, but those running for federal office — including presidential candidates — must abide by strict FEC guidelines when it comes to their extra campaign money. They can donate an unlimited amount to a charity or political party. They can also, within limits, make contributions directly to other candidates. A campaign committee can give up to $2000 per election to each candidate. If the committee is converted into a political action committee, the limit jumps to $5000 – but to be established as a PAC, the committee would have to be in existence for six months, receive contributions from 50 donors, and make contributions to five recipients.

What candidates can’t do with leftover money is use it for personal expenses. Retiring federal lawmakers used to be able to pocket extra cash and use it for cars, vacations, clothes, pet grooming, whatever — but that changed in 1989 with the passage of the Ethics Reform Act.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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londonfog said:
not all...just the crazy ones
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You sound like Nitro only with a love for an old woman instead of an old man.

OK, so make a pitch for Clinton. You are the only person here that is all in for the Hill Pill. I'm not fully against her but she doesn't seem to be the best choice to me. Why is she the best choice as far as you are concerned.
 
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